Trent Lott

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I accept his apology and i dont think that he should resign.

people have read TOO much into what he said.

although he has a PROVOCATIVE tracc record for supporting racism. his statement couldnt even be prosecuted in court if it was held against him.

his accusesers have NO CASE.

http://www.salon.com/politics/feature/2002/12/14/race/index_np.html


democrats were just waiting for an opportunity to strike at the republican party and they did it. WELL. even the president was so pissed at him that he didnt even speak to him directly. he had a message telephoned to him and READ. LMFAO. thats what you call fuccing up BAD.

even Gore with his corny ass acted like it was a revelation to him like he was the first to figure it out.

"That was Racist" he said in a pedogougal voice. one that insisted his revelative authority in the matter.
 
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YOU THINK HE SHOULD STAY??? Can I ask whats your race?

Facts about Trent Lott

• In 1989 Lott voted to eliminate federal funding for the Martin Luther King Jr. Holiday Commission.

• In 1990 Lott voted against the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1990.

• In 1990 Lott supported a proposal that would prohibit a defendant in death penalty cases from using statistical evidence which could show that race was an overriding factor in a jury's decision.

• In 1991 Lott opposed the motor/voter legislation which would have simplified voter registration for poor blacks in Mississippi and other states.

• In 1991 Lott supported an amendment by North Carolina Senator Jesse Helms that called for prohibiting private employers from using affirmative action procedures for recruiting black workers.

• In 1992 Lott voted against extending provisions in the Voting Rights Act of 1965 until 2007.

• In 1994 Lott voted against the confirmation of the highly esteemed black scholar William Gould as a member of the National Labor Relations Board.

• In 1995 Lott voted to eliminate funding for the Smithsonian's National African-American Museum.

• In 1998 Lott voted to eliminate a set-aside program for minority-owned businesses on federal construction projects.

It's not like Lott slipped on the Strom comments, there's a pattern to his ignorance. Now Lott has the right to voice his opinion WE ALL DO but when you're in public office you have to be responsible, especially if you have as much power as he does. Lott wasn't responsible....

So therefore....

PLEASE STEP DOWN!!
 
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people are infering what he meant when no1 can know what is in his heart and what he meant. he simply made a simply statement to make a 100 year old man feel good. thats it.

now he has said several times that he didnt mean anything and that he was just trying to be curtious at thurmons birthday party. he has also apologized a million times what more do people want.
 
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i gotta go with my boy Tenk.. its not so much this comment thats gettin ppl pissed its all the shit that's he done leading up to this statement.. I just think trent lott should've had a sligh idea that the comment/joke he made would stirr up some controversy.. i mean the man was a racist back in the days probably still is, but because he wanted to stay in office he adapted to what was PC
 
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XianeX said:
democrats were just waiting for an opportunity to strike at the republican party and they did it
yes they are, but i think that if they want to call trent lott a racist for someting that he said (which really wasnt bad). this is a party that got their asses killed in the last election, a party that has no leaders, a party that is in shambles, a party that has no ideas, and a party that will do anything to redirect the spotlight off of their impotence and onto (undeserving) others in a pathetic attempt to regain popularity.

i think that if the democrats-liberals want to play this game than the same needs to be done for all the democrats (and believe me there are more democrats racists than republicans). personally i think it would be good for the country to have some sort of major forum where all real racists are exposed to see which party is the real racist party.
 
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Mcleanhatch said:
people are infering what he meant when no1 can know what is in his heart and what he meant. he simply made a simply statement to make a 100 year old man feel good. thats it.

now he has said several times that he didnt mean anything and that he was just trying to be curtious at thurmons birthday party. he has also apologized a million times what more do people want.

yes they are, but i think that if they want to call trent lott a racist for someting that he said (which really wasnt bad).
I’m sorry that you don’t see Lotts comment as bad...I certainly have a problem with Lotts comment last week…

STROM THURMONDS presidential campaign: " And all the laws of Washington and all the bayonets of the Army cannot force the Negro into our homes, into our schools, our churches and our places of recreation and amusement."

TRENT LOTT'S comments last week: “I want to say this about my state. When Strom Thurmond ran for president, we voted for him. We're proud of it. And if the rest of the country had followed our lead, we wouldn't have had all these problems over all these years, either.'”

“We voted for him. We’re proud of it”…Mcleanhatch maybe you could help me out since Lott is your folks. In the year 2002 how could you be proud of voting for a racist? A person that was a firm believer in segregation, a guy that had a problem with blacks integrating with white people in public places. This just shows you how ignorant Trent Lott is…. :rolleyes:

And what’s funny is that this is not the only time he’s made this dumb ass comment…

1988 TRENT LOTT: "if we had elected this man 30 years ago, we wouldn't be in the mess we are today."

You said that he was trying to make a 100 yr old man feel good, well I guess he was trying to make 86 year old man feel good in 88..huh? lol!!

If you slip up once I can forgive you but you have partially burnt the bridge. But when you slip up again the bridge has now fallen into the ocean.

He apologized a million times because his first apology really wasn’t an apology and he got slammed HARDER for that shit..lol!! This guy has really fugged up...
 
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Tenkamenin said:
Mcleanhatch maybe you could help me out since Lott is your folks. ...
he is my folks and has killed a few federals laws that would have really damaged my main source of income and a hobby of mine. (nefar559 knows, i told him about lott helping me and others in my hobby out about a month ago.)
 
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Mcleanhatch said:


he is my folks and has killed a few federals laws that would have really damaged my main source of income and a hobby of mine. (nefar559 knows, i told him about lott helping me and others in my hobby out about a month ago.)
I'm glad he has....
 
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Tenkamenin said:
TRENT LOTT'S comments last week: “I want to say this about my state. When Strom Thurmond ran for president, we voted for him. We're proud of it. And if the rest of the country had followed our lead, we wouldn't have had all these problems over all these years, either.'”

you know he could have been talking about alote of other things. he never implyed racism, the liberal minded media implied it.

Tenkamenin said:
In the year 2002 how could you be proud of voting for a racist?
so now in 2002 people are calling him a racist based on what he didnt say, based on what his political enemies think he meant, based on because he is a senator from the south (infering that no people from the south can be against racism).

Tenkamenin said:
A person that was a firm believer in segregation, a guy that had a problem with blacks integrating with white people in public places. This just shows you how ignorant Trent Lott is…. :rolleyes: ...
how can you say this^^ as if you know whats in his heart

Tenkamenin said:
And what’s funny is that this is not the only time he’s made this dumb ass comment…

1988 TRENT LOTT: "if we had elected this man 30 years ago, we wouldn't be in the mess we are today."
could it be because maybe he repeats that line to thurman all the time


Tenkamenin said:
He apologized a million times because his first apology really wasn’t an apology and he got slammed HARDER for that shit..lol!! This guy has really fugged up...
ya he did mess up by issuing a statement but it could be because this wasnt supposed to explode the way that it did. because it wasnt or at least shouldnt have been a big deal. a recall him apologizing about 18 times combined in his radio address on the Sean Hannity show and during his press conference. at which time he said that he refutiated segragationist views.
 
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Tenkamenin said:
YOU THINK HE SHOULD STAY??? Can I ask whats your race?
yes, he should stay,

i am mexican

Tenkamenin said:
Facts about Trent Lott

• In 1989 Lott voted to eliminate federal funding for the Martin Luther King Jr. Holiday Commission.

• In 1990 Lott voted against the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1990.

• In 1990 Lott supported a proposal that would prohibit a defendant in death penalty cases from using statistical evidence which could show that race was an overriding factor in a jury's decision.

• In 1991 Lott opposed the motor/voter legislation which would have simplified voter registration for poor blacks in Mississippi and other states.

• In 1991 Lott supported an amendment by North Carolina Senator Jesse Helms that called for prohibiting private employers from using affirmative action procedures for recruiting black workers.

• In 1992 Lott voted against extending provisions in the Voting Rights Act of 1965 until 2007.

• In 1994 Lott voted against the confirmation of the highly esteemed black scholar William Gould as a member of the National Labor Relations Board.

• In 1995 Lott voted to eliminate funding for the Smithsonian's National African-American Museum.

• In 1998 Lott voted to eliminate a set-aside program for minority-owned businesses on federal construction projects.
he is a conservative, most all conservatives vote against spending


Tenkamenin said:
• In 1991 Lott supported an amendment by North Carolina Senator Jesse Helms that called for prohibiting private employers from using affirmative action procedures for recruiting black workers.
private companies should have the right to hire whoever they want. i am sure if you owned a store you wouldnt wan the government telling you who you can and who you cant hire

Tenkamenin said:
[B• In 1994 Lott voted against the confirmation of the highly esteemed black scholar William Gould as a member of the National Labor Relations Board.
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ya, i know that is true because he supported another african-american in that position.
 
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Mcleanhatch said:

you know he could have been talking about alote of other things. he never implyed racism, the liberal minded media implied it.
Sorry but it doesn't get any clearer then saying "We voted for him, and We're proud of it"...You don't have to imply racism, you said you were proud of voting for someone that was racist. I certainly wouldn't be proud..... UNLESS I shared some of those racial views...:eek:

so now in 2002 people are calling him a racist based on what he didnt say, based on what his political enemies think he meant, based on because he is a senator from the south (infering that no people from the south can be against racism).
You don't have to be an enemy of Trent Lott to see that his comment was ignorant. Trent Lotts true enemy is his mouth.

how can you say this^^ as if you know whats in his heart
He said what he said... he originally said that he used a poor choice of words. In what other way can you say "I voted for someone that believed in segregation"?


could it be because maybe he repeats that line to thurman all the time
You can repeat that line to Thurmond all you want behind close doors but don't say that in public...DOH!! :dead:


ya he did mess up by issuing a statement but it could be because this wasnt supposed to explode the way that it did. because it wasnt or at least shouldnt have been a big deal. a recall him apologizing about 18 times combined in his radio address on the Sean Hannity show and during his press conference. at which time he said that he refutiated segragationist views.
Why shouldn't it have exploded like the way it did? The comment was ignorant... Again you are going to have a hard time arguing Lotts comment "We voted for him, and We're proud of it".....How do you expect black people to feel?
 
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Tenkamenin said:
Sorry but it doesn't get any clearer then saying "We voted for him, and We're proud of it

UNLESS I shared some of those racial views...:eek:
first off it was again just a statement to make the near dead man feel goos. i mean trent lott was 7 years old when thurman ran for president.

Tenkamenin said:
You don't have to be an enemy of Trent Lott to see that his comment was ignorant. Trent Lotts true enemy is his mouth.
heres what happened he used a poor choice of words, that could offend some. but that in no way implies that he was a racist. every1 has had instances where they used maybe the wrong words on accident that in no way respresent the way they feel

Tenkamenin said:
He said what he said
exactly and that was nothing he simply made a positive comment towards a fellow senator

Tenkamenin said:
You can repeat that line to Thurmond all you want behind close doors but don't say that in public...DOH!! :dead:
so your saying be a racist just dont let any1 know about it.


Tenkamenin said:
Why shouldn't it have exploded like the way it did?
because it wasnt anything

Tenkamenin said:
The comment was ignorant
yes, it was

Tenkamenin said:
Again you are going to have a hard time arguing Lotts comment "We voted for him, and We're proud of it".....How do you expect black people to feel?
i expect intelligent black people to think about the words, the circumstances in which they were said, the grief and remorse lott has shown in offending some people. and either accept or reject his apology.

now if they reject it then i ask them to do it evenly across the board against black icons like clinton, jackson, sharpton, and others like byrd, gore, fulbright and others
 
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Thursday, Dec. 12, 2002

Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott helped lead a successful battle to prevent his college fraternity from admitting blacks to any of its chapters, in a little-known incident now four decades old. At a time when racial issues were roiling campuses across the South, some chapters of Sigma Nu fraternity in the Northeast were considering admitting African-American members, a move that would have sent a powerful statement through the tradition-bound world of sororities and fraternities. At the time, Lott was president of the intra-fraternity council at the University of Mississippi. When the issue came to a head at Sigma Nu's national convention — known as a "Grand Chapter" — in the early 1960s, "Trent was one of the strongest leaders in resisting the integration of the national fraternity in any of the chapters," recalls former CNN President Tom Johnson, then a Sigma Nu member at the University of Georgia.

The bitter debate over the issue took place at the convention in a New Orleans hotel, as Johnson recalls. Sigma Nu's executive secretary Richard Fletcher, a legendary figure in the fraternity, pleaded with the Sigma Nus to find some common ground between those who wanted to integrate and those who didn't, Johnson says. But the southerners were unbending about permitting no exceptions to the all-white policy. With their chapters threatening a walkout, the fraternity voted overwhelmingly to remain all-white.

Johnson, who voted on Lott's side, now calls that vote "one of the biggest mistakes of my life." Over the years, as Johnson became a media executive, word would get back to him from time to time that Lott was repeating the tale to mutual acquaintances — to embarrass him, Johnson believes.

Asked about the fraternity vote, Lott responded through a spokesman, who said: "Those were different times in a different era. Senator Lott believes that segregation is immoral and repudiates it." The spokesman also notes that Sigma Nu integrated in the late 1960s, and that its Ole Miss chapter now accepts African-Americans.

It was Lott himself who first told me this story, back in the mid 1980s. He was a Republican Congressman and I was a reporter freshly assigned to cover Capitol Hill for the Los Angeles Times, where Johnson was then the publisher. "In later life, it seemed that Trent felt he 'had something on me,' when he would share the fact that he and I had been on the same side in the national fraternity debate," says Johnson, who later went to work as an aide in Lyndon Johnson's White House and more recently helped lead the battle to have the confederate battle flag removed in Georgia. Johnson recalls of Lott back then: "He was against integration. I was against splitting the fraternity. Yet my vote had the same impact and is subject to the same interpretation — that I also opposed integration. I am very disappointed in myself. I hope my record for the past 40 years speaks louder than that."

Lott has been under fire since last week, when he declared that his state was proud to have voted for Strom Thurmond's segregationist ticket in 1948. "And if the rest of the country had followed our lead," Lott added in remarks at Thurmond's 100th birthday party, "we wouldn't have had all these problems over the years either." Lott has since apologized, and on Thursday, President Bush said the apology was deserved. "Any suggestion that the segregated past was acceptable or positive is offensive and it is wrong," Bush declared.

Lott was a witness to one of the pivotal episodes in that past. During his senior year at Ole Miss, violence erupted there when U.S. marshals moved to install Air Force veteran James Meredith as its first African-American student. Lott was not among the students advocating integration...
 
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Mcleanhatch said:


first off it was again just a statement to make the near dead man feel goos. i mean trent lott was 7 years old when thurman ran for president.
WELL he obviously believed in Segregation, because the article I posted shows that. Does he still believe in that? He says no but he slipped big time last week...



heres what happened he used a poor choice of words, that could offend some. but that in no way implies that he was a racist. every1 has had instances where they used maybe the wrong words on accident that in no way respresent the way they feel
It wasn't poor choices of words, it was a bad statement PERIOD. I don't care how you flip those words around it was a poor statement.

exactly and that was nothing he simply made a positive comment towards a fellow senator
it was a positive comment to Strom, but a negative comment towards a lot of black people that fought for civil rights.


so your saying be a racist just dont let any1 know about it.
So I guess you feel that he's racist? I don't condone racism, but if you felt like that don't be stupid enough to say that to the public. You just screwed yourself over...



because it wasnt anything
It's been on the news for the last few days...



i expect intelligent black people to think about the words, the circumstances in which they were said, the grief and remorse lott has shown in offending some people. and either accept or reject his apology.

now if they reject it then i ask them to do it evenly across the board against black icons like clinton, jackson, sharpton, and others like byrd, gore, fulbright and others
And LOL!! @ grief and remorse...PUUHHLLEEAASSEE!! He apologized for the choice of words and the people he offended, but not the actual fact at celebrating segregation. I think that was his 4th apology where he acknowledge he was wrong....
 
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Tenkamenin said:
And LOL!! @ grief and remorse...PUUHHLLEEAASSEE!! He apologized for the choice of words and the people he offended,
yes he did. did you see the press conference, i did. it was at 2:30 pacific on friday, i also heard him address the public a couple days earlier on the Sean Hannity radio show. where he faced tough questions from Sean. if you go to www.hannity.com they got the interview it was their exclusive and you can hear the entire interview there in case you havent heard it

Tenkamenin said:
but not the actual fact at celebrating segregation. I think that was his 4th apology where he acknowledge he was wrong....
what fact, he in no endorsed or celebrated segregation.

he apologized about 18 times in his two addresses combined, he apologized for using insensitive words. not for being a racist because he isnt, as he stated several times



Tenkamenin said:
So I guess you feel that he's racist?
ive have already stated several times that i believe him when he sais that he is not a racist


Tenkamenin said:
it was a positive comment to Strom, but a negative comment towards a lot of black people that fought for civil rights. ....
your infering into what you think he means. your giving his words life. when he already said that he didnt mean them like that and that it was just a compliment
 
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I don't think he should be FORCED to resign, because you always have voter backlash built into the system, BUT I think it would be stupid for the republican party to have him as their leader because they are trying to go on the mission of recruiting minorities and thats gonna be hard when they got this closet racist as their majority leader...

Like everyone is saying, his record speaks for itself, I'm not buying into his BS apology...
 
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Lott Plays Hardball With The Bush White House

According to William Kristol on NPR right after one more press conference, Lott's ultimate mia culpa in Mississippi in front of his followers and the press this Friday evening didn't cut it, but Lott aides have put it to the Bush White House, threatening that the besieged senator would resign from the Senate if he were forced to give up his leadership as GOP majority head. This would mean, they reminded Bush, that the Dem governor of Mississippi would then be able to nominate a Dem to fill Lott's shoes, threatening the GOP majority in the Senate and thereby spelling defeat to Bush's more extreme far right policies that he's itching to push through come January. Count on Bush giving in to Lott's threat, thereby reinforcing those who point to coded racisim as the GOP's "dirty little secret."

http://www.bushnews.com/
 
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how could you be so blind to think that he's not racist? Some of you republicans & democrats act like little kids sometimes. It's like if your republican and you agree with something that a democrat says you automatically shoot it down and say that it's a stupid idea. Do you not have a mind of your own? Same thing goes for democrats on republicans. If you agree with something say so, don't try to hide your true feelings just cuz your with that party. You gotta be pretty fuckin ignorant to think that Lott is not racist.
 
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most people make their judgements and responses about trent based on what the media has conformed their minds to believe without using the brain power to look at the clear and PRESENT facts. he didnt say ANYTHING derogatory. if people are that SENSITIVE and impulsive no wonder terrorist hate AMERICA so much.

people are ready to take a mans career from him based on what they feel his words meant. fucc a tracc record. thats not whats on the chopping blocc. its what he said RECENTLY.

EVERYBODY IS A RACIST. its in our blood. just because you have friends of another color doesnt mean you arent.

the point is this. if you are going to penalize someone for being a racist do it when they have ACTUALLY given a CLEAR AND PRESENT reason for doing so. dont just take an inference and attach previous misdeeds to it.

YOU WOULDNT WANT TO BE JUDGED THAT WAY!!!

marinara
 
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XianeX said:
he didnt say ANYTHING derogatory. if people are that SENSITIVE and impulsive no wonder terrorist hate AMERICA so much.

people are ready to take a mans career from him based on what they feel his words meant

marinara
exactly, people need to listen to the exact words that were used, the circumstances in which they were used, and who they were used to, and make up their minds not just listen to what they have heard on the news.