Unarmed Teen Shot To Death By Police In St. Louis While His Hands Were Up

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HERESY

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Racial or not, how does burning down people's homes, businesses, and taking away their jobs and livelihoods solve this problem? Easy to say the whole town should get burned when you don't live there. In fact I bet most of the people doing the burning and rioting (not to be confused with protesting) aren't even from Ferguson. They're just completely fucking over the people of Ferguson and making it worse for them.
I think he is talking more about a reboot if you will. And yes, I agree that this is not for the good of the people.

Now, my take on this is simple.

Peaceful route: Do NOT spend money in Ferguson, not even with black businesses. Kill the town financially by going outside of it to purchase goods, gas up, eat, etc. Yes, it's a lifestyle change to a certain degree, and will put you out of a few more bucks but a town suffering that type of hardship will be forced to change. It was reported that the majority of businesses saw a decline in profit over the last couple of months due to having the spots boarded, even though they were open, so you take your money elsewhere. No marching, no sangin in the goddamn worthless church, just a cultural shift and willingness to spend your money in a different place.

Non peaceful route: Go to the police station, courthouse, well off neighborhoods and destroy them. Hit the banks. Cause diversions so the police and other emergency response teams are spread thin and hit the banks for more finances. Have a PLAN before you go and elect leaders who have tactical knowledge. Follow those leaders and do what they tell you. Some may have to die, it's the cost of doing business, but empires have never been built on love and peace, and neither has change, only bloodshed and money. Do not destroy your own neighborhoods, stores, etc. Why? These are essential in case shit hits the fan because they provide resources, shelter and hiding spots. Who knows YOUR neighborhood better than you? The police? Outsiders? No, but if you dumb fucks burn it down then what? Last thing, stay off social media.
 
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maybe for that particular situation, but nah fam it is very much an illusion...

being in the hood & being white will tell you otherwise. You are a black / Mexican the second those red & blue lights pop on, & if you get presented by a public pretender in court, you're a poor classless case & catch second hand treatment.

class war presented otherwise by the media & black 'leaders' like Al Sharpton for further their potential political gain.
I fully disagree. Being white has its advantages big time. Ask any black person, and they will agree. There is a serious stigma in the US about black folks.
 
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Non peaceful route: Go to the police station, courthouse, well off neighborhoods and destroy them. Hit the banks. Cause diversions so the police and other emergency response teams are spread thin and hit the banks for more finances. Have a PLAN before you go and elect leaders who have tactical knowledge. Follow those leaders and do what they tell you. Some may have to die, it's the cost of doing business, but empires have never been built on love and peace, and neither has change, only bloodshed and money. Do not destroy your own neighborhoods, stores, etc. Why? These are essential in case shit hits the fan because they provide resources, shelter and hiding spots. Who knows YOUR neighborhood better than you? The police? Outsiders? No, but if you dumb fucks burn it down then what? Last thing, stay off social media.
boo-yaa
 

S.SAVAGE

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just riot after sports teams win. or lose.
lol ...only whites involved in those riots?

c'mon dawgg, I KNOW you of all people is smarter than that blanket statement.

I don't riot in the streets, period... maybe its a sophistication thing, maybe it's knowing that street riots solve ZERO.

I prefer to call it common sense, but some will name it different things.
 
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And let me say this, This shit is NOT a black and white thing. It may seem like that because we're only dealing with the surface of the problem. This is a problem between the haves and the have nots. Nothing more but because they can keep us divided on race, culture, sexual preference, religion, etc then the gap is going to get larger. They don't give a fuck about Billy Bob from Bumfuck Idaho. Just like they don't give a fuck about Deshawn from Watts. The problem is, people who are underserved have been manipulated by certain people and the cycle continues. The problem is when one group feels powerless they are turned into the victim.

The longer we fight for the crumbs the worse it will get.
While i see where you are going with this, i do believe it is a white and black thing...to an extent. As pointed out by "being white has its advantages". The broad scope would say yes, that there is indeed a class divide. But the racial stuff is more "localized" if that makes sense.

In this case, i do believe its a racial issue...especially in that town. I mean, its not as if cops are paid hundred of thousands of dollars a year.

I think if you surveyed 1000 people, white people, you would find the stereotyping if black people would run along the lines of "thug, scary, lazy, criminals, ignorant". The stigma of black folks just isnt positive.
 

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I fully disagree. Being white has its advantages big time. Ask any black person, and they will agree. There is a serious stigma in the US about black folks.
i agree. but the difference for me is that i do not let it stop my drive. i dont make excuses.
good example. my gfs name is tamieka. she applied for a job user her name and her middle name which is renee. same exact resume, submitted within minutes of each other. she got a rejection email for tamieka for a phone call for her renee application and resume. shit like this. but again do i complain? no not at all. i just know as a black man i have a disadvantage due to my skin color i just have to make it so i do not come off as the stereotype that some people think we are. imo.
 

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& that's your right to disagree.

Being white has its advantages big time.
We are talking about WITH THE LAW.

No, the POLICE, our government, & the national guard when they someday come stomping down the middle of our city streets DON'T GIVE 1 FLYING FUCK about some imaginary white privilege.

We are ALL guilty til proven innocent.

Ask any black person, and they will agree.
I'm sure they would.

There is a serious stigma in the US about black folks.
I am not denying that, but the police dont give a fuck about your color, they got a paycheck to earn & cattle to keep in check.
 

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Being white only has its advantages if you have money. Poor white folks get fucked with too. Oh you didnt know? White people eat their own kind. Especially if you have priors. You might as well have sold out your race, because if you have been convicted, you are no better than the black or the mexican people.
ya apparently that is called our WHITE PRIVILEGE, right? smh

everyone loves to pull the race card because it's historically the easier segue
 

Mac Jesus

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There's multiple systems at play - so you can be a white dude who exists in a society where based on your class/income you get prejudged or treated a certain way but within that system there could be a racial thing going on and within that system is a gender thing and so on and so forth.

I don't articulate myself as well as I could on here but I don't really care much. All I know is that growing up a poor white Canadian I feel thankful that I didn't have to deal with the shit a poor black American might have and I ain't saying that to disparage black people or anything, but it's true.
 

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maybe for that particular situation, but nah fam it is very much an illusion...

being in the hood & being white will tell you otherwise. You are a black / Mexican the second those red & blue lights pop on, & if you get presented by a public pretender in court, you're a poor classless case & catch second hand treatment.

class war presented otherwise by the media & black 'leaders' like Al Sharpton for further their potential political gain.
Ok let me start from the bottom of this one. Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and the naacp are there to exploit and make money. Out of the three I just listed, Sharpton is probably the most "credible" or as close to sincere as one of his kind (manipulator and opportunist) can get, but he is a former FBI informant so you can't trust him period.

Being in the hood, you're no different from anyone else. My hood was multicultural, predominately black but still multi and they (police) treated everyone the same (like shit.) However, that is in the hood. Now put me in the Oakland Hills, Blackhawk, Napa, Eureeka, or any other place around here where there is a shitload of cash, and not too many blacks and mexicans, and I'm seeing the red and blue just as if I were in the hood. It's easier for a white person to be in places where LEGAL money is being made then it is for a black person. That's the major problem.

A white cat can go into a place of business and not have his "story" confirmed 50 times by security, the fat bitch at the desk, the janitor, the assistant to the assitant and the food and beverage guy. Let a black man go in, suit and tie, suitcase in hand and he's jumping through hoops, gettin hit with the Reid Technique and about to revert back to his hood mentality all because he is trying to do the right thing and suffering for it.
 
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& that's your right to disagree.
Thanks

We are talking about WITH THE LAW.
In part, so am i. But i also feel like it depends on where you live in terms of neighborhoods and such.

No, the POLICE, our government, & the national guard when they someday come stomping down the middle of our city streets DON'T GIVE 1 FLYING FUCK about some imaginary white privilege.
Well, this is hypothetical and has not happened, so we cant relevantly come to any conclusion that this would be the case. We can only guesstimate.

We are ALL guilty til proven innocent.
Again, i disagree. I do believe that there are some cases where that is the case, but mostly its not.

I am not denying that, but the police dont give a fuck about your color, they got a paycheck to earn & cattle to keep in check.
I still disagree with this concept as a WHOLE. However, I have heard about "quotas". I dont know if this is for every force or what.
 

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While i see where you are going with this, i do believe it is a white and black thing...to an extent. As pointed out by "being white has its advantages". The broad scope would say yes, that there is indeed a class divide. But the racial stuff is more "localized" if that makes sense.

In this case, i do believe its a racial issue...especially in that town. I mean, its not as if cops are paid hundred of thousands of dollars a year.

I think if you surveyed 1000 people, white people, you would find the stereotyping if black people would run along the lines of "thug, scary, lazy, criminals, ignorant". The stigma of black folks just isnt positive.
It's a white and black thing in the sense that there are still issues in this country between the two groups that have not been resolved and probably won't unless one of several things happen: We suffer an attack or epidemic so devastating it's a wake up call to all of us here. Blacks leave the country. This link happens: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ix2-m1gDX8s

But I wouldn't say that black and white or black vs white is the only problem. Mexicans and blacks have issues. Mexicans and whites and have issues. Asians have issues, etc. Bad race relations is a problem but the root to that problem always ties back to fear and money. Fear that your resources will be taken by this group or that group so you must keep them down.
 

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you're welcome

In part, so am i. But i also feel like it depends on where you live in terms of neighborhoods and such.
exactly, subject-able.

Well, this is hypothetical and has not happened, so we cant relevantly come to any conclusion that this would be the case. We can only guesstimate.
My guesstimate is accurate.


Again, i disagree. I do believe that there are some cases where that is the case, but mostly its not.
see? subjective results result subjectively.


I still disagree with this concept as a WHOLE. However, I have heard about "quotas". I dont know if this is for every force or what.
I've heard about the loch ness monster, but don't believe everything I hear, only what is presented before me.

Getting beat by pigs while not resisting, yet hearing "STOP RESISTING" is only one of those realities presented before me therefore I believe in it wholeheartedly, yet I do not believe in the loch ness monster.