Let us not forget the classical hip hop contribution of Too Short. I'm looking for Freaky tales album, The cusswords album and, the album with Ice Cube on it - the one with Short but Funky. I may be out of line for the purpous of this board but, when there is a concert with the pioneers of hip hop or the media talks about "the pioneers of hip hop" is it just me or is Short not ever mentioned among them.