What is the war with Iraq over?

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What is the new IRAQ-USA war over?

  • Protecting the USA people from Iraq and their weapons.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Protecting the Middle East from Iraq and their weapons.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Oil.

    Votes: 6 35.3%
  • Terrorism related conspiracies/links/and groups.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Liberating the Iraqi people.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Iraq failed to disarm.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Russia is no longer our BIG ENEMY, so we need to find a new one.

    Votes: 3 17.6%
  • Sadam is a mad man who can't be trusted.

    Votes: 1 5.9%
  • Religion.

    Votes: 2 11.8%
  • If the world was all FEMALES, we would have no war, just lots of peace and lesbians. (Basically, WA

    Votes: 5 29.4%

  • Total voters
    17

HERESY

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america needs a "bad guy".

this bad guy is usually a country or person that the us has helped before......

saddam.........iraq......bin laden.....russia.......

how can you have a sequel if you get rid of your super villian???? you cant. so you let him live on so you can have part 2 and 3 and 4 and 5 and 6 and 7 and.......you get the picture.

oil does play a big factor. try OPEC and ARBUSTO.

:H:
 
May 12, 2002
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Anti-Flag
From the album "Mobilize"

10 easy steps to create an enemy and start a war:
Listen closely because we will all see this weapon used in our lives.
It can be used on a society of the most ignorant to the most highly educated.
We need to see their tactics as a weapon against humanity and not as truth.

First step: create the enemy. Sometimes this will be done for you.

Second step: be sure the enemy you have chosen is nothing like you.
Find obvious differences like race, language, religion, dietary habits
fashion. Emphasize that their soldiers are not doing a job,
they are heatless murderers who enjoy killing!

Third step: Once these differences are established continue to reinforce them
with all disseminated information.

Fourth step: Have the media broadcast only the ruling party's information
this can be done through state run media.
Remember, in times of conflict all for-profit media repeats the ruling party’s information.
Therefore all for-profit media becomes state-run.

Fifth step: show this enemy in actions that seem strange, militant, or different.
Always portray the enemy as non-human, evil, a killing machine.

CHORUS: THIS IS HOW TO CREATE AN ENEMY. THIS IS HOW TO START A WAR.
THIS IS HOW TO CREATE AN ENEMY.

Sixth step: Eliminate opposition to the ruling party.
Create an "Us versus Them" mentality. Leave no room for opinions in between.
One that does not support all actions of the ruling party should be considered a traitor.

Seventh step: Use nationalistic and/or religious symbols and rhetoric to define all actions.
This can be achieved by slogans such as "freedom loving people versus those who hate freedom."
This can also be achieved by the use of flags.

Eighth step: Align all actions with the dominant deity.
It is very effective to use terms like, "It is god’s will" or "god bless our nation."

Ninth step: Design propaganda to show that your soldiers
have feelings, hopes, families, and loved ones.
Make it cleat that your soldiers are doing a duty; they do not want or like to kill.

Tenth step: Create and atmosphere of fear, and instability
and then offer the ruling party as the only solutions to comfort the public’s fears.
Remembering the fear of the unknown is always the strongest fear.

CHORUS (repeat); We are not countries. We are not nations. We are not religions.
We are not gods. We are not weapons. We are not ammunition. We are not killers.
We will NOT be tools.

I'm not a fucker
I will not die
I will not kill
I will not be your slave
I will not fight your battle
I will not die on your battlefield
I will not fight for your world
I am not a fighter
I'm in UNITYYY!!!
 
May 8, 2002
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its a combination of things

1. a madman
2. WMD
3. his connection to known terrorists (hamas, Hezbollah and Al-Quida)
4. oil
5. 17 broken resolutions
6. an agressive evil dictator
7. check amnesty international and see how evil he is
 
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HERESY said:
america needs a "bad guy".

this bad guy is usually a country or person that the us has helped before......

saddam.........iraq......bin laden.....russia.......

how can you have a sequel if you get rid of your super villian???? you cant. so you let him live on so you can have part 2 and 3 and 4 and 5 and 6 and 7 and.......you get the picture.

oil does play a big factor. try OPEC and ARBUSTO.

:H:
What you said reminded me of that movie "Unbrakeable" where Sam Jackson said something like "every hero needs a nemisis". Thats what is going on, America needs Enemies.



oh yeah Ivoted for Oil new enemy and Religion(VERY IMPORTANT)
 
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The history of US intervention in the Persian Gulf and the Middle East, the policies and political character of the Bush administration, the social situation in the US, & the economic context within which the war drive is unfolding.
 

HERESY

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Mcleanhatch said:
its a combination of things

1. a madman
2. WMD
3. his connection to known terrorists (hamas, Hezbollah and Al-Quida)
4. oil
5. 17 broken resolutions
6. an agressive evil dictator
7. check amnesty international and see how evil he is
1.WHO BUSH?

2.WEAPONS AMERICA MOST LIKELY GAVE IRAQ?

3.BUSHS CONNECTION WITH THE KARLYLE CORP AND THE BIN LADENS INVESTING IN ARBUSTO ENERGY WHICH IS A BUSH OWNED COMPANY? THE FACT THAT THE US HELP TRAIN BIN LADEN?

4.ARBUSTO ENERGY?

5.THE ONES AMERICA BROKE OR ARE ABOUT TO BREAK?

6.YEAH THATS BUSH. HE WANTS TO WAGE WAR WHEN AMERICA HAS NOT BEEN ATTACKED BY IRAQ,NO WAR HAS BEEN MANDATED BY THE UN AND NO INTERNATIONAL CRISIS IS AT HAND.....

7.YEAH THEY HAVE A LOT OF INFO ABOUT BUSH.


MCLEANHATCH YOUR NOT SUCH A BAD GUY AFTER ALL. I KNEW YOU WOULD SEE THE LIGHT AND COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT BUSH AND HIS WAR ARE EVIL.

THANKS PAL! :) :)

:h:
 
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Mcleanhatch said:
3. his connection to known terrorists (hamas, Hezbollah and Al-Quida)
Hamas and Hizib Allah????

If Saddam had any form of connection with Hamas, then why don't they have any type of weapons???

They only got assault rifles, a couple of RBJs and hand made bombs made out of dirt.

I voted for the obvious
1. RELIGION
2. OIL
 
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Mcleanhatch said:
its a combination of things

1. a madman
2. WMD
3. his connection to known terrorists (hamas, Hezbollah and Al-Quida)
4. oil
5. 17 broken resolutions
6. an agressive evil dictator
7. check amnesty international and see how evil he is
1. True, he's a madman
2. Not true...they've found no indications of WMD, and even the Bush administration has stopped making those claims.
3. The first two terrorist groups you noted...their connection to Iraq is very questionable. And ideas about a link between Saddam and Al-Qaeda is bullshit...the two hate eachother.
4. Yes, oil
5. So? The U.S. gives billions of dollars annually to a country that has broken just as many, if not more U.N. resolutions then Iraq.
6. True, but there are plenty of those that we're paying virtually no attention to.
7. see last comment
 
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Young Bull said:
Hamas and Hizib Allah????

If Saddam had any form of connection with Hamas, then why don't they have any type of weapons???
well they ran a broadcast of Iraqi TV a couple of weeks ago that they aired here on FOX NEWS showing Sadam Hussien handing out checks to the families of suicide bombers which were members of Hamas and Hezbollah. they were $15,000 checks