?uestlove "FucK Hip Hop"

[28g w/o the bag]

As taken from his official site: http://www.okayplayer.com/dcforum/lesson/89071.html#17



i take this em episode as serious as i take santa or the easter bunny.

you are being hoodwinked and bamboozled if you really think these mofos care about the "hip hop nation". this ain't about "the hip hop nation being outraged" this is about "we got the last word, checkmate!"

my steeze is i don't condone abuse or bad talking (unprovoked) to anybody. i don't even stand for that shit on my own site. so on the real i see it on a deeper level.

mofos can cry "uncle tom" all they want--but niggas hate themselves so cot damn much that they will allow a nigga to same shit to a black woman, but will cry foul if a white boy does it?

i'm on some mooney shit. i get along with white folks just fine, but if you really think that a white person has lived their entire life "nigga" free? on some "can't we just all get along shit? then you my friend are a fool.

not saying i believe the worst in white people. but i wouldn't be surprised. i mean---i could get on some shit about colonialism and slavery and 2 holocausts and pretty much every major war and crimes against humanity in the past 2000 years....but what's the fucking point?

where were the cries when ice cube said to "kick that bitch in the tummy"?

jay z is a multi multi millionare from an empire that was seeded on the death and destruction of his own people---but were nigga's crying?

i'm sure that every last person has uttered the words "ALL YOU BITCHES CRAWL" in the past 4 months.

i said that remark with much sarcasm. cause at the end of the day--mofo's aint gonna put dead prez or kweli or someone of quality on the cover.

THAT IS HOW YOU RESPOND TO THIS SITUATION.

you feel hip hop is being poisoned? well bring the cure--

expose acts that are doing something for the people (and this aint no pro roots shit either---cause we PC don't mean shit--) im certain the EM will be on the next cover.

why?

the same reason 50 was on the cover---

why?

the same reason dre will make the cover when detox hits--

mofos need these artists to sell magazines.


that's all.


i'm a former subscriber of the source. both EM covers (which are their biggest sellers) came with some benzino related promo item (cd, poster, etc)---so niggas know what time it is---

this is about selling magazines. not about "concern with the hip hop nation".


so if the hip hop bible ain't taking hip hop seriously---then why should i?


if the hip hop nation stops one crime out of the 3,994,239,238 crimes that were commited to our women, children, and brothers (other people too) then does that look like "concern" to me or bandwagoning?


it looks like mofo's done took hip hop, craddled her, let her stay up past bedtime, overloaded on sugar, looked in family photo books at momma (soul) and grandma (jazz), and great grandma (blues)--straight laughing at them hoes with no respect---"look how bad they look--that shit will never be me-BLAMO!!!---now it's too late to turn back. hip hop had some pride, education, and direction. got good grades in high school.....

now look at her....---bitch got a mickey slipped, and she got gang raped. mofo's busted a nut in her eye, and throat. fisted her in the ass--7 way sexed her (nose, ears, mouth, ass and pussy---and if this sounds ugly and nasty and brutal? fuck you----you let it happen.....all of us watched this girl get shitted on, pissed on, and raped in an all male prison---


and now we walking up to her to offer what?


a band aid?


fuck hip hop---told y'all last year i was cheating on her by getting this other jawn pregnant.


why should i even care---

if y'all don't?

 

[Jason_Haft]

yup..

 

[Droopy Eye]

Eminem, Racism & Hip-Hop
By Davey D, November 24, 2003

Eminem? Who gives a fuck? I’ve always assumed that “nigga” leaves his lips often behind closed doors anyway - 10-year-old tape or not. Shame on hip-hop for bein’ suckered by the hype. In general I make it a rule of thumb not to comment on other artists. What we need to focus on instead is the bigger picture. The entire industry now seems to be built on the degradation of black women and the pimping of our culture. The Source is just as guilty of this as Em and a host of others. BET, MTV, Innerscope, Def Jam, Aftermath, So So Def, Murder Inc., Tha Row, Bad Boy, Clear Channel, Viacom - pick one - they’re ALL guilty. All this negative fake gangsta wanna be pimp-Gotti bullshit is as phony as it gets - especially in an industry that supposed to pride itself on “keepin’ it real.” Don’t focus on what this white boy said when niggas clown black women all of the time. Focus on ALL of these sorry ass artists and the white labels that profit by giving them a voice.
-Paris

This morning, I had an opportunity to peep the song by Eminem in which he makes some extremely disparaging remarks about Black women. To say the least, what he said, whether or not he was 16 or 21, as the Source Magazine claims, is indefensible. He should own up to it and apologize.

He should do it, not because Dave Mays, Benzino and The Source are pressuring him. He shouldn't apologize because of all the negative publicity that may erode some of his fan base and market share. He shouldn't apologize because Interscope Records, XXL, Rollingstone, Radio and video outlets that play his music, Dr. Dre and any other person or institution financially connected to Em will be questioned about their judgment or lack thereof. He should apologize because what he said was offensive and hurtful.

And while, I understand, he may have been hurting himself when he made his songs, he still should apologize. As far as I'm concerned Black women deserve to hear that. If Em does do that and he is as sincere and forthcoming with his feelings as he is in his other songs, he will be several steps ahead of a whole lot of people who dis Black women and support the dissing of Black women everyday.

For example, notice, how MTV never apologized for inviting Snoop Dogg to come on their awards show holding sistas strapped to dog leashes. That image was shown all over the world. Nor did MTV apologize for 50 Cent coming on stage with a cadre of real life pimps-which was also shown around the world. Notice how BET never apologized for that offensive stereotypical cartoon Cita? Has Bob Johnson ever apologized for the hours of videos depicting gyrating women who get beer poured on them in videos.

To my knowledge no major radio conglomerate - from Clear Channel to Radio One - has gone on record to publicly apologize for the hours upon hours of music they play that regularly degrades Black women. The words 'Ho' and 'Bitch' - which was once peeped out from songs - is heard so much that it is now left in for all to hear on the record labels official 'radio edits'.

To my knowledge no major radio outlet or video outlet for that matter has apologized for the hours upon hours of airtime they have granted to artists who have inflicted physical abuse upon Black women. We still hear R. Kelly songs, Ike Turner is lauded as a musical genius, and Rick James is a staple on your oldies station. Dr Dre is a Hip Hop icon.

Here in Cali, Sugar Free who candidly admits to his pimping background and makes no bones about returning to the game if need be gets played all the time. Alongside Sugar Free are scores of wanna be pimps ranging from Nick Cannon to Nelly. Pimping sistas is big business in the music biz nowadays and I'm not quite sure which is more offensive, Eminem's racist song or the predominantly white media executives who give the final green light as to what gets played and doesn't get played to the masses via mainstream media outlets.

All I know is that not only is anyone NOT apologizing to sistas, very few are making a concerted effort to curtail this bad behavior or even offer a balanced perspective. I'm still running into artists who are frustrated because their music is being pushed to the side by non-black program and music directors as well as a few black folks who bought into the nonsense that in order to be hip and happening in 2003, you have to be gully and keep your music pimpish. I say we use this situation involving Eminem to end the daily barrage of offensive material depicting Black women.

I'm saying all this because I think it’s important that we don't lose sight of the bigger picture. Let's not get sidetracked by a discussion around Eminem who basically said what Black artist say everyday in their music. Black women have become 'whores', 'gold diggers', 'bitches' and every other negative stereotype in our entertainment. Let’s focus on those powerful folks behind the scenes who call the shots. These are the same media folks who allow a two hour discussion about Eminem, complete with interviews from the Source owners Dave Mays and Benzino and an airing of the song during morning and evening drive time, but will shut the discussion down when the topic turns to questioning our involvement in the war, the Partriot Act, police brutality or the difference in treatment and amount of attention paid to white ‘war hero’ Jessica Lynch and Black ‘war hero' Soshana Johnson. Heck radio stations in LA that are knee deep in the discussion about Eminem couldn’t hold equally compelling discussions when Daz, WC, RBX and numerous other ‘gangsta’ rappers came together to do an anti-war song. In fact some stations like KKBT instructed their listeners to remove the song from the airwaves.

As we think about some these things, we should also pay close attention to how this plays out and see what sort of double standards emerge. To this day Chuck D and Public Enemy are still getting flack for statements made by Professor Griff over 10 years ago which were deemed anti-semitic. There was never any forgiveness. Cypress Hill saw their records get banned by Bay Area radio stations after one of the members of an opening act to their tour 10 years ago asked a San Francisco audience ‘if they were men or fags’. Def Jeff found himself shut out from doing nightclubs when he shouted ‘all the people with aids be quiet!’. The list goes on. Will Eminem’s offensive remarks be overlooked and forgiven? Will radio stations stop playing his songs? Will his videos be banned? If Em’s callous remarks from 10 years can be forgiven will we finally forgive Public Enemy or even Jessie Jackson for racially insensitive statements they made 10 and 20 years ago? Will Bill O’Reilly, who often expresses his concern about the divisive and offensive aspect of rapper's material, lead the charge to boycott Eminem? Will he instruct all those working class viewers to boycott Eminem like he did with Ludacris? We can’t have it both ways.

If the issue is really about Em making disparaging remarks about Black women, will all of us in Hip Hop challenge ourselves and demand apologies from every artist who disses Black women? Will we hold their feet to the fire? Will we finally end the mass pimping that dominates the game right now? Better yet, forget the artists - will those of us who can decide what to play or not to play stop playing this offensive material? Maybe it’s me, but after hearing one on-air discussion about Eminem and his offensive behavior toward Black women, a few minutes later I heard an R. Kelly song. I kept thinking to myself, didn’t he pee on an underage black woman in a child porno video?

Something to think about...



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Great article. ^


Also :

The Source, April 2000, excerpt from interview with Dead Prez :

"Five-percent Brooklynite snatches the mic... ....he fires the second, a little rap he just wrote: "It ain't no woman like an african woman, 'cause WHITE STANK BITCHES AIN'T SHIT!"."

Hmmmmm........

 

[Dr. Curien]

WHo really cares if Eminem says Nigga or not, It really doesnt matter.

Epidemic

 

[The Duke of Earl]

i thought he said nigger not nigga

 

[Ethereal]

Both of those meade for a good read. I'm not a big DaveyD fan, but that is something I enjoyed. It is no wonder that this thread lacks the presence of those who thought they knew what was really going on racially in the music biz. Damn, got me shakin my head at these kids again. Good post 2%.

 

[m.w.merlino]

it was 10 years ago, it doesnt....MATTER...ANYMORE, fuckin people are retarded IMO if they worry about this, what racism are they stoppin by talkin shit about EM for somethin he said 10 FUCKIN YEARS AGO, you bitches are playin right into benzinos BULLSHIT, you think he wouldve given a fuck about this tape if EM never completely killed him wit Nail in the coffin? benzinos on some bitch shit tryin to incriminate a 17 year old eminem with some gay shit, anyone fallin for the act is just as bitch as him, or atleast as stupid

 

[Ethereal]

Their (those airing and ranting on behalf of this tape) using it so they can cleanse their culture of filth. They got this tape and now their going to run with it as far as they can go, until they realize no one gives a dirty rat's shit about what he said when he was 17 years old. They hate that a white man is succeeding in this game. People won't care because there are too many black people expressing hatred towards white's in their music.. and so on... and so forth.