U.S. kills 3,197 people on September 11th

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30th anniversary of Chile coup



At about 0600 on 11 September 1973, Chilean President Salvador Allende awoke to the news that his own navy had turned against him. Within hours the presidential palace was in flames and Allende was dead.

That September 11, in 1973, also saw planes flying low over a country's largest city, leaving one of its most important buildings in flames and its people in a state of shock. But in Chile it was the bombing of the La Moneda presidential palace, where the elected president, Salvador Allende, died. The attack inaugurated a bloodbath from which Chile has yet to recover.

Ironically, the official death toll in the Chilean coup—3,197—is almost identical to the number killed on September 11, 2001 in the US. Several hundred were machine-gunned in the Santiago soccer stadium, which was turned into a makeshift concentration camp and torture center. Others were shot to death in the street, at military barracks and in other detention centers, many after enduing horrific torture. All told, more than 60,000 Chileans were subjected to torture under the dictatorship, and one million were forced into exile: this in a country of less than 14 million.

That many Chileans, while understanding the pain of those who lost relatives in the US, find it difficult to solidarize themselves with Washington is understandable. The Chilean coup was sponsored by Washington and the Central Intelligence Agency, which funneled millions of dollars to both the military and right-wing groups to overthrow the country’s elected government.

President Richard Nixon and his top foreign policy adviser, Henry Kissinger, played direct roles in orchestrating the military overthrow. The latter had famously remarked, "I don’t see why we need to stand by and watch a country go communist because of the irresponsibility of its own people."

Washington continued its backing for the dictatorship of General Augusto Pinochet, with the CIA providing lists of suspected "subversives" to be exterminated. American aid helped the mass murderer stay in power longer than any other Latin American military ruler.

 
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http://coldbloodedthecb.homestead.com/files/Salvador_Allende.mp3

^^^^ Right Clik and Download to listen

Above is the actual radio broadcast of Allede's last public words. Below is a rough english translation.

It's quite moving to read along as you listen.


"My friends, this will be the last time that I could speak to you. The Air Force has bombarded the towers of radio Portales and radio Corporacion. My words have not bitterness, but disappointment, and they will be the moral punishment to those who has betrayed the swear that has did it...soldiers of Chile, In Chief Commanders, the Admiral Merino that has been selfdesigned, but mister Mendoza, general despicable that just yesterday state his fidelity and loyalty to the government, has also self nominated General Director of Carabineros (Police)".

"Before these facts, I just can say to the workers: I will not renounce. Being located in an historical juncture, I will pay with my life the loyalty of the people. And I say to you, that I have the certainty, that the seed that we delivered to the dignous conscious of thousands and thousands of Chileans, will not can be mowed definitively".

"The have the strength. They could dominate us. But the social processes will not be stopped neither with the force nor the crime. The history is ours and is made by the people".

"Workers of my fatherland, I am grateful by the loyalty that you always had. The trust that you deposit in a man that only was interpreter of greatest eagers of justice. That gave his word in that respect the constitution and the law, and so he did it. In this definitive moment, the last that I could refer to you, I want that you learn the lesson. The foreign capital, the imperialism, united to the reaction, created the climate for the Military Forces to broke their tradition, that has been taught by Schneider and reaffirmed by the commander Araya, victims of the same social sector that today will be in their houses, waiting with somebody else's hand re-conquer the power to keep defending their profits and privileges".

"I speak, above all, to the modest woman of our land, to the peasant that believed in us, to the laborer that work harder, to the mother that know about our concern by the children".

"I speak to the fatherland professionals, to the patriotic professionals, to they who since days ago were working against the sedition sponsored by the Professional Associations, associations of class to defend the advantages of a capitalist society that gave to a few ones".

"I speak to the youth, to those who sang, gave their happiness and fighting spirit. I speak to the man of Chile, to the worker, the peasant, the intellectual, to those who will be pursued...because in our country the fascism has been since many hours ago present, in the terrorist outrages, blowing up bridges, cutting the railways, destroying the oil and gas pipelines, in front of the silence of those who have the obligation to proceed: they were obliged. The history will judge them".

"Certainty, radio Magallanes will be silenced and the quiet metal of my voice will not reach you. It does not matter. You will keep hearing it. I will always be with you. At least, my legacy will be of a worthy man, that was loyal to the loyalty of the workers".

"The people knows how to defend him self, but must no sacrifice him. The people must no let him raze to the ground, neither riddle with bullets; but neither degrade him".

"Workers of my fatherland: I have faith in Chile and his fate. Other men will surpass this moment shade and bitter, where the betray pretends prevail. You must keep knowing that, more earlier than later, the large avenues where the free man will pass, to build a better society".

"¡Viva Chile!, ¡Viva el pueblo!, ¡Vivan los trabajadores!. These are my last words and I have the certainty that my sacrifice will not be in vain. I have the certainty that, at least, will be a moral lesson that will punish the felony, the cowardliness and the betray".


 
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Damn thats fucked up even at the end you hear him blowing up or geting shot or something.. ...

I know I don't like how america dose things ...but This right here is real fucked up.. but even if I dont like how they do things I would rather live here then anywhere else.
 
Mar 18, 2003
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You guys look past the slaughter of innocent Americans to find something that happened over 30 years ago in another country? R.I.P. to all the people killed on that day but, why mourn one over the other? Why be saddened by the events in that country (when you know absolutely nobody living there) and turn your back on the events that took place in the country you live in. I want to offer advice to you "Anti-Americans", if your going to run about laughing at this country when it faces horror, you might want to research why all of these things happened because, one of these days your going to come face to face with someone who actually knows what there talking about, and I promise, the conversation will not go your way. I don't want to hear "I do my research", because I have read enough to know, you only research what benefits you.

SGC~CEO said:
sad thing is, the truth won't be acknowledged by the american public.
What's even sadder is, some of the cats on this board will soak this up and build more hate for this country. The sad part; they more then likely have absolutely no idea why any of it happened.

nefar559 said:
US involvement?
Are you saying the U.S. was involved? Or not.
 
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Nitro the Guru said:
You guys look past the slaughter of innocent Americans to find something that happened over 30 years ago in another country? R.I.P. to all the people killed on that day but, why mourn one over the other? Why be saddened by the events in that country (when you know absolutely nobody living there) and turn your back on the events that took place in the country you live in.
I'm not looking past Sept. 11th 2003. And it's something that happened in another country because of the United States and it is brushed off in this country like it never happened, most people don't know it did. And to accuse me of not mourning the death of innocent people in this country, that i watched jump out of those buildings two years ago, is ignorant and without merit. I tremble with indignation at every injustice that happens in this world, not just ones that are committed against people in the U.S. I'm saddened by the events in Chile because it was not only a set back for that country and that continent, but the entire world and because the government of my country did it. That not only saddens me, but it sickens me as well. Also, I should also point out that I do know two people that were directly affected by the events of September 11th 1973. Both could have lost their lives and those of their families and didn't, but were unfortunate enough to lose several people close to them. So that argument doesn't hold water with me either.


Nitro the Guru said:
one of these days your going to come face to face with someone who actually knows what there talking about
Doesn't look like today is the day. :rolleyes:


Nitro the Guru said:
Are you saying the U.S. was involved? Or not.
I'll say it. They were involved.
 
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ColdBlooded said:
And it's something that happened in another country because of the United States and it is brushed off in this country like it never happened, most people don't know it did.
What are you against in this thread. Who's actions? The U.S. 30 years ago? Who was in office then, who is in office now. Things change in time. Can you hate Germany for ever because of what Hitler did? Are you against the name "United States", are you against those running the country 30 years ago when it happened, or are you against the country as it is today, even though they are innocent of the actions on that day.

ColdBlooded said:
And to accuse me of not mourning the death of innocent people in this country, that i watched jump out of those buildings two years ago, is ignorant and without merit.
My apologies, but I didn't see any signs of you trembling over what happened when I looked at your posts of all but what happened in THIS country on September 11th. Again my apologies, I had you wrong.

ColdBlooded said:
Doesn't look like today is the day.
That was cheap, childish, and false. I don't know if today is the day, and I won't know of it when the day comes. I'm not talking about people on the internet, although I see many already that browse this forum. If you would kindly read what I typed again, you will see the wording "face to face", which means, NOT ON THE INTERNET. It is a tad bit more difficult to theorize and agrue these accusations in real life when you don't have a search engine to turn to.
 
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@Nitro

US was behind the coup in Venezuela, so that means, nothing has changed since 30 years ago

"Three decades ago, in the throes of the energy crisis, Washington's hawks conceived of a strategy for US control of the Persian Gulf's oil. Now, with the same strategists firmly in control of the White House, the Bush administration is playing out their script for global dominance."
source: http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2003/10/ma_273_01.html
http://www.siccness.net/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=74718

nothing has changed.
 
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Nefar559: I would be much more willing to take in what that article has to say if I wasn't already clear (before reading so much as one word) that the author "Mother Jones" didn't hold some sort of grudge or hatred for Bush. A supporter of our president, might tell that same story entirely different. See what Im getting at?



See what im getting at...
 
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Nitro the Guru said:
Nefar559: I would be much more willing to take in what that article has to say if I wasn't already clear (before reading so much as one word) that the author "Mother Jones" didn't hold some sort of grudge or hatred for Bush. A supporter of our president, might tell that same story entirely different. See what Im getting at?



See what im getting at...
you stated ""Who's actions? The U.S. 30 years ago? Who was in office then, who is in office now. Things change in time."

just wanted to prove that some of us dont think so

also the article was written by Robert Dreyfuss , not mother jones, she's dead
 
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Nitro the Guru said:
What are you against in this thread.
The coup in Chile 1973 :rolleyes:

Nitro the Guru said:
Who's actions?
Too many to name, but a few are the U.S. government, intellectuals in the U.S. The Chilean military, the United Nations, the OAS, etc, etc.


Nitro the Guru said:
The U.S. 30 years ago?
The U.S. then and now.

Nitro the Guru said:
Who was in office then, who is in office now.
Well it should be in U.S. History books, but to help you out Nixon was president then and Bush is president now. Reading is fundamental.

Nitro the Guru said:
are you against those running the country 30 years ago when it happened
Yes

Nitro the Guru said:
even though they are innocent of the actions on that day.
They aren't. Let me give you some info.

George HW Bush was ambassador to the United Nations at the time (1971-1974)

Vice President Dick Cheney and Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld were both members of the Nixon Administration at the time

Henry Kissinger (Secretary of State at the time) is still extremely influential in the current administration

And there are undoubtedly countless others that I don’t know by name that work as consultants, personal friends, advisors to the current government.

Same people are still in power.

They haven't changed their policies in Latin America since Set 11th 1973 either, look up:

Nicaragua and El Salvador in the 1970's-1980's, Grenada, Peru, Colombia, through to Venezuela most recently.