U.S. activates defense system

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ColdBlooded

ColdBlooded

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Missile defense is a catch phrase to encourage public support for an enormously expensive offensive nuclear first strike policy.

It’s a bullshit term just like “death tax” or “partial birth abortion”.

It was conceived during a time where full scale use of nuclear weapons by either major power would ensure the destruction of BOTH countries. It assumes that each side has enough weaponry to destroy the other side and that either side, if attacked for any reason by the other, would retaliate with equal or greater force. The expected result is an immediate escalation resulting in both combatants' total and assured destruction.
Take for example if the U.S. launched a first strike on the soviet union, the soviets would have more than enough time to either launch their missiles before the U.S. missiles hit their target or they would have enough missiles left over to fire after U.S. missiles landed to completely destroy the entire U.S. Missile “defense” was conceived as part of a first strike strategy, after you eliminate the majority of the soviet union with your first strike the remaining soviet missiles, at least some, could be shot down before they reached the U.S.

It was never conceived as a defensive system because given the huge build up of arms on both sides it would be impossible for the system to shoot down every missile. It was a way to make sure your dying enemy couldn’t get off a final shot and take you down with them.

That’s why it has been so controversial since it was first proposed, because it eliminated the effectiveness of Mutually Assured Destruction(MAD) under which neither side would dare to launch a first strike because the other side will launch on warning (also called fail-deadly) or with secondary forces (second strike) resulting in the destruction of both parties.

Some of you may remember what it used to be called before they came up with the catchy name of missile defense . . . Strategic Defense Initiative (known as "Star Wars")

SDI was criticized (including Margaret Thatcher) because, were it ever operational and effective, it would have undermined the "assured destruction" required for MAD. If America had a guarantee against Soviet nuclear responce, it would have first strike capability which would have been a politically and militarily destabilizing position.

To prevent a power from using first strike while having a “missile defese” system officially the world had the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty ( which George W. Bush withdrew from in June 2002).


it's so we can launch first, not if we are off guard
 
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Fucky McFuckerson

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I think a "confrontation" with N.Korea is inevitable...has been for a long time....the US was just waiting for a reason to "confront" them....and here it is on a silver platter....

I doubt this will boil over...if what stands true in the US' "ultimate" plan..takin any power away from an Asian country is the key....
 
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MaddDogg

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My 2 cents is this has nothing to do with MAD but is a diplomatic game. Australia, Japan, the Europeans, Chinese and United States have all condemned a North Korean missile launch and in usual bellicose fashion the United States adds a military consequence. This is why the US is activating its missile defense shield and running war game exercises in Guam.

The US wants to show not just North Korea but all of South East Asia it is serious about containing the North Korean threat. The missile defense system the US is developing will not only protect the West Coast but eventually countries in South East Asia like Japan who watch Korean missile tests travel through their airspace. The United States views its strategic relations in South East Asia as very precious especially under growing Chinese influence and will help solidify its position by committing itself to the protection of South East Asia and providing South East Asian countries with defensive capabilities. A North Korean attack is not as likely to strike the United States mainland as it would somewhere in the Pacific Islands.

My gut feeling is the North Koreans got caught with dirty hands and will eventually backtrack on the launch. The Chinese will probably call them on it and force them back to a compromise. If North Korea DOES launch a missile, it will either (a) launch into space or (b) launch into the Pacific Ocean. And, if (b), you can bet the United States has missile defense closer than California and will try and shoot it down. Todays Washington Post said in tests missile defense worked 5 out of 8 times but testing was suspended due to quality control.
 
I AM

I AM

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No reason to bomb them first...Unless people are paranoid and we live in the 1950's...

I doubt they are tryin to attack us, I don't think it would be known this well if that was the case....I've been workin at a conservative newstalk radio station this summer so I'm getting the full rendition of the "conservative" point of view...It's rather entertaining....If they are tryin to fuck with our country though, bomb the mother fuckers...If not, then don't waste more money.
 
filthyclean44

filthyclean44

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Sixxness said:
No reason to bomb them first...Unless people are paranoid and we live in the 1950's...

I doubt they are tryin to attack us, I don't think it would be known this well if that was the case....I've been workin at a conservative newstalk radio station this summer so I'm getting the full rendition of the "conservative" point of view...It's rather entertaining....If they are tryin to fuck with our country though, bomb the mother fuckers...If not, then don't waste more money.
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^^^ YOUR A FUCKING HIPOCRATE
 
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