U.S. Supreme Court OKs no-knock searches

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U.S. Supreme Court OKs no-knock searches
By Gina Holland
The Associated Press

WASHINGTON – The Supreme Court ruled today that police armed with a warrant can enter homes and seize evidence even if they don't knock — a huge government victory that was decided by President Bush's new justices.

The 5-4 ruling signals the court's conservative shift following the departure of moderate Sandra Day O'Connor.

The case tested previous court rulings that police armed with warrants generally must knock and announce themselves or they run afoul of the Constitution's Fourth Amendment ban on unreasonable searches.

Justice Antonin Scalia, writing for the majority, said Detroit police acknowledge violating that rule when they called out their presence at a man's door then went inside three seconds to five seconds later.

"Whether that preliminary misstep had occurred or not, the police would have executed the warrant they had obtained, and would have discovered the gun and drugs inside the house," Scalia wrote.

But suppressing evidence is too high of a penalty, Scalia said, for errors by police in failing to properly announce themselves.

The outcome might have been different if O'Connor were still on the bench. She seemed ready, when the case was first argued in January, to rule in favor of Booker Hudson, whose house was searched in 1998.

O'Connor had worried aloud that officers around the country might start bursting into homes to execute search warrants. She asked: "Is there no policy of protecting the home owner a little bit and the sanctity of the home from this immediate entry?"

She retired before the case was decided, and a new argument was held so that Justice Samuel Alito could participate in deliberations. Alito and Bush's other Supreme Court pick, Chief Justice John Roberts, both supported Scalia's opinion.

Hudson's lawyers argued that evidence against him was connected to the improper search and could not be used against him.

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Scalia said that a victory for Hudson would have given "a get-out-of-jail-free card" to him and others.

In a dissent, four justices complained that the decision erases more than 90 years of Supreme Court precedent.

"It weakens, perhaps destroys, much of the practical value of the Constitution's knock-and-announce protection," Justice Stephen Breyer wrote for himself and the three other liberal members.

Breyer said that police will feel free to enter homes without knocking and waiting a short time if they know that there is no punishment for it.

Justice Anthony M. Kennedy, a moderate, joined the conservatives in most of the ruling. He wrote his own opinion, however, to say "it bears repeating that it is a serious matter if law enforcement officers violate the sanctity of the home by ignoring the requisites of lawful entry."

The case is Hudson v. Michigan, 04-1360.
 
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To me this isn't as big of news as most would think. Now I'm not saying this is in anyway good. But ever since the constitution shredding 'Pariot Act' was passed police and feds have had the right to enter your house to plant listening devices ('bugs') and plant keylogging/tracking ('rootkits') software on your computer WITHOUT your knowledge and circumventing the 4th amendment. All they need to do to do this is go to a judge and say your a terrorist (no actual evidence needed). Oh and if its a business or say they need to access your roommate/spouse/etc you cannot tell anyone under penaltiy of arrest yourself.

But all these ILLEGAL wiretaps/searches/monitoring/etc is designed for two things, neither of which is to catch "terrorists", "criminals" or whomever the booegyman of the week is. 1. Condition the public to being surveiled 24/7 and to accept the loss of privacy. 2. Instill a fear to talk to others about the injustices of the government or dissent against the "offical" government stance.
 

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It's the swing from liberty/freedom to security....Only problem is, I don't want the gov't securing my life, cause then I won't have a life. Fuck em....

And sorry about the repost.
 

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Everyday your rights will diminish til you basically have no rights. What is alarming about this is both sides are in danger. You ALWAYS here about police raiding the WRONG home in search of suspects. What if they raid a home, don't knock and get shot in the process?
 

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I thought that they invented guns so that the government wouldnt have to protect us?

If a terrorist comes to my house, he'll get shot. No need for the government to waste a few billion dollars to keep me safe.
 
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Stealth said:
I thought that they invented guns so that the government wouldnt have to protect us?
Almost correct. They invented guns so citizens could protect themselves from the government.

Stealth said:
If a terrorist comes to my house, he'll get shot. No need for the government to waste a few billion dollars to keep me safe.
What about when the police come kicking in your door to illegally grab your guns? Don't say it won't happen. They already started to do it in New Orleans after Katrina.

They've also started to replace/supplemant police w/ defense contractors (mercenaries). If you thought regular police can be bad just wait when most of them are mercenaries.