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I'm bringing my thread posted on another forum.
I wanted to share this interview with you guys.
It's my theory that who ever controls money, controls the world....
The Federal Reserve and those who run it, run everything else....

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The following is a conversation with Mr. Ron Supinski of the Public Information Department of the San Francisco, Federal Reserve Bank. This is an account of that conversation reconstructed to the best of my ability from notes taken during the conversation on October 8, 1992.

CALLER - Mr. Supinski, does my country own the Federal Reserve System?

MR. SUPINSKI - We are an agency of the government.

CALLER - That's not my question. Is it owned by my country?

MR. SUPINSKI - It is an agency of the government created by congress.

CALLER - Is the Federal Reserve a Corporation?

MR. SUPINSKI - Yes

CALLER - Does my government own any of the stock in the Federal Reserve?

MR. SUPINSKI - No, it is owned by the member banks.

CALLER - Are the member banks private corporations?

MR. SUPINSKI - Yes

CALLER - Are Federal Reserve Notes backed by anything?

MR. SUPINSKI -Yes, by the assets of the Federal Reserve but, primarily by the power of congress to lay tax on the people.

CALLER - Did you say, by the power to collect taxes is what backs Federal Reserve Notes?

MR. SUPINSKI - Yes

CALLER - What are the total assets of the Federal Reserve?

MR. SUPINSKI - The San Francisco Bank has $36 Billion in assets.

CALLER - What are these assets comprised of?

MR. SUPINSKI - Gold, the Federal Reserve Bank itself and government securities.

CALLER - What value does the Federal Reserve Bank carry gold per oz. on their books?

MR. SUPINSKI - I don't have that information but the San Francisco Bank has $1.6 billion in gold.

CALLER - Are you saying the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco has $1.6 billion in gold, the bank itself and the balance of the assets is government securities?

MR. SUPINSKI - Yes.

CALLER - Where does the Federal Reserve get Federal Reserve Notes from?

MR. SUPINSKI - They are authorized by the Treasury.

CALLER - How much does the Federal Reserve pay for a $10 Federal Reserve Note?

MR. SUPINSKI - Fifty to seventy cents.

CALLER - How much do they pay for a $100.00 Federal Reserve Note?

MR. SUPINSKI - The same fifty to seventy cents.

CALLER - To pay only fifty cents for a $100.00 is a tremendous gain, isn't it?

MR. SUPINSKI - Yes

CALLER - According to the U.S. Treasury, the Federal Reserve pays $20.60 per 1,000 denomination or a little over two cents for a $100.00 bill, is that correct?

MR. SUPINSKI - That is probably close.

CALLER - Doesn't the Federal Reserve use the Federal Reserve Notes that cost about two cents each to purchase U.S. Bonds from the government?

MR. SUPINSKI - Yes, but there is more to it than that.

CALLER - Basically, that is what happens?

MR. SUPINSKI - Yes, basically you are correct.

CALLER - How many Federal Reserve Notes are in circulation?

MR. SUPINSKI - $263 billion and we can only account for a small percentage.

CALLER - Where did they go?

MR. SUPINSKI - Peoples mattress, buried in their back yards and illegal drug money.

CALLER - Since the debt is payable in Federal Reserve Notes, how can the $4 trillion national debt be paid-off with the total Federal Reserve Notes in circulation?

MR. SUPINSKI - I don't know.

CALLER - If the Federal Government would collect every Federal Reserve Note in circulation would it be mathematically possible to pay the $4 trillion national debt?

MR. SUPINSKI - No

CALLER - Am I correct when I say, $1 deposited in a member bank $8 can be lent out through Fractional Reserve Policy?

MR. SUPINSKI - About $7.

CALLER - Correct me if I am wrong but, $7 of additional Federal Reserve Notes were never put in circulation. But, for lack of better words were "created out of thin air " in the form of credits and the two cents per denomination were not paid either. In other words, the Federal Reserve Notes were not physically printed but, in reality were created by a journal entry and lent at interest. Is that correct?

MR. SUPINSKI - Yes

CALLER - Is that the reason there are only $263 billion Federal Reserve Notes in circulation?

MR. SUPINSKI - That is part of the reason.

CALLER - Am I mistaking that when the Federal Reserve Act was passed (on Christmas Eve) in 1913, it transferred the power to coin and issue our nations money and to regulate the value thereof from Congress to a Private corporation. And my country now borrows what should be our own money from the Federal Reserve (a private corporation) plus interest. Is that correct and the debt can never be paid off under the current money system of country?

MR. SUPINSKI - Basically, yes.

CALLER - I smell a rat, do you?

MR. SUPINSKI - I am sorry, I can't answer that, I work here.

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CALLER - Has the Federal Reserve ever been independently audited?

MR. SUPINSKI - We are audited.

CALLER - Why is there a current House Resolution 1486 calling for a complete audit of the Federal Reserve by the G.A.O. and why is the Federal Reserve resisting?

MR. SUPINSKI - I don't know.

CALLER - Does the Federal Reserve regulate the value of Federal Reserve Notes and interest rates?

MR. SUPINSKI - Yes

CALLER - Explain how the Federal Reserve System can be Constitutional if, only the Congress of the U.S., which comprises of the Senate and the House of Representatives has the power to coin and issue our money supply and regulate the value thereof? [Article 1 Section 1 and Section 8] Nowhere, in the Constitution does it give Congress the power or authority to transfer any powers granted under the Constitution to a private corporation or, does it?

MR. SUPINSKI - I am not an expert on constitutional law. I can refer you to our legal department.

CALLER - I can tell you I have read the Constitution. It does NOT provide that any power granted can be transferred to a private corporation. Doesn't it specifically state, all other powers not granted are reserved to the States and to the citizens? Does that mean to a private corporation?

MR. SUPINSKI - I don't think so, but we were created by Congress.

CALLER - Would you agree it is our country and it should be our money as provided by our Constitution?

MR. SUPINSKI - I understand what you are saying.

CALLER - Why should we borrow our own money from a private consortium of bankers? Isn't this why we had a revolution, created a separate sovereign nation and a Bill of Rights?

MR. SUPINSKI - (Declined to answer).

CALLER - Has the Federal Reserve ever been declared constitutional by the Supreme Court?

MR. SUPINSKI - I believe there has been court cases on the matter.

CALLER - Have they been Supreme Court Cases?

MR. SUPINSKI - I think so, but I am not sure.

CALLER - Didn't the Supreme Court declare unanimously in A.L.A. Schechter Poultry Corp. vs. U.S. and Carter vs. Carter Coal Co. the corporative-state arrangement an unconstitutional delegation of legislative power? ["The power conferred is the power to regulate. This is legislative delegation in its most obnoxious form; for it is not even delegation to an official or an official body, presumptively disinterested, but to private persons." Carter vs. Carter Coal Co.]

MR. SUPINSKI - I don't know, I can refer you to our legal department.

CALLER - Isn't the current money system a house of cards that must fall because, the debt can mathematically never be paid-off?

MR. SUPINSKI - It appears that way. I can tell you have been looking into this matter and are very knowledgeable. However, we do have a solution.

CALLER - What is the solution?

MR. SUPINSKI - The Debit Card.

CALLER - Do you mean under the E.F.T. Act (Electronic Funds Transfer)? Isn't that very frightening, when one considers the capabilities of computers? It would provide the government and all it's agencies, including the Federal Reserve such information as: You went to the gas station @ 2:30 and bought $10.00 of unleaded gas @ $1.41 per gallon and then you went to the grocery store @ 2:58 and bought bread, lunch meat and milk for $12.32 and then went to the drug store @ 3:30 and bought cold medicine for $5.62. In other words, they would know where we go, when we went, how much we paid, how much the merchant paid and how much profit he made. Under the E.F.T. they will literally know everything about us. Isn't that kind of scary?

MR. SUPINSKI - Yes, it makes you wonder.

CALLER - I smell a GIANT RAT that has overthrown my constitution. Aren't we paying tribute in the form of income taxes to a consortium of private bankers?

MR. SUPINSKI - I can't call it tribute, it is interest.

CALLER - Haven't all elected officials taken an oath of office to preserve and defend the Constitution from enemies both foreign and domestic? Isn't the Federal Reserve a domestic enemy?

MR. SUPINSKI - I can't say that.

CALLER - Our elected officials and members of the Federal Reserve are guilty of aiding and abetting the overthrowing of my Constitution and that is treason. Isn't the punishment of treason death?

MR. SUPINSKI - I believe so.

CALLER - Thank you for your time and information and if I may say so, I think you should take the necessary steps to protect you and your family and withdraw your money from the banks before the collapse, I am.

MR. SUPINSKI - It doesn't look good.

CALLER - May God have mercy on the souls who are behind this unconstitutional and criminal act called the Federal Reserve. When the ALMIGHTY MASS awakens to this giant hoax, they will not take it with a grain of salt. It has been a pleasure talking to you and I thank you for your time. I hope you will take my advice before it does collapse.

MR. SUPINSKI - Unfortunately, it does not look good.

CALLER - Have a good day and thanks for your time.

MR. SUPINSKI - Thanks for calling.

If the reader has any doubts to the validity of this conversation, call your nearest Federal Reserve Bank, YOU KNOW THE QUESTIONS TO ASK! You won't find them listed under the Federal Government. They are in the white pages, along with Federal Express, Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. (FDIC), and any other business. Find out for yourself if all this is true. And then, go to your local law library and look up the case of Lewis vs. U.S., case #80-5905, 9th Circuit, June 24, 1982. It reads in part: "Examining the organization and function of the Federal Reserve Banks and applying the relevant factors, we conclude that the federal reserve are NOT federal instrumentalities . . . but are independent and privately owned and controlled corporations . . . federal reserve banks are listed neither as `wholly owned' government corporations [under 31 U.S.C. Section 846] nor as 'mixed ownership' corporations [under 31 U.S.C. Section 856] . . .
28 U.S.C. Sections 1346(b), 2671. `Federal agency' is defined as: the executive departments, the military departments, independent establishments of the United States, and corporations acting primarily as instrumentalities of the United States, but does not include any contractors with the United States . . .
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Click here for more info, this is out of an online book full of facts. No theories here, but only facts. Probably the best site I've come accross so far:
http://www.maxexchange.com/ybj/introduction.htm
 
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Here's another thread I'm moving here:
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Ok folks here’s the lowdown on who controls the world!
It’s all in the Federal Reserve and it’s private owners who happen to be international bankers.
These people are pure evil….
Read the following article:

“FEDERAL RESERVE CONTROLS THE MONEY, NOT THE GOVERNMENT
The monetary policy of the United States is the domain of the Federal Reserve Bank and not the government. This process is in direct contradiction of the U.S. Constitution that reposes the responsibility of the monetary system with the Congress of the United States.

Representative Charles A. Lindberg, Sr., the father of the famous aviator, was a member of the Banking and Currency Committee. He opposed the initial Federal Reserve Act and gave a speech on January 20, 1915. "The system is private, conducted for the sole purpose of obtaining the greatest possible profits from the use of other people's money, and in the interest of the stockholders and those allied with them." Representative Louis T. McFadden, chairman of the Housing Banking and Currency Committee, stated on June 10,1932, "Some people think the Federal Reserve Banks are United States Government institutions. They are not Government institutions. They are private credit monopolies that prey upon the people of the United States for the benefit of themselves and their foreign and domestic swindlers; and rich and predatory money lenders."

JOHN F. KENNEDY TRIED TO CHANGE IT
In 1963, President John Kennedy wanted an end to the Federal Reserve System, which had a strangle-hold on the United States and virtually the world. By a simple stroke of the pen, President Kennedy dismissed the Federal Reserve System and ordered the U.S. government to restore its Constitutional-mandate of controlling the money. President Kennedy was dead three weeks later. When President Lyndon Johnson took office, he immediately rescinded Kennedy's order and the Federal Reserve won another round.

FOREIGN BANKERS OWN MAJORITY OF FEDERAL RESERVE
More than half the shareholdings in the Federal Reserve Bank are controlled by large New York City banks, including National City Bank, National Bank of Commerce, First National Bank, Chase National Bank, and Marine National Bank. When Rockefeller's National City Bank merged with J.P. Morgan's First National Bank in 1955, the Rockefeller group owned 22 percent of the shares of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, which in turn holds the majority of shares in the Federal Reserve System - 53 percent. But who really owns what?
Here are the top controllers of the Federal Reserve Bank :
1. Rothchild banks of London and Berlin.
2. Lazard Brothers Banks of Paris.
3. Israel Moses Seif Banks of Italy.
4. Warburg Bank of Hamburg and Amsterdam.
5. Lehman Brothers Bank of New York.
6. Kuhn, Loeb bank of New York.
7. Chase Manhattan Bank of New York,
which controls all of the other 11 Federal Reserve Banks.
8. Goldman, Sachs Bank of New York.

CONCLUSION
No Congress, no President has been strong enough to stand up to the foreign-controlled Federal Reserve Bank. Yet there is a catch - one that President Kennedy recognized before he was slain - the original deal in 1913 creating the Federal Reserve Bank had a simple back-out clause. The investors loaned the United States Government $1 billion. And the back-out clause allows the United States to buy out the system for that $1 billion. If the Federal Reserve Bank were demolished and the Congress of the United States took control of the currency, as required in the Constitution, the National Debt would virtually end overnight, and the need for more taxes and even the income tax, itself. Thomas Jefferson was concise in his early warning to the American nation, "If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issuance of their currency, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered."

The article didn’t mention that Abraham Lincoln also tried to give Congress back the power to produce money. Like Kennedy, he was also assassinated. The above mentioned banks, own other giant corporations.
And not mentioned in this article are the many Jewish owned banks who own just about everything in the world. It was the Jews who invented credit, thus they own every credit issuing institution in the world.
This should give everyone a clearer picture as to who runs the world. And a clearer picture to those who subscribe to the idea of the coming of the Anti-Christ.
He will emerge from these snakes….

For detailed info, go to this sight:
http://www.welfarestate.com/nwo/they.htm

You see, pretty soon we won't need cash or credit cards.
Like Chris said, we are moving in the direction of a single type of currency. Maybe the EURO or the US dollar.
All you will need is the "Verichip" to go by.
All the banks have to do is freeze our accounts if we do not embrace their new ideals. The Anti-christ will have us by the balls!
With this chip, you will be tracked any where in the world, identified, and you'll have all your financial info embedded inside you in a form of a micro-chip.
This goes neck and neck with what the Book of Revelations states when it says that you won't be able to eat or buy anything with out the mark of the beast located either on your head or right hand.
Go to Applied Digital Solutions website for more info:
http://www.adsx.com/index.html


Peace,
Miggidy

PS.... I forgot to mention an interesting thing about Tupac.
Tupac embraced the Killuminati movement just before he was murdered. Who's the Killuminati? Well they are the opposite to the Illuminati. They're purpose is to KILL the illuminati.
Killuminati calls for every African American to go back to their roots and change. Thus Pac changed his name to Makaveli. Killuminati is a spiritual change, thus Pac says "Killuminati all through your body". It also calls for a change of philosophy about life. They hated the Illuminati because they created slavery which lead to the African holocaust.
Could Pac's death be connected to the people atop the Pyramid of evil????
Look at the back of the US dollar, the pyramid and eye is the Logo belonging to the Illuminati.
The illuminated eye is the eye of Satan.
The numerals at the bottom of the pyramid represent the year the Illuminati were established, 1776.
And the "Latin words" at the top read "The New World Order"....
 
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Illuminati is not really a bad concet at all. it sure works. However i think that since there are so many people nver amonting to shit in todays world, it is easy for them to blame problems and throw hate at the ones in charge. They sure will end the world, but too many people try and cut off the head of us all. If you disrupt them, were all dead. Let it be and do your own thing and get what you can.

As for the reserve, its all how banks fundamantally work. Same as insurance companies, its no suprise.
 
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Illuminati not a bad concept?
Really? I understand that people always love to point the finger at some one else.
But damn! That's like saying people target Hitler unfairly.

Read this article:
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THE ILLUMINATI

"WHAT LUCK FOR RULERS THAT MEN DO NOT THINK" - ADOLF HITLER.

"OUR JOB IS TO GIVE PEOPLE NOT WHAT THEY WANT, BUT WHAT WE DECIDE THEY OUGHT TO HAVE" - RICHARD SALANT FORMER PRESIDENT OF CBS NEWS.

This article is dedicated to Exposing "THE ILLUMINATI", a Corrupt and Evil network of Ultra Wealthy People around the world that are literally "RUNNING THE WORLD". This Satanic Network has been connected to, International Bankers, Government, The Mafia, The Trilateral Commission, Multi-National Corporations, Freemasons, Insurance Companies, The Super Wealthy, The Council On Foreign Relations, The Skull and Bones Society at Yale University, The Council of World Churches, The Federal Reserve, The Bildebergs, The Media, The World Bank, The United Nations, The Committee of 300, and many others! "THE ILLUMINATI" are already in a position where they could take over the "People" if they wanted to! They own all of the Food you Buy at the Grocery Store! They start Wars, Smuggle Drugs, Cause Famines, Assassinate Presidents, Release Deadly Viruses, Experiment in Mind Control, Have Evil Advanced Technologies the Public doesn't know about, and much more! THIS IS ALL DOCUMENTED! DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH! WE HAVE BEEN BRAINWASHED! WE ARE IN AN EMERGENCY! PEOPLE HAVE THE POWER!

THIS IS HOW BRAINWASHED THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA HAVE BECOME. WE BELIEVE WE LIVE IN A DEMOCRACY. THIS IS NOT TRUE! WE ARE CURRENTLY LIVING UNDER A DICTATORSHIP! UNDER THE EMERGENCY WAR AND POWERS ACT OF 1933 AND PRESIDENTIAL EXECUTIVE ORDERS THE GOVERNMENT CAN TAKE OVER BANKS, COMMERCE, COMMUNICATIONS, SUSPEND LAWS AND EXERCISE ANY POWER THAT IT CHOOSES. LEGALLY THE PEOPLE HAVE NO POWER AT ALL! ARE YOU SCARED YET?

HISTORY IS A LIE! ALL WARS ARE STARTED ON PURPOSE! "THE ILLUMINATI"FEED ON DEATH AND SUFFERING! IT KEEPS THE PEOPLE IN CHAOS AND THEM IN CONTROL! WAR MAKES TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR THE CORRUPT. THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT KNEW ABOUT PEARL HARBOR BEFORE IT EVER HAPPENED! THE NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY REFUSES TO RELEASE JAPANESE RADIO COMMUNICATIONS INTERCEPTED THE WEEK PRIOR TO THE BOMBING OF HIROSHIMA!

FEDERAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCY

FEMA WAS "NOT" CREATED UNDER CONSTITUTIONAL LAW BY CONGRESS! IT HAS THE POWER TO SUSPEND LAWS, TAKE OVER BANKS, TRANSPORTATION, AND INDUSTRY! THUS YOU HAVE NO CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS OR DEMOCRACY!

CELLULAR TOWERS ALLEGEDLY CAN BE USED FOR CROWD CONTROL! THESE TOWERS CAN OPERATE ON THE SAME WAVELENGTH AS THE HUMAN BRAIN! IT HAS NOW BEEN CONFIRMED THAT TOWERS CAN CAUSE AIRCRAFT TO CRASH!

THE C.I.A. HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN ASSASSINATIONS, OVERTHROWING DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED LEADERS, ELECTION FIXING AND MILITARY SUPPORT FOR BRUTAL PUPPET DICTATORS, DRUG SMUGGLING AND MIND CONTROL!

DAVID ROCKEFELLER IS ALLEGEDLY CERTAINLY ONE OF THE LEADERS OF THIS ELITE EVIL NETWORK ESTABLISHED AROUND THE WORLD. "THE ILLUMINATI" HAVE BEEN LINKED TO SATANIC LIKE RITUALS! CONSPIRACY? I THINK SO!

YELLOWSTONE NATIONAL PARK AND THE STATUE OF LIBERTY ARE NO LONGER CONTROLLED BY THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT. THE UNITED NATIONS HAS DECLARED THEM "U.N. BIOSPHERES". THE UNITED NATIONS HAS QUIETLY TAKEN OVER CONTROL OF 506 PROPERTIES AROUND THE WORLD. NOTICE THAT YOUR NEWS MEDIA DOESNT REPORT THIS TREASON!

THE U.S. GOVERNMENT AND OTHER GOVERNMENTS HAVE BEEN RELEASING DEADLY VIRUSES AND DEADLY CHEMICALS ON THE UNKNOWING PEOPLE FOR MANY YEARS. THE GULF WAR SYNDROME WAS REAL. THE GOVERNMENT LIED! THE "ILLUMINATI"RELEASED AIDS! SATANIC PEOPLE ENJOY DEATH AND DESTRUCTION.

THE FCC IS A GOVERNMENT AGENCY THAT DECIDES WHAT YOU SEE AND HEAR ON TELEVISION, RADIO, SATELLITE, CABLE AND WIRE SERVICES. IS THIS DEMOCRACY?

GEORGE BUSH WAS A MEMBER OF A SECRET ORGANIZATION AT YALE UNIVERSITY CALLED " THE SKULL AND BONES SOCIETY". THIS IS A BREEDING GROUND FOR "THE ILLUMINATI".

THE FEDERAL RESERVE IS NOT A PART OF THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT! IT IS NEITHER FEDERAL OR A RESERVE! CONGRESS IS SUPPOSE TO RUN OUR MONETARY SYSTEM. IT'S NOW BEING RUN BY A GROUP OF ELITE PRIVATE BANKS FOR PROFIT!

IF IT'S NOT TRUE, THEN WHY IS THE GOVERNMENT WITHOLDING SECRET KENNEDY DOCUMENTS UNTIL THE YEAR 2017!

NASA IS LYING TO THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES! THEY REFUSE TO RELEASE CERTAIN SPACE PHOTOGRAPHS TO THE PUBLIC. THEY SAY THEIR SPACE SHUTTLE TRANSMISSIONS ARE LIVE. THEY ARE NOT LIVE SHOTS! THEY ARE DELAYED AND SCREENED! THEY REFUSE TO POINT THE HUBBLE TELESCOPE TOWARDS THE MOON!

ANGELS DON'T PLAY THIS HAARP! UNITED NATIONS DOCUMENTS PROVE THAT WE HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY TO CONTROL THE WEATHER, CAUSE EARTHQUAKES AND FLOODS USING HIGH FREQUENCY SOUND WAVES. THIS HAARP PROJECT IS LOCATED OUTSIDE OF ANCHORAGE, ALASKA.

SECRET UNDERGROUND MILITARY BASES! THESE BASES ARE ALLEGED TO BE LINKED UP BY SECRET TUNNELS WITH BULLET TRAINS THAT DO 600MPH! YOUR TAX DOLLARS PAY FOR THESE SECRETS! NOTICE THE SECRET TUNNEL RUNNING TO MEXICO. DRUG SMUGGLING? WE HAVE NUCLEAR TUNNEL TECHNOLOGY THAT CAN GO THROUGH SOLID ROCK AT 10 MILES AN HOUR! THIS IS WHERE "THE ILLUMINATI"OPERATES!

FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT

THE ACT WAS PASSED IN 1966. THE PEOPLE HAVE NOW RECEIVED MILLIONS OF PAGES OF ONCE SECRET DOCUMENTS USING THIS ACT. DESPITE ABSOLUTE EVIDENCE THAT THE NSA, CIA, FBI, AND THE PENTAGON HAVE BEEN LYING TO THE AMERICAN PUBLIC, PEOPLE STILL REFUSE TO BELIEVE THERE IS A CONSPIRACY!

YOUR GOVERNMENT IS A DRUG PUSHER! THE CORRUPT U.S. GOVERNMENT IS WORKING IN COOPERATION WITH OTHER CORRUPT COUNTRIES TO ENSURE THAT DRUGS FLOW INTO THIS COUNTRY! WHY? BECAUSE IT MAKES BILLIONS OF DOLLARS. THE CIA HAS ALREADY BEEN LINKED TO THE COCAINE TRADE!
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For an in dept look into the Illuminati go here:
http://www.holygrail-church.fsnet.co.uk/The Illuminati.htm
 
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that's some interesting shit

Our history teacher was telling us how some people believe that WW2 was engineered by these banks. During the great depression, while the banks should have been lowering interest rates so people could borrow money and make their life better, they raised interest rates. This made the global economy very weak and forced countries to borrow money from one another, which made them ally eachother, and cause tension between other countries, which eventually started the war. Then WW2 made the banks millions of dollars.
 
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Well what your teacher told you are all facts.
This indeed happenned.
Some call it a coincedence, but it did occur.

Personally,
I think it was done intentionally.
International banks are known to give out loans to countries in need of much cash.
They then jack up the interests rates and make huge bank!
Thus leaving the countries in huge debts that can never be paid off. The banks set themselves up finaicially for ages to come.
That is a known fact.

Many people theorize that banks trigger war every time they're in need of more cash, because countries often borrow money for wars.

Even the US government admits that wars give our economy a good overall boost.

It makes sense when you think about it....
 
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that shit makes you wonder though... why would the banks need more money? they must be fucking RRIICCCHHH. If they run the world what do they need to spend money on?
 
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PHP:
NASA IS LYING TO THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES! THEY REFUSE TO RELEASE CERTAIN SPACE PHOTOGRAPHS TO THE PUBLIC. THEY SAY THEIR SPACE SHUTTLE TRANSMISSIONS ARE LIVE. THEY ARE NOT LIVE SHOTS! THEY ARE DELAYED AND SCREENED! THEY REFUSE TO POINT THE HUBBLE TELESCOPE TOWARDS THE MOON!
why wouldnt they point the telescope at the moon. whats the big deal?



PHP:
SECRET UNDERGROUND MILITARY BASES! THESE BASES ARE ALLEGED TO BE LINKED UP BY SECRET TUNNELS WITH BULLET TRAINS THAT DO 600MPH! YOUR TAX DOLLARS PAY FOR THESE SECRETS! NOTICE THE SECRET TUNNEL RUNNING TO MEXICO. DRUG SMUGGLING? WE HAVE NUCLEAR TUNNEL TECHNOLOGY THAT CAN GO THROUGH SOLID ROCK AT 10 MILES AN HOUR! THIS IS WHERE "THE ILLUMINATI"OPERATES!
supporting facts available?

PHP:
YOUR GOVERNMENT IS A DRUG PUSHER! THE CORRUPT U.S. GOVERNMENT IS WORKING IN COOPERATION WITH OTHER CORRUPT COUNTRIES TO ENSURE THAT DRUGS FLOW INTO THIS COUNTRY! WHY? BECAUSE IT MAKES BILLIONS OF DOLLARS. THE CIA HAS ALREADY BEEN LINKED TO THE COCAINE TRADE!
read "cocaine wars" for more info on the cia and government involvement with the flow of cocaine, and politicians being bought out because everyone has a price.

if you try yahoo and enter HAARP it comes up with a bunch of different web sites that give alot of info on whats crackin in alaska.

PHP:
DAVID ROCKEFELLER IS ALLEGEDLY CERTAINLY ONE OF THE LEADERS OF THIS ELITE EVIL NETWORK ESTABLISHED AROUND THE WORLD. "THE ILLUMINATI" HAVE BEEN LINKED TO SATANIC LIKE RITUALS
someone need to snipe his ass. with all this talk of illuminati and all the bad peoples. is their any type of organization out their that is secretly working against this? makes me wonder if these terrorist we see on the news all the time are really terrorist. or do they just know the truth and are trying to stand up.
i wish i could see the news channels that come on overseas in the east. i bet it would be a whole different story than bullshit cnn, abc etc.......
 
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---Mcell---

"why wouldnt they point the telescope at the moon. whats the big deal? "

Maybe because there are artificial structures in the moon perhaps?
Follow this link for more info:
http://www.mufor.org/moon.html


SECRET UNDERGROUND MILITARY BASES
"supporting facts available? "

One well documented underground base is Cheyenne Mountain.
Go here for more info:
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shadowlands/6583/bases031.html

Also worth mentioning is Mount Weather:
http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/usa/c3i/mt_weather.htm

There's all kinds of these bases all over the world.
You can look up more if you like.

Peace,
Miggidy
 
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Far fetched but not impossible.
It makes you wonder why we haven't gone to the moon in so many years.

After the first moon landing, it would only make sense to visit the moon more often.

Hmmm.... I wonder if NASA has been going to the moon with out letting anyone know.....
 
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..an article i read on collegeclub...

The Dawn of the Phat Antichrists
By Mike Sherman
Daily Northwestern - Northwestern U.

Pop culture presents candidates for Antichrist
July 24, 2003 (U-WIRE)
EVANSTON, Ill. - The end is nigh. The guy outside the Jesus bookstore told me so. I was skeptical at first, but when reputable news sources like "The 700 Club" started picking up the story, I knew it was true. Pat Robertson and friends pointed to a laundry list of signs: Sept. 11, 2001, human cloning, the space shuttle Columbia disaster, impending astrological alignments, Harry Potter, etc.

Soon the Antichrist will come and the war to end all wars shall begin. The forces of God shall battle with the army of Satan for control of the universe. The televangelists are hard at work soliciting donations for spiritual military spending. Satan and friends have been keeping their cool, until recently. All around us, in popular culture, are the true signs of cultivation of his Royal Satanic Majesty's Army