True origin of THANKSGIVING?
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It's true. The natives did drink beer with the Pilgrims. Beer was a valuable resource to the Pilgrims on the Mayflower becasuse the water was pasturized. The Pilgrims were at sea for more then two weeks, pasturized water is better then water with disease.
70% of the crew died of the crew members of the Mayflower died. Only 30 of them survived. So when the Native Americans helped the survivors, the Pilgrims who survived were thankful.
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imo...no.....
that would make them oppressors......
not sure if this was directed towards me...
but if so CAMBY....
u should know that i am a huge RAS KAS fan.....
that song i quoted is from his 1996 album SOUL ON ICE, which ive had since it came out..
and i have the album INTERVIEW W/A VAMPIRE is on
(RASSASSINATION) so yes, ive heard that...dope song btw...
well, PILGRIMS were "EUROPEAN CHRISTIANS" right?
and as we all know by now....
their intentions werent as righteous as they'd like us 2 believe....
look what really happened to the NATIVE AMERICANS
(which i am 1 of)...
PILGRIMS also killed NATIVES who werent willing
to convert to CHRISTIANITY and abandon their "savage ways"....
that would make them oppressors......
not sure if this was directed towards me...
but if so CAMBY....
u should know that i am a huge RAS KAS fan.....
that song i quoted is from his 1996 album SOUL ON ICE, which ive had since it came out..
and i have the album INTERVIEW W/A VAMPIRE is on
(RASSASSINATION) so yes, ive heard that...dope song btw...
well, PILGRIMS were "EUROPEAN CHRISTIANS" right?
and as we all know by now....
their intentions werent as righteous as they'd like us 2 believe....
look what really happened to the NATIVE AMERICANS
(which i am 1 of)...
PILGRIMS also killed NATIVES who werent willing
to convert to CHRISTIANITY and abandon their "savage ways"....
Yes, if the Muslims conquered Spain, Portugal and France, that would make them the oppressors. Was it wrong to murder in the name of Christianity? Yes it was. Was it wrong for them to invade other areas and take over to spread Christianity? Yes, it was. Do 2 wrongs make a right? No!! They were all wrong. The Muslims were wrong for invading other areas, and the Christians were wrong for doing the same shit.
Do I believe the Pilgrims came and slaughtered people? Not sure. Were any of us there during this time? No, it's all he said she said from 2 different sides. Some say the Pilgrims murdered, some say they didn't. I'm going to continue celebrating Thanksgiving.
As far as Ras Kass, dude is a rapper, not an historian. Just like everybody else on the planet, dude has THEORIES. Yes, he is intelligent, yes he makes good points...but the dude doesn't know EVERYTHING!!
Do I believe the Pilgrims came and slaughtered people? Not sure. Were any of us there during this time? No, it's all he said she said from 2 different sides. Some say the Pilgrims murdered, some say they didn't. I'm going to continue celebrating Thanksgiving.
As far as Ras Kass, dude is a rapper, not an historian. Just like everybody else on the planet, dude has THEORIES. Yes, he is intelligent, yes he makes good points...but the dude doesn't know EVERYTHING!!
no.....but thats not 2 say they didnt have a hand in it.....
as well as others who came after the 1st successful landing...
well...metaphorically, i do that every day.......
like MARK 7 said on the other thread......
i just treat it as a day to spend w/my fam.....
i agree with everything u posted folks....
i brought this to the table to get discussion started
so maybe i could get different opinions on the RAS KAS theory...
cuz this is only 1 man's take.....
he said he did over a years worth of research 4 this song.....
and i wanted 2 get other angles..
NEGATIVE....
taking bac your country doesnt qualify as oppression in my eyes.....
what they did to prevent it from happening again was oppression.....
this shit was connected ALL the way to the POPE in ROME.....
and was a holiday celebrated EVERYWHERE....
which makes it very far from rightful rulers taking their lands bac.....
as well as others who came after the 1st successful landing...
well...metaphorically, i do that every day.......
like MARK 7 said on the other thread......
i just treat it as a day to spend w/my fam.....
i agree with everything u posted folks....
i brought this to the table to get discussion started
so maybe i could get different opinions on the RAS KAS theory...
cuz this is only 1 man's take.....
he said he did over a years worth of research 4 this song.....
and i wanted 2 get other angles..
NEGATIVE....
taking bac your country doesnt qualify as oppression in my eyes.....
what they did to prevent it from happening again was oppression.....
this shit was connected ALL the way to the POPE in ROME.....
and was a holiday celebrated EVERYWHERE....
which makes it very far from rightful rulers taking their lands bac.....