We should all Slaughter our own food...

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Jul 10, 2002
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... at least once.

Even though I have never gone hunting, or caught an animal, I think that animal slaugher should be required as part of the Middle School curriculum.

Think about how removed we are from associating the meat we eat to a natural living breathing thing...

(This also goes on to the point that we should all be forced to grow our own produce as well. Many urban/sub-urban young children don't even relate that a 'carrot comes from dirt in the earth..., but back to that later)

(and to avoid any ridicule, no, I'm not a vegetarian/vegan granola nut)...

However, I wonder if we all experienced the slaughter/gutting/cleansing part of the meat preparation process at a young age, if it would affect not only our consumption habits, but levels of consciousness as well.

If we don't do this, at least send the school kids to a field trip to the slaughter house.
 

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I actually agree with you (about hunting etc.) Remember those "living off the land" threads I made some time ago? I think I made two of them, but anyway, this would fall under that.

However, IMHO, you are coming off as a granola eating hippy. In fact, you are starting to remind me of the foodsnotbombs guy who was upset at the fact that I was passing out meat products to the homeless. I should have allowed one of the homeless guys to stretch him out, but I'm compassionate and understanding. But back to you, and your "go to the slaughterhouse" suggestion. What do you think it will prove? Do you think the majority of people will stop eating meat?

Hell, if the majority of people see videos of people getting bombs dropped on their skulls and kids with brain matter oozing out their ear while fragments of their crushed skull lie several inches away, still shout "God Bless America",what makes you think a field trip will have a significant impact?
 
Dec 25, 2003
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Should we all kill our own civilian Iraqi?

Should we go to Israel and fire a mortar round into the occupied territories?

Should we assist in the slaughter in Darfur?

Should we work for a week in sweatshops that produce our clothes under the same conditions as the workers?

I don't follow this line of reasoning.
 
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Do you do drugs? Lol. Part of middle school curriculum? I had a panic attack while having a blood test I don't know how I'd feel if I had to slaughter a live animal for consumption purposes. Especially at the ages of 11-14. I agree with your intentions but this is just hella not realistic.
 
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I had to watch my grandpa slaughter plenty of pigs when I was around 10 or 11, and later I had to help him clean the pig and hold the meat while he cut it into pieces. I was tripped out at first, but I still ate because carnitas are so damn good.

I agree with you though, in that everyone should hunt and grow their own food. If I get enough money, I eventually plan to do both while living in a Rancho.
 
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Are you sure you want to make fieldtrips for school kids to slaughter houses?
Then check out this clip

http://www.meat.org/


On the otherhand I agree with you , tho. Its sad that children today think that vegetables and milk etc comes from factories.
I'm not a vegetarian but lately I'm more consious about my meat, I eat less meat, because of similar reasons.
 
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fathers just need to take their sons fishing and hunting moreoften..

and mothers need to teach their duaghters how to cook more often..

then they will both deal with RAW meat..
at one time or another..

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Maybe education in general should be the general focus of a young person’s time in school. Honestly if you don’t associate meat/dairy/eggs/etc with animals you’re probably a dumbass and going to a slaughter house wouldn’t do you any good anyway. School/community gardens (even simple science projects) should be a good enough way to teach people from an early age that a “carrot comes from dirt in the earth.”

In all probability if people were more involved in either slaughtering/butchering or farming/herding whatever the only major effect on consumption would be an inclination to higher quality and greater standards for their consumption. It probably wouldn’t drive people away from eating meat; they’d just want something better than a McDonald’s “beef” patty.

You are thinking in the right direction by critiquing the problems of technology, production, industrialism, labor and specialization, civilization, etc. But the solution would not be something as simple as a trip to the slaughter house. And if/when you did find a solution the trip to the slaughter house wouldn’t even be needed.
 
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H said:
However, IMHO, you are coming off as a granola eating hippy. In fact, you are starting to remind me of the foodsnotbombs guy who was upset at the fact that I was passing out meat products to the homeless. I should have allowed one of the homeless guys to stretch him out, but I'm compassionate and understanding. But back to you, and your "go to the slaughterhouse" suggestion. What do you think it will prove? Do you think the majority of people will stop eating meat?
The point is not to stop eating meat or deprive anyone from our carnal instincts, far far from that, (I love my red meat in moderation and poultry and fish), but more to raise our level of consciousness in regards to our consumption habits...

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Hell, if the majority of people see videos of people getting bombs dropped on their skulls and kids with brain matter oozing out their ear while fragments of their crushed skull lie several inches away, still shout "God Bless America",what makes you think a field trip will have a significant impact?
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Are the civilians who actually see these the one's who shout "God Bless America"

I don't know, but it'd be a great idea to televise that stuff, keep in mind that although I am against capital punsihment, I firmly believe as long as it is a part of our penal system it too should be open for public broadcast...

WD said:
Should we all kill our own civilian Iraqi?

Should we go to Israel and fire a mortar round into the occupied territories?

Should we assist in the slaughter in Darfur?

Should we work for a week in sweatshops that produce our clothes under the same conditions as the workers?

I don't follow this line of reasoning.
Yeah, I'm not sure if I follow it either, but it makes for good discussion...

I guess the point is if we had more up front and in your face exposure to some of your afforementioned examples, how would it affect us and our society as a whole?
 
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Yeah, I'm not sure if I follow it either, but it makes for good discussion...

I guess the point is if we had more up front and in your face exposure to some of your afforementioned examples, how would it affect us and our society as a whole?
More realistic and objective public understanding of world problems would be a huge boon to American policy direction.

That said, we live in the land of the stupid, and the forces allied in protection of ignorance are great and mighty.

Might as well be an ignorant capitalist and keep movin.