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Aug 17, 2002
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i wont support a guy who is gonna rely much more on his advisors then oh himself. a puppet governor dont do it for me...
 
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The american dream is built on immigrants. The colonizers of the US were immigrants and basically the US is built from immigrants. The country wouldn't be shit if it weren't for immigrants.

I say, go Prop 187!
 
Apr 25, 2002
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Mcleanhatch said:
ARE YOU AN ILLIGAL ALIEN???

IF YES THEN YOU CANT VOTE ANYWAY.

IF NO THEN PROP 187 HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU, WHY YOU SO UPSET??
LOL...

Its not right to deny health care to a sick child no matter who they are, no matter who their parents might be. Just because I am lucky enough to be a citizen of the US and have health care doesn't mean I forget about those who don't, be them my family or not.
 
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MC_PM$ said:
The american dream is built on immigrants. The colonizers of the US were immigrants and basically the US is built from immigrants. The country wouldn't be shit if it weren't for immigrants.

I say, go Prop 187!
are you familiar with Prop 187? your statement kinda contradicts itself!
 
May 8, 2002
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LMD1510 said:
LOL...Its not right to deny health care to a sick child no matter who they are, no matter who their parents might be
EMERGENCY HAEALTH CARE WASNT PART OF 187. THAT WAS AND ALWAYS WILL BE PROVIDED TO EVERY1.

BUT ALSO ITS NOT RIGHT TO BREAK OUR LAWS AND ENTER THE COUNTRY ILLEGALLY.
 
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LMD1510 said:
are you familiar with Prop 187? your statement kinda contradicts itself!
You're right, my statement does contradict itself. I have read the article on the proposition wrong. I must restate my statment!

HELL NO on Prop. 187

It doesn't make sense that Arnold voted for it, after all he himself is an immigrant.
 
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Here is a section on an article written on Proposition 187 describing how it violates the constitution.
This was obtained at http://ssbb.com/article1.html

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Constitutional Violations

Based on the judge's statement, the written decision/order, when issued in January, will find that much of the statute violates two of the provisions of the Constitution -- (1) the Supremacy Clause,*7 by stepping on ground preempted by federal immigration law; and (2) the Fourteenth Amendment, first, by effectively ordering the deportation of California residents without hearings or other due process of law and, second, by denial of free education to undocumented children, that Amendment's Equal Protection clause.

Proposition 187 prohibits public social services to those who cannot establish their status as a U.S. citizen, a lawful permanent resident, or an ``alien lawfully admitted for a temporary period of time.''*8 Only persons in those categories may receive health-care services from a publicly funded health care facility, ``other than emergency medical care as required by federal law . . . .''*9 Anyone else must be denied the requested services or other benefits, directed in writing to ``either obtain legal status or leave the United States'' and be reported to the authorities, including the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS).

Proposition 187 also limits attendance at public schools to U.S. citizens and to aliens lawfully admitted to the United States for permanent residence or otherwise authorized to be here.*10 The new statute gives school districts until next Jan. 1 to verify the status of pupils and their parents; but whenever they reasonably suspect a violation they have only 45 days to so notify INS and other authorities and to advise parents that schooling will be cut off in 90 days.

The denial of education to children is particularly open to constitutional attack in view of the 1982 Supreme Court decision in Plyler v. Doe.*11 There the Court held that a Texas statute that effectively denied undocumented children a public-school education violated the Fourteenth Amendment's equal protection clause. (School authorities, however, were not called on to identify parents who lacked proper immigration status or to report that fact to INS, a requirement in Proposition 187 that allegedly causes undocumented parents, afraid of being turned in, to withdraw even their U.S. children from school.*12)
 
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all we know arnold as right now is an actor, im interested to hear what he has to say on policies and plans, its interesting, since he isnt a politican by blood.....if ya feel me....i think hes either gonna be really good or really bad, no middle here
 
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NoDollazNoSense said:
all we know arnold as right now is an actor, im interested to hear what he has to say on policies and plans, its interesting, since he isnt a politican by blood.....if ya feel me....i think hes either gonna be really good or really bad, no middle here
I have got some Governator quotes for you that give me faith!

"No one can bribe me, I have a vast amount of wealth"

"I speak directly to the people, and I know that the people of california want to have a better leadership. They want to have somebody that will represent them. And it doesn't matter if you are a democrat or a republican, young or old."

"The only thing Davis knows how to run is a Dirty Campaign"

"I've seen firsthand coming here with empty pockets but full of dreams, full of desire, full of will to succeed, but with the opportunities that I had, I could make it. This is why we have to get back and bring California back to where it once was.''