To those who are labeling people as ANTI-AMERICAN... are you aware that America......

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May 12, 2002
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...is America so that we can DISAGREE WITH OUR GOVERNMENT without the fear of being killed and such???

Do you know why we are allowed to keep arms?

Do you know why we have freedom of speech?

Do you know why we are entitled to privacy?

We are supposed to challenge our government when we are uncomfortable with it. We can try to change it as long as we are not trying to overthrow it. We are allowed to hate certain things they are doing. A lot of us actually THINK FOR OURSELVES instead of following their every command like a worker bee.

And i ask... do you disagree with any of their policies at all? Or is it mainly because we dont support the war you want that we are "Anti-American"?

P.S. if you aint figured it out yet, we are allowed to disagree with the government, AND we are protected to be able to do this by the SAME ARTICLES that empower the government. :eek:
Not trying to disrespect anyone.
 
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Re: To those who are labeling people as ANTI-AMERICAN... are you aware that America......

Blight said:
...is America so that we can DISAGREE WITH OUR GOVERNMENT without the fear of being killed and such???

Do you know why we are allowed to keep arms?

Do you know why we have freedom of speech?

Do you know why we are entitled to privacy?

We are supposed to challenge our government when we are uncomfortable with it. We can try to change it as long as we are not trying to overthrow it. We are allowed to hate certain things they are doing. A lot of us actually THINK FOR OURSELVES instead of following their every command like a worker bee.

And i ask... do you disagree with any of their policies at all? Or is it mainly because we dont support the war you want that we are "Anti-American"?

P.S. if you aint figured it out yet, we are allowed to disagree with the government, AND we are protected to be able to do this by the SAME ARTICLES that empower the government. :eek:
Not trying to disrespect anyone.
i agree.....damn oreillies and the savages of the siccness.
 
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when i say anti-americans i dont mean ordinary people who protest the war, or people who truly believe the war is wrong but which otherwise love America.

i have alote of respect for those people even though i disagree with them.

i mean the people who hate America and want to overthrow america and replace it with some sort of communist government. i mean the people who are so far to the left who cant stand Bush and would if gioven the chance remove him by any means necessary including physical violence against their own government.
 
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Blight said:
I voted fair and square, i, and the people who voted the same as me lost. I support the country except the war.
then you shouldnt worry about people calling you anti-american. if people were to here/read what you just wrote i doubt ant1 would call you anti-american (except for maybe the few right-wing nuts that are out there).

and i voted the same as you assuming you voted for Gore? i also voted for clinton but as much as i thought he was a disgrace to the oval office i did still support his actions when it came to confrontations with other nations from Iraq, to Bosnia, and Somolia. when it comes down to it i am an American first, conservative second, republican third.
 
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You dont have to be so far to the left to be against bush mcleanhatch.
ya i know alote of conservatives are not very happy with bush either but their reasons are totally different then your guys reasons. their reasons are like because he didnt cut back enough on spending in the budget. he didnt fight hard enough for school vouchers, although he did plant the seeds and did make it available for future conservative to expand on the voucher program. some religeous organizations are also against the war (as they are with ALL wars) like his own churches arch-bishop, the catholic churce and the pope. so i know what you mean that not all that are against him are from the left but the majority of those that are STRONGLY opposed to him ARE fropm the left
 
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"...to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever ANY Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is THE RIGHT of The People to ALTER or to ABOLISH it, and to institute new Government..." -The Declaration of Independence
 
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Mcleanhatch said:

i mean the people who hate America and want to overthrow america and replace it with some sort of communist government. i mean the people who are so far to the left who cant stand Bush and would if gioven the chance remove him by any means necessary including physical violence against their own government.
you must be an mcleanhatch (idiot, brainwash)

if such a situation would have happen
then it would be becuase the american ppl wanted to. and ppl
wont know a damn thing since all major media outlets are
catering to the right. What would happen if the playing fields
were even!?!?!?

why wasn't Nader including during the presidential debates?!?!?
 
Jul 6, 2002
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Another Conservative Anti-American

Anti-American

I agree with the Decloration of Independence, we should have the power to usurp the government and construct a new one....like refine the New World Order when it finally comes and bomb on the neo confederate conservative reskrubliklan authorities when we the people are told that we must live under marshall law.... i mean we should conglomerate and just straight kick up dust so that we can truely be free under an anarchist-based utopian society..
 
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Anti-American or Anti-Imperialist?


(Column written 12/16/02 by Mumia Abu-Jamal)

What does it mean to be an American? That is the question that is pulsing through the country, especially as the nation embarks on the dark road to war.

A plethora of pro-imperialist writers (pro-imperialists can be of both the right or the so-called 'left') have been busy promoting the suggestion that many of those who are firmly in the anti-war camp (such as this writer) are somehow 'Anti-American.' Of course, they feel no need to define their terms, for they rely on the implicit understanding of the reader to follow their drift.

But such a charge has a long history in the United States, and seriously deserves an answer.

Decades ago, the U.S. Congress appropriated to itself the task of defining what 'Anti-Americanism' meant, and established the infamous HUAC (for the House on Un-American Activities Committee). This group waged ideological war on Communists, socialists, and anyone who tried to organize social change in the repressive status quo of the United States. People barely remember the rednecks who sat on the side of the government, and who imperiously condemned those who came before them, but Paul Robeson, Dr. W.E. B. DuBois, and the Hollywood 10 (actors and writers who were black listed during the period) are remembered with something akin to reverence.

Who were the 'real Americans'? The rednecks and racists who stormed and raged and lorded it over those activists and artists? I stand with Robeson. I stand with DuBois. I would rather pitch my tent with the artists of the Hollywood Ten, who stood for the right to create work that reflected the truths about this society, rather than with the racists and segregationist politicians who stood for silence in the face of repression.

Thousands of people lost their livelihoods, and some committed suicide in the face of this cruel government repression. Families were destroyed in this witch hunt of the 1950's which launched the careers of the Nixons, and the Roy Coens, and the like.

The definition of American has been contested all throughout the history of this country, and when the State has been able to assert their meaning, it has always meant blind obedience to those in power, in government.

There are millions of people in this country who believe in another definition. They believe in the people. They believe that it is not the duty of people to obey the government, but the duty of the government to obey the people. They believe that everyone should have a say in that definition, not just the moneyed interests. They also do not believe in Empire.

To be an American also means that one is related to other peoples in the Americas. Like the Cubans. Like the Venezuelans. Like the Nicaraguans. Like the Brazilians.

They do not believe that it is the inherent right, or the 'manifest destiny' of the Norte Americanos to rule over them like New Rome.

They don't believe that it is right for American military or CIA or any other agency to destroy the leaders or popular organizations of neighboring states (or distant ones).

That definition of American is not anti-American, but the very best of what it means to be a part of the people of the Americas.

That kind of American is not represented in the halls of government or in the corridors of power in the Bush regime; but it is in the hearts, minds, and souls of the people. It has not yet found true political _expression, but it will.

They may be called anti-imperialists. But they may also be called, ?Americans.?

MAJ '02
 
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Mcleanhatch said:
when i say anti-americans i dont mean ordinary people who protest the war...i mean the people who hate America and want to overthrow america and replace it with some sort of communist government. i mean the people who are so far to the left who cant stand Bush and would if gioven the chance remove him by any means necessary including physical violence against their own government.
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The consitution of the United States was writen by "rebels". So yeah I agree that we all should question the government. I just see too many problems and very little solutions brought to the board.

It's easy to talk about the problems but its another thing to talk about solutions to those problems.
 
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"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it."



- Abraham Lincoln
 
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Mcleanhatch said:


to bad he wasnt because if he was george bush would have easily won outright. because nader would have taken even more votes from Gore
u must be an mcleanhatch (moron)

answer the question

nefar559 said:

why wasn't Nader included during the presidential debates?!?!?