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Need To Get A Website Designed

Sposed to have had one done a long time ago, but the designers have ended up faking on me

If you can, post or pm or email me ([email protected]) some samples of your work, and your prices or maybe we could work a trade if you need some graphic work done
 
BGN79

BGN79

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MCKadafi

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Military Minded Productions. Worked with a lot of cats from New York (Alicia Keys, Ja Rule, AMW DJ's, dj honda, ...), L.A. (MC Eiht, Snoop, DPG,...), Bay Area (I was staying with JT for 3 month in Berkeley!) ....

I am working on my own website right now www.militaryminded.net/mmp2 ... it aint 100% done but it shows you what I can, flash is missing right now but I can do flash!
 
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swheat

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LadyTragik said:
@dee,

i recommend BaDeA..he gets down & hes real affordable
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BaDea still uses tables for layout which isn't W3C standard compliant.

There are many good reasons not to use tables to create web page layouts: unnecessarily complication code, they defy the most basic rule of information storage and retrieval by mixing content with appearance, they destroy logical document flow, and most of all, they were not a tool which was created to do this job. Why continue using them when CSS has a whole suite of far superior page layout features, with the added bonus of streamlined code, separation of content appearance and caomplete control over logical document flow?
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http://www.westciv.com/style_master/house/good_oil/dead_layout/


Either use me for developing your site or BGN79
 
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gwritin

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May 17, 2004
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swheat said:
BaDea still uses tables for layout which isn't W3C standard compliant.



http://www.westciv.com/style_master/house/good_oil/dead_layout/


Either use me for developing your site or BGN79
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it seems like the guy who wrote that article is just mad that table codes are to complicated for him to understand... you take a bus to canada and I drive-- all that matters is we end up at the same place...

whether one designer uses css or tables is up to the designer who cares if it makes it complicated IMO... also hes talking about loading time..come on tables? if so, then it would be even worse for the page to refer to a external file like css...

I doubt they are looking for something that is w3c compliant--they want some good looking stuff..
 
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swheat

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gwritin said:
it seems like the guy who wrote that article is just mad that table codes are to complicated for him to understand... you take a bus to canada and I drive-- all that matters is we end up at the same place...

whether one designer uses css or tables is up to the designer who cares if it makes it complicated IMO... also hes talking about loading time..come on tables? if so, then it would be even worse for the page to refer to a external file like css...

I doubt they are looking for something that is w3c compliant--they want some good looking stuff..
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No company will hire a web designer who uses tables.

Tableless design is a flexible way and CSS is semantically correct.


don't use tables for layout because:

1. It is semantically incorrect, and
2. Tables are less flexible than divs etc.

e.g. It is possible to rearrange the order in which boxes are displayed on a page, even make them stack, just by changing a few CSS properties. This is impossible with tables, which are rigid and immovable.
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And if you want to use SEO techniques then CSS allows you to use many tricks that tables cant provide ;)

When Web Accessibility is concerned then a screen reader will read the tables from left to right.

Do not use tables for layout unless the table makes sense when linearised

In screen readers and text browsers, the reading order is determined primarily the be the order in which text appears in the markup (also referred to as "source order"). For tables, this has the effect of reading any cells sequentially left to right, top to bottom. Depending on how a table-based (multi-column) layout is constructed, content that appears to make sense visually may be read completely out of order once linearised.
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http://www.webaim.org/articles/evaluatingwithfirefox/

Read 5:3 and 5:4:
http://www.w3.org/WAI/wcag-curric/chk6-0.htm
 
BGN79

BGN79

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instead of hating on swheat, you should be glad he is willing to share IMPORTANT information. Have you every had to redesign a site that is based on tables its a nightmare. if you write your site using div tags you can pretty much control the whole layout with CSS

BaDeA does very nice work, I actually thought his sites where created using div
 
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gwritin

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May 17, 2004
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I wasn't hating on swheat at all i was actaully hatin on the guy that did the article... but thats what i get for scamming but most of what swheat is saying is true, but i meant for a small independent sites like the ones i think they want; the customers want look vs code... oh and stop tryin to stick up for him cause he referred you lol...
on a non hating note swheat check your pm haha...
 
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