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MEXICO CITY (Reuters) - Mexico plans to press Austria once again to return a centuries old bejewelled feather headdress now in an Austrian museum, Foreign Minister Luis Ernesto Derbez said on Thursday.


"It is an archaeological piece of incalculable value for the history of our nation," said Derbez at a news conference.

President
Vicente Fox will personally ask for its return at a summit of Latin American and European leaders in Vienna in May if there is no progress before then.

"If we are still without results at the time of the May meeting in Austria, we will reiterate via the president our request to the government that this be resolved," Derbez said.

Fox already asked Austrian President Heinz Fischer during a visit to Mexico in 2005 to return the piece. Many Mexicans consider the headdress their country's single most important relic.

The artifact is nearly a yard (metre) wide and made from more than 450 elegant, vivid green feathers of the quetzal bird mounted in a jewel and gold encrusted crown.

According to popular belief, it originally belonged to Moctezuma, the Aztec emperor defeated by Spanish invaders in the 16th century, although historians say its true origins are unknown.

Despite some positive noises from Austria, there is opposition to returning the headdress - including from the Vienna museum that holds it.

The piece is believed to have arrived in Europe at some point in the 16th century. Some say it was part of the booty sent back by conquistador Hernan Cortes after his 1519 attack on Mexico.

According to Vienna's Museum of Ethnology, it later fell into the hands of Austria's Archduke Ferdinand of Tyrol.

Some experts say it finally became public property in Austria when it was donated to the museum during the Second World War by a private collector..............IVE BEEN TO THE MUSEO DE ANTROPOLOGIA IN MEXICO CITY AND THEY HAVE A REPLICA OF THE CROWN..ITS BEUTIFUL TO ME.ITS SAD THAT THESE EUROPEANS BELEIVE IT BELONGS TO THEM.
 
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i trip out on how many fools i see around the greater los angeles area with their sub-commandante marcos t-shirts,but when i ask them..are u down to head down south and go heads up against mexican soldiers?they have nothing to say..thats always been the mexican way..always complain and never do anything...theyre just satisfied by the fact that they can always cross the border and escape the misery that they live in....in all seriousness..when i see ppl like bill orielly talking about closing the border..i think it might be a good thing for mexico..once the option of coming north is cut off..then maybe all mexicans would take a stand against that corrupt system of government that has ruled for so long
 

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surcaliman said:
MEXICO CITY (Reuters) - Mexico plans to press Austria once again to return a centuries old bejewelled feather headdress now in an Austrian museum, Foreign Minister Luis Ernesto Derbez said on Thursday.


"It is an archaeological piece of incalculable value for the history of our nation," said Derbez at a news conference.

President
Vicente Fox will personally ask for its return at a summit of Latin American and European leaders in Vienna in May if there is no progress before then.

"If we are still without results at the time of the May meeting in Austria, we will reiterate via the president our request to the government that this be resolved," Derbez said.

Fox already asked Austrian President Heinz Fischer during a visit to Mexico in 2005 to return the piece. Many Mexicans consider the headdress their country's single most important relic.

The artifact is nearly a yard (metre) wide and made from more than 450 elegant, vivid green feathers of the quetzal bird mounted in a jewel and gold encrusted crown.

According to popular belief, it originally belonged to Moctezuma, the Aztec emperor defeated by Spanish invaders in the 16th century, although historians say its true origins are unknown.

Despite some positive noises from Austria, there is opposition to returning the headdress - including from the Vienna museum that holds it.

The piece is believed to have arrived in Europe at some point in the 16th century. Some say it was part of the booty sent back by conquistador Hernan Cortes after his 1519 attack on Mexico.

According to Vienna's Museum of Ethnology, it later fell into the hands of Austria's Archduke Ferdinand of Tyrol.

Some experts say it finally became public property in Austria when it was donated to the museum during the Second World War by a private collector..............IVE BEEN TO THE MUSEO DE ANTROPOLOGIA IN MEXICO CITY AND THEY HAVE A REPLICA OF THE CROWN..ITS BEUTIFUL TO ME.ITS SAD THAT THESE EUROPEANS BELEIVE IT BELONGS TO THEM.
I think it should be given back......after all its part of their history.....
 
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surcaliman said:
i trip out on how many fools i see around the greater los angeles area with their sub-commandante marcos t-shirts,but when i ask them..are u down to head down south and go heads up against mexican soldiers?they have nothing to say..thats always been the mexican way..always complain and never do anything...theyre just satisfied by the fact that they can always cross the border and escape the misery that they live in....in all seriousness..when i see ppl like bill orielly talking about closing the border..i think it might be a good thing for mexico..once the option of coming north is cut off..then maybe all mexicans would take a stand against that corrupt system of government that has ruled for so long
true, mexico is corrupted to the extreme however you cant say that the mexican people dont want to anything about it, its just that they CANT... the poor over there are POOR and like america u cant have a good representation without $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
 
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thats a tough one because it didnt belong to "Mexico", according to the article it belonged to the chief of a tribe in mexico.

i say if they want to voluntarily give it to Mexico to put on display in their country that would be nice gesture.

if they dont want to, oh well, they shouldnt have too.
 
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What LA Dodgers said is correct.

Now is not a time to be bellicose and ostentatious. Sit back and see what happens. If it gets returned, you had better be kissing Austria's ass, and if it doesn't...stay vigilant and try another route.
 
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surcaliman said:
^^^IMMA BRAKE INTO UR HOUSE AND STEAL SUM STUFF...THE U CAN ASK ME IF I WILL VOLUNTARILY RETURN IT...OK.

big difference because that stuff would have belonged to ME. you would have stole it from ME and i would have the rights to it.


what we are talking about here is a headdress that belonged to "a" chief (different chiefs, different tribes). at that point Mexico did not exist. so they cant really claim it as theirs.

again i will repeat, it would be a nice gesture if they did return it. and they probly will.