We are not wired from birth for Aggression, Violence, Self-Interest

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Legman

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the video was good

but honestly, this should be common sense...

you can lock a human in a box with no social contact, or communication, give him all the food, water, and life giving essentials to him/her they would still suffer and die

now granted that we are social people, its a given that we would feel empathy and love and all that shit

the only reason we have oppression and violence running rampant is becuz of jealousy and greed, nothin new really

its sad
 
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Sounds good.... But some humans strike me as trash beyond the scope of his study. It all makes good sense And as I am a visual learner the drawings simplified it all....but he whole time I could not help but imagine those people I know with no regard for anyone but themselves and evil to the core. Same genes or not I thought people could alter their chemistry by drugs changing their neurotransmitters effecting behavior and empathy... thats why when one parent is on drugs their offspring have genetic dispositions to some day fall into the same addictions..So as shit,people change how many have strayed from empathetic caring core? makes you think! Nice post!
 
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Basically the video told me that our empathy stops at who we consider to be us. It would've been nice if it explored when do we cut off a "brother/sister", from what actions do they become foreign, enemy, dangerous. Also, how does this shit work in capitalist countries that push the idea of you, and only you capitalizing and being your own marketable force.
 

drewski.kalonji

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Basically the video told me that our empathy stops at who we consider to be us. It would've been nice if it explored when do we cut off a "brother/sister", from what actions do they become foreign, enemy, dangerous.
I was thinking the same exact thing after watching the presentation.

I'm thinking the foreign/enemy emerges when more than a few of our brothers and sisters we trust, constantly tell us that something is not deserving of life or respect. from hitting a squiral with your car tire on the street to banging on gang rivals, if your surroundings constantly tell you that somethings not worth compassion, most humans just kinda roll with it.
 
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Yeah, but I'm talking about people within our group becoming enemies. Since you used gangs lets use gangs. The Crips started out as the Crips -united, a solid force... What made it where other crip sets could anytime be enemies, and that all other crip sets could be flipped from ally to enemy within a moment?

like the presentation says that Jews are with Jews, and Muslims are with Muslims, Christians etc., but the news shows you that Christians and Muslims could give a fuck about each other, until a common enmy comes, and even then they still smokin each other. I think are empathy is based on if we have a foreign element, and how big our group is.
 
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how can you be evil, when that's a learned trait? Now unpredictable, odd, that's socialization or genes, brain malfunctions.
 
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Whatever is the most important identifier to a group...In America i would say it's race then it breaks down to shit like areas of the country, money, neighborhood, religion etc. and there's even more sub-categories in that shit like block, who been to jail, who's college educated, etc.
 
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Ya my whole thing is that there are to many variables, And no numbers or real way to test the percentage this apply's to. Basic underlying instinct can be molded from birth, If there is care and compassion shown a baby will feel and learn from that and actually develop chemicaly different than a baby in an orphanage who is in the crib crying all day with no comfort. The more stressed out Society becomes the more parenting changes.

Study's have shown stress reduces brain cells and changes physiology, we use to get stressed like when zebras were chased by lions but now we have no off switch a zebra after running and getting away goes back to eating grass, we as human are in a corrosive bath of stress hormones all day and night for years Mortgage , traffic jam, Kids, work ect ect

point is humans physiology and behavior change with the times and circumstances and are passed on to our seeds. Hence Heredity and I know some/many piece of shit parents who have passed along more than eye,skin,color but chemistry of nervous system leading to everything from depression, behavior, disease ect

So the question is how many have this so called underlying good at heart internal voice an how many are like the ones I seen at the club two weeks ago stomping on dudes head after he was already KO's with no remorse? To me study apply s to some, Ideally it would apply to all.
 
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who's the female in your sig? you're talking about hood people Roo people that are poor in the west, especially America need separate tests done on them, they have too many factors that need to be factored in.
 
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who's the female in your sig? you're talking about hood people Roo people that are poor in the west, especially America need separate tests done on them, they have too many factors that need to be factored in.

I don't even know her name, just that I like her frame! And ya, Im basically speaking on the Mass amounts of variables. You don't have to be hood to be unhealthy and be a poor parent to pass on bad traits. Maybe in my world I am just around to much negativity but healthy upbringings seem far and in between.

The other day I was at Popyes chicken as two stressed out Russian parents were trying to argue with hate in their eye's their kids were smashing each other in the face crying pulling hair and the parents weren't saying shit just letting them in their stressed out looking lives hurt each other. I was thinking these kids shall have issues.