"US prison figures rise"

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Monday, 26 August, 2002, 13:21 GMT 14:21 UK
US prison figures rise
source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/2217382.stm


Civil rights groups say the prison population is too high

A record 6.6 million people in the United States were either in jail or under community supervision at the end of last year, according to new statistics released by the US Justice Department.
The numbers, which showed an increase of 147,700 from the previous year, now mean a total of one in 32 adults throughout the US is either in jail, on parole or on probation.

Texas had more adults under correctional supervision than any other state, followed by California.

"We're setting a new record every day," said Marc Mauer, assistant director of the Sentencing Project, an advocacy group pushing for alternatives to incarceration.

"The overall figures suggest that we've come to rely on the criminal justice system as a way of responding to social problems in a way that's unprecedented."

While the adult probation population increased by 2.8% during 2001, the number in prison grew by just 1.1%.

Nick Turner, a spokesman for the Vera Institute of Justice, told the Associated Press news agency: "The collection of reforms, from drug courts to treatment in lieu of incarceration to sentence reforms... have the effect of redirecting people from prison to probation."

The figures also showed that:

There has been a decline in arrests for murder, rape and other violent crimes
25% of people on probation were convicted of using illegal drugs and 18% of driving while intoxicated
46% of those in prison were black and 36% were white
Whites accounted for 55% of those on probation, while blacks made up 31%.
 
Aug 6, 2002
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It's said to see this happen. But why do we have to single out the race with percentages. Why can't they be seen all as one. Next there will be a race argument.
 
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the reason that they show the race percentages is to show you that african americans go to the pin more and whites get paroled more is it that hard to see.
for the record i am white
 
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I can see that. That is why I said why do they have to show the race percentages. But why do they have to show that? Is it because african americans get into more trouble than whites? That's why there is more in the pin. See it just causes to many race debates. Just see it as a group of people that chose to do bad and they are being punished for what they did.
 
Jul 7, 2002
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pitty4thebitti said:
....Just see it as a group of people that chose to do bad and they are being punished for what they did.
i don't even think like this, every law against crime, the
minorty always gets hit hard. yea they did bad, but
what is being done to pretend this? nothing. so the same
patterns happen to the poor, uneducated, etc.

"Sixty-five percent of all prisoners are high school dropouts, 70 percent are functionally illiterate, and 63 percent recidivate. We are often tempted to think of China as an oppressive country, but we incarcerate 500,000 more people in this country -- despite the fact that we have less than one-fourth the population of China. We lock up our poor, our uneducated, our unruly, our unstable and our addicted, where other countries provide treatment, mental hospitals and care."

source: http://www.motherjones.com/prisons/liberty.html


dept to society
http://www.motherjones.com/prisons/
 
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"We are often tempted to think of China as an oppressive country, but we incarcerate 500,000 more people in this country -- despite the fact that we have less than one-fourth the population of China. We lock up our poor, our uneducated, our unruly, our unstable and our addicted, where other countries provide treatment, mental hospitals and care."

Ummm.....my sister has been to China. If you think they provide treatment, mental hospitals and care for those people then you have another thing coming...lol. It's just that as well as not providing treatment, mental hospitals and care for the people that may need it they also don't provide jails for the people that need it. They just keep room in their jails for people who want to pratice another religion (i.e. christianity) or not conform to communism.
 
May 2, 2002
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That is why I said why do they have to show the race percentages. But why do they have to show that? Is it because african americans get into more trouble than whites?
maybe, but who knows, the thing that we do know is that whites get lesser sentences and released on parole easier, that is what this shows
 
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maybe, but who knows, the thing that we do know is that whites get lesser sentences and released on parole easier, that is what this shows
It's doesn't show that, it just shows that there are more whites on probation. That doesnt mean that they get released on parole easier. Maybe there crimes weren't as serious as some of the blacks. There is no proof to say whites get paroled easier. Because those percentages don't tell me that.
 
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"In any country, prison is where society sends it's failures
But in this country, society itself is failing"
Ice Cube- What Can I Do? (Remix)
 
May 12, 2002
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IT PAYS TO HAVE MORE PRISONERS IN JAIL
The more people locked up, the more we spend and some people get paid. Keeps jobs and keeps the police demand growing so the dont get laid off.

Second, 2.8% is a shit load when you picture how large that number is to begin with.