U.S. Troops Kill 7 Iraqi Women, Children

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http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle....GD3G2GCRBAELCFFA?type=topNews&storyID=2482254

U.S. Troops Kill 7 Iraqi Women, Children
Mon March 31, 2003 06:53 PM ET

By Khaled Yacoub Oweis
BAGHDAD (Reuters) - U.S. forces pounded Republican Guard units around Baghdad from the ground and the air on Monday, but also killed seven Iraqi women and children in an incident certain to fuel anti-American sentiment in the Arab world and elsewhere.

The U.S. Central Command acknowledged firing on a vehicle near the central city of Najaf after its driver ignored orders to stop and a warning shot.

"As a last resort the soldiers fired into the passenger compartment of the vehicle. Inside the vehicle they found 13 women and children. Seven of the occupants were dead. Two were wounded. Four were unharmed," a spokesman said.

The United States, which says it is fighting to liberate Iraqis from the rule of President Saddam Hussein, has tried hard to avoid civilian casualties. But soldiers' nerves are stretched thin since a suicide attack killed four U.S. soldiers on Saturday.

President Bush, speaking in Philadelphia, told Iraqis: "We are coming with a mighty force to end the rule of your oppressors ... We will not stop, we will not relent until your country is free."

On the military front, since charging through hundreds of miles of Iraqi territory in the first days of the 12-day-old war, U.S. invasion units have been consolidating supply lines, carrying out equipment maintenance and resupply and probing Republican Guard brigades who stand between them and Baghdad.

"We're coming. Where the regime is, we're coming," Brig. Gen. Vincent Brooks said at U.S. Central Command in Qatar, adding that some elite Iraqi units were in serious difficulty after days of relentless attacks from an enemy that now has complete air dominance. There are now 100,000 U.S. and British troops inside Iraq.

However, Gen. Richard Myers, head of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff, said there was no rush to storm Baghdad. "We'll be patient," he said in Washington.

PREPARED FOR HIGH PRICE

The United States had hoped to avoid street fighting in Baghdad that could cause heavy military and civilian casualties but that seems increasingly likely. One senior official of the U.S. Central Command said the military was ready to pay a "very high price" in terms of casualties to take the city.

"We're prepared to pay a very high price because we are not going to do anything other than ensure that this regime goes away," the official said. "If that means there will be a lot of casualties, then there will be a lot of casualties."

Bush, backed by Britain, launched the war to eliminate Saddam and seize his alleged weapons of mass destruction under a policy that advocates preemptive attacks should Washington feel its national security is threatened.

Iraq said it had no such weapons and invasion troops have so far failed to find any.

Iraq remained defiant. Iraqi television showed film of Saddam alongside his two sons. It was the first time that his eldest son Uday had been seen on video since the war opened on March 20, but it was not clear when the footage was taken.

Several huge explosions shook the center of Baghdad in the afternoon. One hit a presidential palace used by Saddam's second son Qusay, who commands the Republican Guard, sending a mushroom of white smoke from the battered complex. More huge explosions followed in the early evening.

Flames could be seen rising into the night from one of the blasts which rocked the central Palestine Hotel.

"It is very frightening. There is a lot of panic. I can hear people shouting and screaming in the street below" the hotel," said Reuters correspondent Samia Nakhoul.

Another explosion came from the headquarters of the Iraqi Olympic Committee, headed by Saddam's son Uday.

The Pentagon said the United States had fired 700 Tomahawk cruise missiles and 8,000 precision-guided munitions at Iraqi targets since the war began, 3,000 in the past three days. It flew 1,000 air sorties in the past 24 hours alone.

U.S. officers said Iraqi militia and Republican Guard units suffered heavy losses in fierce fighting near the towns of Hindiya and Hilla on the approaches to Baghdad. At least one American soldier died in the daylong clashes. The Republican Guard constitute some of Saddam's best trained, toughest and most loyal defenders.

QUAGMIRE

Iraqi Foreign Minister Naji Sabri said invaders were sinking into a quagmire and would take greater losses with each passing day.

The death of a U.S. soldier near Hilla raised the U.S. toll in the war to at least 46 with another 17 missing. Britain has lost 25 dead, one more than in the 1991 Gulf War.

Iraq has said nearly 600 Iraqi civilians have been killed and over 4,500 wounded. It has not listed military casualties.

U.S. Marines raided the town of Shatra north of the key city of Nassiriya on Monday. Hundreds of Iraqis shouting "Welcome to Iraq" greeted them as they entered the town.

Reuters correspondent Sean Maguire, traveling with the Marines, said they were targeting Iraqi officials, including Ali Hassan al-Majid, or "Chemical Ali," a feared cousin of Saddam, earned his nickname for overseeing the use of poison gas against Kurds in 1988. But they did not find him.

With humanitarian aid just starting to trickle into Iraq, British troops opened the taps on a hastily built water pipeline in the southern port of Umm Qasr -- one of the few Iraqi towns the invasion force controls. But aid workers in Kuwait said it was still too dangerous for them to enter Iraq.
 
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I knew it was only a matter of time before someone brought this up....look here a couple days ago a Iraqi soldier dressed in Civilian clothes, driving a Taxi drove up to a road block check point and blew himself up killing 4 American Soldiers. They have been being very cautious now. when a van drove up the soldiers asked them to stop, but the van did not stop, they shot warning shots at the ground in front of the Van, it didn't stop, they then shot the engine of the van, it still did not stop, so as a LAST resort, they fired into the cab. Unfortunatly the Van was full of about 15 or so Women and Childeren hidden in the back. The soldiers did not intentionally kill the women and children. The soldiers did every thing they could do 2 not have 2 shoot, but the driver did not stop. It is a very tragic thing, any loss of life of an innocent person is horrible. There were signs In arabic, as well as a loud horn projecting a message in arabic saying stop 2 be searched.
 
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Soldiers killing soldiers is one thing.

Soldiers killing civilians is something totally different.


And fuck all yall that try and justify the killing of innocent people. That's a real sick thing of you to try and do. You need to seriously check yourselves for saying shit like that.

You make me sick :(
 
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I knew it was only a matter of time before someone brought this up....look here a couple days ago a Iraqi soldier dressed in Civilian clothes, driving a Taxi drove up to a road block check point and blew himself up killing 4 American Soldiers. They have been being very cautious now. when a van drove up the soldiers asked them to stop, but the van did not stop, they shot warning shots at the ground in front of the Van, it didn't stop, they then shot the engine of the van, it still did not stop, so as a LAST resort, they fired into the cab. Unfortunatly the Van was full of about 15 or so Women and Childeren hidden in the back. The soldiers did not intentionally kill the women and children. The soldiers did every thing they could do 2 not have 2 shoot, but the driver did not stop. It is a very tragic thing, any loss of life of an innocent person is horrible. There were signs In arabic, as well as a loud horn projecting a message in arabic saying stop 2 be searched.
a reporter from the washington post gave a different account
to the story, "William Branigin, who was with the soldiers. He said the troops opened fire fatally on the advancing car because they did not fire a warning shot soon enough."
source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,927148,00.html
 
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Maybe you shouldn't try and run a military checkpoint and ignore warning shots, then ignore shots aimed DIRECTLY at your car. We dropped enough bullshit over there so that close to 10,000 soldiers and thousands more civilians managed to give up properly.

I gaurantee if that same car was ignoring an Iraqi checkpoint, it wouldn't have even been ALLOWED a warning shot. Fuck, they probably would have thrown a bomb in the trunk and told them to drive to an allied base, or get shot.

I guess you guys either didn't hear about that, or just choose to ignore it.
 
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Oh, and what a coincidence that the one vehicle that doesn't obey the checkpoint, just happens to be filled with women and children....

Ok...
 
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The Bo$$ Hogg said:
when a van drove up the soldiers asked them to stop, but the van did not stop, they shot warning shots at the ground in front of the Van, it didn't stop, they then shot the engine of the van, it still did not stop, so as a LAST resort, they fired into the cab.
ITS KIND OF STRANGE THAT IN THE ENTIRE ARTICLE THAT THIS THREAD WAS BASED ON, NOT ONCE DID IT MENTION ALL OF THESE WARNINGS.

I TOO HEARD ABOUT ALL OF THESE WARNINGS FROM SEVERAL SOURCES. I GUESS THIS GUY COULD HAVE JUST ACCIDENTLY FORGOTTEN TO MENTION MULTIPLE WARNINGS ISSUED TO THEM.

GOOD LOOKING OUT FOR THE BULLSHIT BO$$ HOGG
 
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And fuck all yall that try and justify the killing of innocent people. That's a real sick thing of you to try and do. You need to seriously check yourselves for saying shit like that.

You make me sick :(
you mean like the way you and the rest of the anti-war crowd justify Sadam killing the millions of people he has, justify Al-Quida and the Taliban by trying to stop us from going to Afganistan.
 

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you mean like the way you and the rest of the anti-war crowd justify Sadam killing the millions of people he has, justify Al-Quida and the Taliban by trying to stop us from going to Afganistan.
YEAH JUST LIKE HOW YOU JUSTIFY SANCTIONS THAT KILLED OVER 1.5 MILLION IRAQIS. WAY MORE THAN SADDAM HAS SAID TO HAVE KILLED.


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YEAH JUST LIKE HOW YOU JUSTIFY SANCTIONS THAT KILLED OVER 1.5 MILLION IRAQIS. WAY MORE THAN SADDAM HAS SAID TO HAVE KILLED.:h:
if Sadam only did as he agreed to do and disarm sanctions would never have been enacted, if still he at anytime within the last 12 years he decided to disarm like he agreed to do the sanctions could have easily been lifted. so dont try and blame the sanction on us. becaused that shit is on Sadam, it was simple disarm=no sanctions
 

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^^^CAN YOU PLEASE INFORM ME OF THE RESOLUTION OR ANY OTHER DOCUMENT THAT STATES THAT IF SADDAM DOES NOT COMPLY HE IS SUBJECTED TO THE USE OF FORCE?


SO LETS PLACE THE SANCTIONS ON SADDAM. FOR 11 OR SO YEARS HE DIDNT COMPLY(ACCORDING TO YOU). DID IT TAKE OVER 1.5 MILLION DEATHS TO WAKE YOU UP AND DECIDE THAT HE WAS NOT GOING TO COMPLY? YOU SAT AND WATCHED CHILDREN DIE BECAUSE OF ONE MANS REFUSAL? YOU SAY YOU WANT TO LIBERATE THE PEOPLE YET YOUR SANCTIONS KILLED THEM?

NOW YOU MENTIONED THAT SADDAM FAILED TO DISARM.

1.WHAT DID HE HAVE THAT HE SHOULD NOT HAVE HAD?

2.WHERE DID HE KEEP WHAT HE SHOULD NOT HAVE HAD?

3.WHERE DID HE GET IT FROM?

4.WHO FOUND WEAPONS?


STOP BEATING AROUND THE BUSH. EVERYTIME YOU ARE ASKED SIMILAR QUESTIONS YOU DO THE FOLLOWING:

1.IGNORE IT

2.DANCE AROUND IT (IGNORE IT)

3.LEAVE THE THREAD ENTIRELY (IGNORE IT)


SO I ASK YOU AGAIN

WHERE ARE THESE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION?

WHEN WERE THEY FOUND?

WHO FOUND THEM?

WHO REPORTED THE FINSING TO THE UN?

WHAT WERE THE WEAPONS MADE OF?


IF YOU CANNOT ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS *YOUR* CLAIM THAT SANCTIONS WERE PLACED ON IRAQ BECAUSE OF REFUSAL TO DISARM ARE UNWWARRENTED AND BASICALLY BULLSHIT.

WHY IS IT THAT WEAPONS INSPECTORS SAID NO WMD WERE FOUND?????


ANSWER THE QUESTIONS.


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