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EDJ said:
^IS THAT WHAT HAPPENED? CAN YOU ELABORATE?
Life practice has proven the much of what i was taught in school, by society, by the community, by religious institutions, by family to be false or purposefully misleading.

Mislead about the country we live in

Mislead about the myth of societal upward mobility surpassing class/race

Mislead about religion, the existence of god

Mislead about the nature of man

Mislead about numerous historical events

Mislead about other cultures, governments, etc

Mislead about world/U.S. history

Mislead about love, relationships, friendship, the family


feel free to replace mislead with lied to in many of those, it might make what i was saying seem stronger.


experiencing the truth first hand contrary to the lies you have been told even if for something small or seemingly insignificant at the time can change your entire life afterwards and cause you to question everything (rightfully or not) and lead you to many more "moments of clarity" where you experience the truth.
 

EDJ

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^YOU MIgHT DENY IT, AND THAT'S PART OF THE WARPED OUT PART. NAW, BUT BY SPIRITUAL SIDE, I MEAN THE INNER FEELIN' WITHIN EACH ONE OF US THAT SEEKS ANSWERS, AS FAR AS WHY WE HERE, WHY ARE WE JUST BORN TO DIE, AND IF THERE'S SOMETHIN' ELSE OTHA THAN THIS SHITHOLE EXISTENCE WE LIVE IN.
 
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EDJ said:
BY SPIRITUAL SIDE, I MEAN THE INNER FEELIN' WITHIN EACH ONE OF US THAT SEEKS

Isn't that what i just said i was doing? By realizing the bullshit and striving for truth?

Wouldn't that mean my "spiritual side" is quite the opposite of warped?
 

EDJ

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^THAT'S JUST YOUR SPIRITUAL SIDE SEEKIN'. THE THANg IS DID YOU FIND THAT TRUTH THAT APPEASED YOUR SPIRITUALITY OR DO YOU STILL SEEK? OR IS YOUR SPIRITUAL SIDE WARPED THAT YOU DON'T KNOW IF YOU FOUND SHIT?
 
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holy contradictions batman!

what is essential rather than superficial - the Ideal rather than the merely "real"

if your spiritual side is that within you which seeks, how can it be in the act of seeking and be warped (as so far as you have previously defined it)?

if you appease your spiritual side (that which seeks) how can you have a spiritual side anymore? In appeasing your spiritual side (that which seeks) that would mean it would no longer have anything to search for thus negate its existence and thus you would no longer have a spiritual side.
 

EDJ

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^JUST QUESTIONS PLAYA.

BUT YOU STRESSED, "what is essential rather than superficial - the Ideal rather than the merely "real""

CAN YOU ELABORATE? IS THIS A QUESTION POSED CAUSE I DON'T SEE A QUESTION MARK? CAN YOU REPHRASE THAT?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "if your spiritual side is that within you which seeks, how can it be in the act of seeking and be warped (as so far as you have previously defined it)?"

EASY. THE SENSE OF IT, YOUR PERCEPTION OF THANgS. YOU MIgHT THINK YOU QUENCHED THAT DESIRE WHEN IN REALITY IT COULD'VE OF BEEN AN ILLUSION.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "if you appease your spiritual side (that which seeks) how can you have a spiritual side anymore?"

NOBODY SAID THE SHIT gOES AWAY. IF YOU APPEASE IT, THEN YOU gO ABOUT YOUR NEW KNOWLEDgE. IT JUST DOESN'T DISAPPEAR. EXAMPLE: ALL MY LIFE I QUESTIONED CHURCH DOgMAS CAUSE IT NEVA MADE SENSE. THEN WITH KNOWLEDgE I FIND OUT THAT THAT IT AIN'T REALLY WHAT SCRIPTURE TEACHES. SO MY SPIRITUALITY SOAKS THAT KNOWLEDgE AND I'M MORE IN HARMONY WITH IT.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "In appeasing your spiritual side (that which seeks) that would mean it would no longer have anything to search for thus negate its existence and thus you would no longer have a spiritual side."

FALSE. LET'S NOT gET AHEAD OF OURSELVES AND START ASSUMIN' THANgS.
 
Apr 25, 2002
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EDJ said:
EASY. THE SENSE OF IT, YOUR PERCEPTION OF THANgS. YOU MIgHT THINK YOU QUENCHED THAT DESIRE WHEN IN REALITY IT COULD'VE OF BEEN AN ILLUSION.

If you quenched it, there would be no more search. There was the illusion of it being quenched, you would not know and thus there would be no more search.

no?


EDJ said:
THEN YOU STRESSED, "if you appease your spiritual side (that which seeks) how can you have a spiritual side anymore?"

NOBODY SAID THE SHIT gOES AWAY. IF YOU APPEASE IT, THEN YOU gO ABOUT YOUR NEW KNOWLEDgE. IT JUST DOESN'T DISAPPEAR. EXAMPLE: ALL MY LIFE I QUESTIONED CHURCH DOgMAS CAUSE IT NEVA MADE SENSE. THEN WITH KNOWLEDgE I FIND OUT THAT THAT IT AIN'T REALLY WHAT SCRIPTURE TEACHES. SO MY SPIRITUALITY SOAKS THAT KNOWLEDgE AND I'M MORE IN HARMONY WITH IT.[/B]
If you seek, then find, how does it not go away? If you questioned the dogma, then find out that it's not really what scripture teaches, and then move on, how are you still seeking the answer to your initial questioning? You seek, you find, and that's it, it's been found. You've got your answer, what do you do keep asking the same question even though you've found your truth?

EDJ said:
FALSE. LET'S NOT gET AHEAD OF OURSELVES AND START ASSUMIN' THANgS.
I'm not assuming anything. I'm trying to figure out what the fuck you're talking about in this very round about criptic manner that you've got going. By the definition you used for "your spiritual side" that's the conclusion that can be made. If not, explain why not.
 

EDJ

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CB,
YOU CUT AND DRY ASS MUTHA-FUKA. LOL. LET ME FURTHER YOUR ENQUIRY.

YOU STRESSED, "If you quenched it, there would be no more search."

YES, BUT SPIRITUALITY DOES NOT EXIST ONLY FOR THE SEARCH.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "There was the illusion of it being quenched, you would not know and thus there would be no more search.

no?"

IF INDEED YOU REALLY BELIEVED SUCH AND TIME DONE TOLD.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "If you seek, then find, how does it not go away?"

IF YOU EAT, DOES YOUR HUNgER gO AWAY? HOW ABOUT TOMORROW? YOU ALREADY ATE, SO YOU MUST NOT EVER BE HUNgRY AgAIN, RIgHT? YOU FEED YOUR SPIRITUALITY AND STRENgTHEN IT.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "If you questioned the dogma, then find out that it's not really what scripture teaches, and then move on, how are you still seeking the answer to your initial questioning?"

IT'S CALLED ACCURATE KNOWLEDgE TO PUT FAITH IN. ONCE YOU FOUND IT, YOU REFINE IT TO YOUR UNDA-STANDIN'. IT'S LIKE JEWELERY. YOU KEEP POLISHIN' IT.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "You seek, you find, and that's it, it's been found."

IS IT? SO MAINTENANCE AIN'T REQUIRED?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "You've got your answer, what do you do keep asking the same question even though you've found your truth?"

NO, YOU MIgHT CALIBRATE YOUR KNOWLEDgE OF SUCH OR REFINE SUCH THAT YOU KNOW IT LIKE A SCIENCE.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "I'm not assuming anything. I'm trying to figure out what the fuck you're talking about in this very round about criptic manner that you've got going. By the definition you used for "your spiritual side" that's the conclusion that can be made. If not, explain why not."

YOU MAKIN' ASSUMPTIONS ON WHAT YOU KNOW AND YOUR REACTIONS, WHICH ARE VERY CUT AND DRY. WE ALL INDIVIDUALS AND WE ALL COME TO DIFFERENT CONCLUSIONS TO THANgS AND SITUATIONS, EVEN IF WE WERE POSED WITH THE EXACT SAME SCENARIO. SO YOUR CONCLUSION IS DIFFERENT THAN MINES AND AIN'T THE ONLY ONE THAT CAN BE MADE. CAUSE FOR ONE, SPIRITUALITY AIN'T SOMETHIN' THAT JUST gOES AWAY. IT'S IN US TIL WE DIE. WHEN WE FIND ANSWERS TRIggERED BY OUR SPIRITUALITY, THEN OUR SPIRITUALITY DOESN'T CEASE. IT'S APPEASED IN THAT ASPECT, BUT IT IS NOT ANNHILATED AND TOOKEN CARE OF TO WHERE IT DISAPPEARS.