UFC's White: Couture's still mine

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CINCINNATI - Randy Couture's resignation from the Ultimate Fighting Championship isn't being accepted.

UFC president Dana White said Thursday that Couture remains the promotion's heavyweight champion despite his announced plans to quit. White also reiterated he won't release Couture from the final two fights on his UFC contract, which could lead to a legal battle.
"He definitely belongs to me," White said during a news conference promoting Saturday night's UFC 77 pay-per-view show in Cincinnati.

Couture sent White a letter of resignation last week. Couture was disappointed UFC couldn't book a match pitting him against prized heavyweight Fedor Emelianenko, who is signing with another promotion. Couture's salary also has become an issue.

White signed several major stars from the now-defunct PRIDE promotion earlier this year and is believed to have made Emelianenko a lucrative offer. White insisted Thursday that Couture is UFC's second-highest paid fighter behind Chuck Liddell. White, though, admits Couture is skeptical of that claim.

"There's no way I was going to let anybody come in from another organization and make more money or have better deals than my guys who have been with me for a long time and helped me build this business," White said.

White said Couture, who is filming a movie in South Africa, hasn't returned two messages. White blamed the lack of communication on Couture's "Hollywood" representation.

"That's what these maggots do. They're parasites," White said. "They cling onto a guy they think they can make money off of."

Couture's agent, Matt Walker of the Gersh Agency, declined comment.

If Couture is ultimately stripped of his UFC title, White hinted he will crown a new champion by pitting Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira against the winner of Saturday night's Sylvia vs. Brandon Vera bout.

"If the opportunity came, I would want to fight Randy for the title," said Sylvia, who lost the title to Couture in March. "He's done a lot for the sport and I respect him a lot, but what he's doing is up to him. It's not going to affect my fight with Brandon. I have to get by him before I can even think about the title."

The most storied fighter in UFC history, Couture emerged from a year-long retirement in early 2007. Even at age 44, Couture defeated Sylvia and defended his title against Gabriel Gonzaga in August.

With his mixed martial arts career winding down, "The Natural" has branched into acting and other business ventures. While caught off-guard by Couture's negativity toward UFC management, White said he wasn't surprised by Couture's decision to retire again.

"I talked to him a few weeks before (this) and he was feeling like he had nothing else to prove unless he fought Fedor," White said.

The reigning PRIDE champion since 2003, Emelianenko (27-1) hasn't lost in 20 fights while scoring victories over almost all of MMA's top heavyweights. White, though, doesn't have a high opinion of Emelianenko's skills.

"To be honest, I think Randy would smash Fedor," White said. "He'll beat him easily ... Fedor is over-hyped, overrated. The guy hasn't fought anybody in the last year and a half, two years
 

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what a faggot dana is. fedor overhyped? overrated? mothafukka is butthurt because fedor did not sign with the gay ufc LOL. randy who?? lmao

also a big fuck you goes out to the ufc for dissolving pride lol

good thing new organizations in japan are comin out, so it ain't a too big of a deal anyways
 
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what a faggot dana is. fedor overhyped? overrated? mothafukka is butthurt because fedor did not sign with the gay ufc LOL. randy who?? lmao

also a big fuck you goes out to the ufc for dissolving pride lol

good thing new organizations in japan are comin out, so it ain't a too big of a deal anyways
I agree that dana white is a faggot but Randy who? Come on now.
 
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I respect all opinions but why is Dana a fag? He's a super nice guy in real life, VERY good to his fighters, pays better than anyone around, sticks to his word, etc...

Indulge me. And yes, I enjoyed Pride fights as well, but they should have had their shit together, UFC is not to blame for its demise.
 
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Matt Lindland, Mark Hunt, Mark Coleman, Zuluzinho....I agree with Dana, he fought nobodies the last 2 years. Either nobodies, or fighters at the end of their careers.
Mark hunt may not be top ten but he is not a no body and gave fedor problems in their fight.
 
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I respect all opinions but why is Dana a fag? He's a super nice guy in real life, VERY good to his fighters, pays better than anyone around, sticks to his word, etc...

Indulge me. And yes, I enjoyed Pride fights as well, but they should have had their shit together, UFC is not to blame for its demise.
Wise words being quoted....

Mark Hunt is a respectable fighter and is heavily underrated. The guy beat Wanderlei and Mirko and had his fair share of wars in K1.
 
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I respect all opinions but why is Dana a fag? He's a super nice guy in real life, VERY good to his fighters, pays better than anyone around, sticks to his word, etc...

Indulge me. And yes, I enjoyed Pride fights as well, but they should have had their shit together, UFC is not to blame for its demise.
He messed up the Fedor deal, The HBO deal, lied about bring pride back, Randy left because he is not getting payed like he should be, Dana is very unprofessional as ufc president. Heck even Keith jardine who beat chuck liddell only got paid 14,000 for his win.

MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com)has obtained UFC 76 salary figures from the California State Athletic Commission.

UFC 76 took place at the Honda Center in Anaheim, Calif. on Saturday, Sept. 22, and featured Keith Jardine’s upset split-decision victory over Chuck Liddell. Jardine earned $14,000 for the victory, and Liddell earned $500,000 in defeat.

Other top paydays included Mauricio “Shogun” Rua, who earned $150,000 — $106,000 more than Forrest Griffin, who submitted him in the third round. Additionally, Lyoto Machida earned $50,000 for a victory over Kazuhiro Nakamura ($20,000).

The total payroll for the event was $954,000 (though 68 percent of it went to Liddell and Rua).

The full amounts included:

Keith Jardine ($14,000) def. Chuck Liddell ($500,000)
Forrest Griffin ($44,000) def. Mauricio “Shogun” Rua ($150,000)
Jon Fitch ($44,000) def. Diego Sanchez ($22,000)
Lyoto Machida ($50,000) def. Kazuhiro Nakamura ($20,000)
Tyson Griffin ($24,000) def. Thiago Tavares ($9,000)
Rich Clementi ($24,000) def. Anthony Johnson ($5,000)
Jeremy Stephens ($6,000) def. Diego Saraiva ($3,000)
Christian Wellisch ($14,000) def. Scott Junk ($4,000)
Matt Wiman ($16,000) def. Michihiro Omigawa ($5,000)

All of the night’s winning fighters earned 50 percent of their pay to “show” and an additional 50 percent as “win bonuses.” (The only exceptions would have been Liddell, who would not have earned a win bonus, and Rua, whose win bonus would have been $50,000.)

http://mrsunshinevegas.wordpress.com/2007/10/19/keith-jardine-talks-liddell-win-and-ufc-contracts/
 
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Check out the following excerpt from an article featured in The Canadian Press:
White maintains Couture was well compensated with a UFC contract second only to Chuck Liddell.

"Randy Couture is a multimillionaire, don't ever feel sorry for a multimillionaire, OK?" White told a news conference prior to UFC 77. "A lot of these guys are multimillionaires, they make millions and millions of dollars."

Asked about Keith Jardine, who made just US$14,000 for beating Liddell at UFC 76, White said his fighters weren't complaining - noting former champion Rich Franklin may only make $28,000 plus a $28,000 bonus if he beats title-holder Anderson Silva in Saturday night's main event.
 
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56 grand is nothing to sneeze at. These fighters are making tens of thousands of dollars a year to relax most of the day, work out 15-20 hours a week (which most of them would already do on their own).....and actually "work" maybe 15 minutes a month. It's a sweet deal.

Any gaps in revenue, most of them can make up by running a gym, and being able to charge students 200-400+ a month to train with a top fighter. Thats easily another few grand a month or $25k a year, just for being in the UFC period.
 

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Mr. Illmannered said:
I respect all opinions but why is Dana a fag? He's a super nice guy in real life, VERY good to his fighters, pays better than anyone around, sticks to his word, etc...

Indulge me. And yes, I enjoyed Pride fights as well, but they should have had their shit together, UFC is not to blame for its demise.
man, i respect your opinion, too, but you have to understand the dana ideology. most of the time i will give people the benefit of the doubt, but this guy is just wrong on the real. shogun locc answered most of it. however, above everything, dana is a pathological liar. look what they did to pride, for example, they fed us all this pride is here to stay, pride forever, super fights bla bla bla, and then what happened, they dissolved it. it was not their intention to keep pride alive in the first place because ufc will be always the priority. in conclusion, they bought pride to have a larger and better roster. this is all business, i understand, but at least tell us this the first time, and not go around spewing lies with all that gossip. eventually he started making excuses how the japs are hard to deal with, and how pride is a big mess. isn't this hypocritical? if he knew they were dealing with yakuza, why expect the best? i'm just saying, dana can't be trusted.
you should have seen his appearance in japan in front of all the fans he said "ufc is here to kick your ass" LOL what a bitch. now the japs feel betrayed and shit since there is no more pride events; it's over. i agree with you though about the mafia part of business that hurt pride, but even with them, they were hosting events (bankrupt or not). ufc simply destroyed pride, and left with everything they wanted. fuckin scam.

@king spadez.. he's an average fighter. beating tim saliva(jokin) lol and a rather lucky victory against gonzaga is nothing to brag about.

also, since when is somebody judged based on the last two years lol? fedor has fought the best over his career and never lost(ok, i'm not taking that bullshit cut into context). if anybody, randy is the one who is overrated. man, mark hunt would decapitate him lmao (a nobody to some lol)
 
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@king spadez.. he's an average fighter. beating tim saliva(jokin) lol and a rather lucky victory against gonzaga is nothing to brag about.
how was it a lucky victory over Gonzaga. He dominated him even with a broken arm
 

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not completely luck, no, randy is a tough motherfucker, but when he headbutted gonzaga, it was clear gonzaga could not continue with a cut where blood was pouring at will. up until then, it was anybodies fight. i still give him credit for that fight, even if it was ugly.
 
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without dana we wouldnt even have topics about the ufc in this sports forum...dana made the ufc what it is today regardless of how he handles buisness....shady or not...it is what it is.....
 
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56 grand is nothing to sneeze at. These fighters are making tens of thousands of dollars a year to relax most of the day, work out 15-20 hours a week (which most of them would already do on their own).....and actually "work" maybe 15 minutes a month. It's a sweet deal.

Any gaps in revenue, most of them can make up by running a gym, and being able to charge students 200-400+ a month to train with a top fighter. Thats easily another few grand a month or $25k a year, just for being in the UFC period.
Training almost everyday, and competing at the level of these fighters is NOT easy. Besides that point, the UFC is making huge amounts of revenue, and only a small fraction of that is going to the people who put their health on the line to make that possible. I could understand the UFC giving out low pay back when they weren't big, but the company has exploded and its only fair that they pay their top stars top dollar.

Randy is taking a stand and putting the fighter ahead of the organization. As the years go on we are going to see the fighters have more control over their career due to the willingness of other investors looking to tap into the MMA craze. Hopefully this will result in cross promoting and the prospect of superfights.
 
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not completely luck, no, randy is a tough motherfucker, but when he headbutted gonzaga, it was clear gonzaga could not continue with a cut where blood was pouring at will. up until then, it was anybodies fight. i still give him credit for that fight, even if it was ugly.
Re watch the fight. Couture's head didn't collide with Gonzaga's nose, it was Gonzaga's own knee. Had he not grabbed the cage during the take down attempt his legs would have not elevated that high over his head and would have not flopped over on him.
 

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actually, people like chuck earn way more than the 500'000 you saw. from a person close to chuck, i've heard he makes about 3 million in total after a fight.