When I asked them about their future, many would say they wanted to be millionaires

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Can teachers overcome poverty? A volunteer's view from the trenches
by Tim Gihring May 11, 2011


Because it was evening, and the students were gone for the day, the school was disarmed. The doors were unlocked and flung open. The security staff was dismissed. The walkie-talkies carried by teachers in case they need backup were put away.

It was Open House a few years ago at a high school in one of Minneapolis's most impoverished neighborhoods. As darkness fell, the teachers lined the hallway leading in, like a parade route. They were tired but excited, practically rubbing their hands together in anticipation of the parents who would, any minute now, stream through the doors.

I began volunteering in Minneapolis public schools when I was freelancing and had the time and interest, as well as some nagging career questions. Who knows, I thought; if teaching proved as fulfilling as it seemed, perhaps a change was in order. I went to training sessions, signed my name to a call sheet, and the first school that rang was this one, on the near North Side of Minneapolis.

I was asked to help students start a school newsletter. The reading teacher who would be my supervisor had assembled a handful of students to be the staff. And on our first day together, after they enjoyed a few laughs at my unbelievable whiteness, I gave them titles: editor, art director, reporters. I assigned their first stories and eagerly awaited their work.

The school didn't resemble the stereotype of a failing urban institution. It was relatively new, clean and stocked with decent Apple computers. It could have passed for a cut-rate consulting firm. The teachers were more diverse but otherwise little different from those I grew up with in a middle-class suburb. Draped in lanyards, their sleeves rolled up, they worked closely with students in groups of five to eight.

The principal was new, a sharp, skinny guy with the enthusiasm and honest smile of a young Arsenio Hall. He knew his flock well and his optimism rarely flagged, even when the school would go into lockdown mode because someone had brought a weapon to school.

The first newsletter deadline came and went. My editor had been attacked with a hairbrush that a classmate had modified with a long nail. One of my reporters had spent the weekend visiting her father in jail. My art director kept falling out of his chair, making machine-gun noises. After two weeks, all I had was a meager sports report and a page of memorials -- farewells to fallen students would become a regular feature.

By then, I'd noticed the walkie-talkies clipped to the teacher's belts. I'd learned that the classroom doors were always locked from the inside. And I'd wondered why the classroom helpers, who the students seemed to respect, all seemed unusually large and streetwise.

As the weeks passed, my news staff dwindled -- students would move, they would be suspended or transferred, their guardians would kick them out, they would become homeless and difficult to track down. In the end, I wrote most of the stories myself, interviewing my students when they dropped in and typing up their thoughts. I laid out the newsletter, too, my art director having declared himself uninterested. I was doing this when he assaulted a teacher in the hall and was wrestled to the ground just outside the computer-room door by one of the large classroom helpers. "Don't open it!" the guy warned me.

With the newsletter project slowing down, I began helping as a reading and writing tutor, working one-on-one with students who showed exceptional promise. My first was a soft-spoken 15-year-old I'll call Eduardo, a romantic who would write love poems to Mariah Carey and carry them around in his shoe where no one would find them. Programs like Teach for America and movies like Waiting for Superman, having cherry-picked their success stories, would have us believe that impoverished students in failing schools are all like this: bright, motivated, lacking nothing but better teachers. That poverty isn't causing the achievement gap but is merely an outcome.

On my first day with Eduardo, I grabbed a book that I figured a high-schooler would be reading. My teacher quickly corrected me: "Try this," she said, and handed me a book shaped like a fire hydrant. It had maybe 15 words on a page, and Eduardo struggled to get through it. Sometimes he would put his head down and nearly fall asleep. Though the school supplied students with breakfast and lunch, I quickly realized that Eduardo wasn't getting food anywhere else. I snuck him granola bars from then on. He also wasn't getting much sleep at home -- he didn't have a home. He'd been through at least two sets of foster parents and now the latest had kicked him out. He was living, when I met him, at a shelter.

He could be moody: sweet one week and impossibly distant the next. Concentration seemed difficult, as it was for most of the students I worked with; many had fetal-alcohol syndrome or some other setback. But I was hopeful about Eduardo. He deftly avoided gang trouble. He ignored the rampages of his peers, who we could hear battling with my supervisor in the next room over. "I don't give a f*** about no grade," they would shout at her. They would throw chairs and storm out of the room.

Eduardo made his literary debut at a school assembly after spending months working on a poem with me. He thanked me from the stage. It was one of the last times I saw him. By then he was staying at a shelter far from school. He was depressed, and he was embarrassed, he said, to show his face at school. My supervisor often worked long into the night, trying to reach kids like him, talking to social workers. But after a while, Eduardo disappeared.

I had other students like him -- boys who wrote poems to fathers who had died of bullets or drugs. They would often want me to write out their work for them, as they recited, since they were terrible at spelling. If I refused, they'd refuse to talk, as though I was being petty. They had nothing; couldn't I, who had everything, do them this one thing?

When I asked them about their future, many would say they wanted to be millionaires, as if that was a career. One asked how much money I made as a journalist and laughed when I told him; he never took me seriously again.

In a sense, the reformers are right: Teachers are often the most important people in these kids' lives -- no one else is helping. But I felt these kids slipping from my grasp one by one, even when they were sitting right in front of me. Stronger forces were pulling us apart: homelessness, depression, in utero setbacks, lack of parents or computers or transportation. Everything that had nothing to do with school had everything to do with school. When we did make progress, when our eyes would meet and we would acknowledge a moment of achievement, it always felt ephemeral, in passing, as though we were glimpsing each other across a great and growing chasm.

At that fall Open House, I waited with the teachers by the door. After 30 minutes, the first parent arrived and looked astounded by the reception line. The other guardians did, too, when they arrived -- all three of them. They were rare birds, and we followed them around the school like ducklings.

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Capitalism = Survival of the Fittest
But seriously gordon, (and please none of your super righteous I made it fuck the other niggas, uber capitalist bullshit) you don't think it isn't the tiniest amount fucked up that large sections of the population started off way behind and they have to make their way up to fools who've had guap, many times dating back because of their exploitation of the greater population? You think it's right to hold them to the same standard? Prob. you don't agree with helping them out but you can honestly sit down and say everybody in America has it the same and the same chance to live the dream?
 
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But seriously gordon, (and please none of your super righteous I made it fuck the other niggas, uber capitalist bullshit) you don't think it isn't the tiniest amount fucked up that large sections of the population started off way behind and they have to make their way up to fools who've had guap, many times dating back because of their exploitation of the greater population? You think it's right to hold them to the same standard? Prob. you don't agree with helping them out but you can honestly sit down and say everybody in America has it the same and the same chance to live the dream?
As a person who lived in poverty for majority of my life, I think everyone has a chance to be whatever they want to be. Only thing that can hold a person back is them. No invisible men behind the curtains, no government conspiracies...only you. I've been told I don't know how many times that I can't be successful because I'm black and from the hood. When I believed that crap, it appeared to be true because those were the results. When I stopped believing it, I put my mind to work and found ways to do things. Suggestion is a motherfucker...and people kill their kids dreams by planting negative thoughts from the get go. People need to quit blaming others and using certain parts of history to make excuses for their lives. Yes, there are families like the Rockefellers, The Vanderbilts and other dynasties. In a way, their children have advantages. But these families weren't always that way. Someone, at some point, worked their ass off to create a fortune for those families (Cornelius Vanderbilt & John D. Rockefeller, Sr.). Why not be the person who goes out into the world, work your ass off to build a fortune, and give your children and other generations after you the advantage? That's the issue....many people aren't thinking like that.

My point is: If you believe you have as much of a chance as anyone else, then you do. But if you don't believe you don't, then you don't. Instead of hating the person whose already done it, why not look at them as proof that you can do it too.
 
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But seriously gordon, (and please none of your super righteous I made it fuck the other niggas, uber capitalist bullshit) you don't think it isn't the tiniest amount fucked up that large sections of the population started off way behind and they have to make their way up to fools who've had guap, many times dating back because of their exploitation of the greater population? You think it's right to hold them to the same standard? Prob. you don't agree with helping them out but you can honestly sit down and say everybody in America has it the same and the same chance to live the dream?


What is the difference between someone who started out with an advantage of resources or someone who started out with an advantage of genetics?

Is is fair that some guys are 6'4 and smart and other guys are 5'4 and dumb? Should we "tax" the 6'4 guys because they enjoy and unfair advantage over their miniature competition?
 

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What is the difference between someone who started out with an advantage of resources or someone who started out with an advantage of genetics?
Clarify your question. Are you comparing the two, the person with a certain ascribed status and a person with genetic advantage to each other or are you comparing them to their respective counterparts like you did below?

Is is fair that some guys are 6'4 and smart and other guys are 5'4 and dumb?
That depends on what you deem to be "fair."

Should we "tax" the 6'4 guys because they enjoy and unfair advantage over their miniature competition?
How did they get the unfair advantage in intelligence?
 

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As a person who lived in poverty for majority of my life, I think everyone has a chance to be whatever they want to be. Only thing that can hold a person back is them. No invisible men behind the curtains, no government conspiracies...only you. I've been told I don't know how many times that I can't be successful because I'm black and from the hood. When I believed that crap, it appeared to be true because those were the results. When I stopped believing it, I put my mind to work and found ways to do things. Suggestion is a motherfucker...and people kill their kids dreams by planting negative thoughts from the get go. People need to quit blaming others and using certain parts of history to make excuses for their lives. Yes, there are families like the Rockefellers, The Vanderbilts and other dynasties. In a way, their children have advantages. But these families weren't always that way. Someone, at some point, worked their ass off to create a fortune for those families (Cornelius Vanderbilt & John D. Rockefeller, Sr.). Why not be the person who goes out into the world, work your ass off to build a fortune, and give your children and other generations after you the advantage? That's the issue....many people aren't thinking like that.

My point is: If you believe you have as much of a chance as anyone else, then you do. But if you don't believe you don't, then you don't. Instead of hating the person whose already done it, why not look at them as proof that you can do it too.
This post is chalk full of contradictions.
 
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This post is chalk full of contradictions.
The entire message throughout my post is basically the same. You're looking for something that isn't there. Besides, you lost credibility with me a long time ago, pal. You're one of those "I can't have anything because I'm black" type of losers. Besides...didn't they already expose you and make a fool of you on national TV?
 

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The entire message throughout my post is basically the same.
According to you, yes.

You're looking for something that isn't there.
This is a passive way of asking me to point it out. No.

Besides, you lost credibility with me a long time ago, pal.
So? You never had any credibility with me, boy. In fact, who are you? You know of me but I don't even know who the hell you are. Aside from taking on the name and persona of a fictional character, who exactly are you?

You're one of those "I can't have anything because I'm black" type of losers.
No. You can have a lot of things if the resources are there, if you have a working knowledge of what it is you're doing and if people are willing to vouche for you. Disregarding institutional deviance, it is still foolish to imply or hold the belief that the only problem holding people back are the people themselves.

Besides...didn't they already expose you and make a fool of you on national TV?
Absolutely not. What was exposed, is the fact that many in the black community are spending money in areas that scream "I've made it" but actually impede ROI and having new revenue streams. For example, I was saying that blacks need to INVEST in tangibles such as gold and silver instead of putting it in their mouth or wearing it around their necks and arms. At the time these tangibles were around the $375 an oz (gold) and $15 an oz (silver.) Now gold is closing at $1,500 and silver hovering around $50. But hey, don't listen to me! I'm the nobody that was exposed of as a fool on national tv, the guy who went on tv claiming that we weren't told the truth about 9-11, that black people are a dying race due to ignorance, misappropriation of culture, LACK of "do for yourself" attitude, that black "leadership" is something we need to do away with and that entrepreneurship within the black community is vital to growth. So now you're thinking, "well isn't that the same thing I'm saying only without the hat?" No it isn't. Am I going to explain it to you? No, the fact I already wasted time answering such frivolity (your post) seals the deal.

ETA: Try reading the article and seek to understand the thesis.

This will help you:

In a sense, the reformers are right: Teachers are often the most important people in these kids' lives -- no one else is helping. But I felt these kids slipping from my grasp one by one, even when they were sitting right in front of me. Stronger forces were pulling us apart: homelessness, depression, in utero setbacks, lack of parents or computers or transportation. Everything that had nothing to do with school had everything to do with school. When we did make progress, when our eyes would meet and we would acknowledge a moment of achievement, it always felt ephemeral, in passing, as though we were glimpsing each other across a great and growing chasm.