Thoughts on Edgar Cayce

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Hemp

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why dont you think it will?
all his feats were paranormal and people in here either dont believe in the paranormal or believe its satan doing it.
 
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He was a pretty interesting fellow, Mr. Cayce. I haven't read all of his stuff, but my mum loves it - because of him, she tries to eat 4 almonds a day and drinks grape juice (he thought that 4 almonds a day keeps cancer at bay and that grape juice is really good for you but scientists won't discover how good it is for a while - something like that). I don't believe in the majority of it, but some of his claims are undoubtedly true.
 

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Why are you lumping all people together. This board is not limited to people who don't believe in the paranormal or who come with a "satans work" perspective.

i never said the board was limited to anything, i just said that the majority of people in here are either athiests and dont believe in his feats, or follow a religion that denies humanity the ability to do anything paranormal, and say that demons are the ones behind it.

according to my knowledge, nav, troll, n9newunsixx5150, and i, are the only ones in this group that i know of, that believe in paranormal truths and believe that paranormal is actually normal, just too advanced for us to understand.

if there are more of you then please speak up.
if i was wrong then its my fault, i wasnt really tryin to take my time on my reply, i just wanted to get the message across, quickly.
 

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hmm also, seeing hutchs reply i will admit that i have only skimmed the page and only saw his paranormal feats.
so since he also did more than that, again, it was my fault for not taking my time to read and understand the picture before speaking on the subject, or giving my opinion on the boards response.
 

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Hemp, when you make statements such as, "all his feats were paranormal and people in here either dont believe in the paranormal or believe its satan doing it." you ARE limiting something. You are saying people either don't believe in the paranormal or they believe it is the devils work. You can't get around that bro you said it.

according to my knowledge, nav, troll, n9newunsixx5150, and i, are the only ones in this group that i know of, that believe in paranormal truths and believe that paranormal is actually normal, just too advanced for us to understand.
First off what do you consider to be paranormal?
 

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HERESY said:
Hemp, when you make statements such as, "all his feats were paranormal and people in here either dont believe in the paranormal or believe its satan doing it." you ARE limiting something. You are saying people either don't believe in the paranormal or they believe it is the devils work. You can't get around that bro you said it.
yes i said that, and until now i still dont know what other "options" there are.
from all my "spiritual" threads i have only seen that it has been this way or that way, unless the other ways were never mentioned. So please explain to me what other classes there are.

HERESY said:
First off what do you consider to be paranormal?
hmm, everything that is currently considered paranormal or "above" normal such as psychic readings, out of body experiences, telepathy, teleportation, etc.


ps. im bout to msg you bout that computer issue, lemme know what happened
 

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Hemp, again you need to look at what you are saying. You are saying people believe THIS or they believe THAT. We know this is not true because YOU claim to believe in the paranormal and you also list others as believers in paranormal activity. Since this is tthe truth it is WRONG to say people believe it doesn't exist or that it is the devils work BECAUSE YOU YOURSELF BELIEVE IT EXISTS AND YOU DON'T BELIEVE IT IS THE DEVILS WORK. I should not have to explain what other classes exist.


hmm, everything that is currently considered paranormal or "above" normal such as psychic readings, out of body experiences, telepathy, teleportation, etc.
Hemp, "everything" is too broad so I'll stick to what you have listed. What is your definition of "psychic readings"?

Everything else I believe in and at times I believe it is the work of God OR the work of the devil.
 

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I'll explain the reason why I say it is the work of God or the devil. The reason I say it is the work of God is because when we do these things God is using us as a vessal to carry out his plan or work. I believe in what the bible says in that we can do a lot of things, but I believe that FAITH is required and I believe CIRCUMSTANCE dictates what will happen and WHEN it will happen. Should I go jumping off a bridge talking about "God is gonna save me"? No. Do I know God is going to save me if I were thrown or shoved off? Yes. Do I believe at that moment I will simply land on my feet or even float back up to the bridge? You bet.

Now, with the devil it is the exact opposite to some extent. It is "here is the power now", and the bible teaches that you are a theif and false prophet or sorcerer if you are doing thse things outside of the will of God.
 

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HERESY said:
Hemp, again you need to look at what you are saying. You are saying people believe THIS or they believe THAT. We know this is not true because YOU claim to believe in the paranormal and you also list others as believers in paranormal activity. Since this is tthe truth it is WRONG to say people believe it doesn't exist or that it is the devils work BECAUSE YOU YOURSELF BELIEVE IT EXISTS AND YOU DON'T BELIEVE IT IS THE DEVILS WORK. I should not have to explain what other classes exist.
yes, I know that man thats why i said :

Hemp said:
according to my knowledge, nav, troll, n9newunsixx5150, and i, are the only ones in this group that i know of, that believe in paranormal ...
meaning us 4 is a small number of people compared to the majority of this forum. So since nobody had replied to the thread at day two, except for one, i figured nobody else was gonna reply and stated what i stated.

i do know that there is another class which is my class, but are there anymore that you want to open my eyes to?

HERESY said:
Hemp, "everything" is too broad so I'll stick to what you have listed. What is your definition of "psychic readings"?
a psychic reading is a reading where the psychic will tell the person being read, facts that cant be known with our 5 senses, including the persons future, or the persons past.

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Everything else I believe in and at times I believe it is the work of God OR the work of the devil.
for real? i didnt think you believed in that but i can understand how you believe it can be both, God or the devil.
but seriously, i didnt think you believed that lol. You need to tell me more about your point of view about paranormality then cuz i would love to hear it.
 

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Hemp...you obviously don't understand what I am saying so I'll move on.


a psychic reading is a reading where the psychic will tell the person being read, facts that cant be known with our 5 senses, including the persons future, or the persons past.
I believe a person under demonic influence can do this, and I also believe those with prophetic gifts can do this.

for real? i didnt think you believed in that but i can understand how you believe it can be both, God or the devil.
but seriously, i didnt think you believed that lol. You need to tell me more about your point of view about paranormality then cuz i would love to hear it.
As I explained we need FAITH to do these things and the circumstances have to be right. Yeshi walked on water, raised the dead, healed the sick, cast out devils, and worked his miracles for the glory of God and for the benefit of mankind. He teleported, would tell people what they were thinking and their are many cases in the bible were people had OBE, and I've also mentioned the time where I almost had an OBE, but I chose not to have it.
 

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HERESY said:
Hemp...you obviously don't understand what I am saying so I'll move on.
Fine.

HERESY said:
I believe a person under demonic influence can do this, and I also believe those with prophetic gifts can do this.
yes man but what about those that have prophetic features as the dedication of self to God, lived their whole life devoted to God and obtained the skills to do these, simply by will?


HERESY said:
As I explained we need FAITH to do these things and the circumstances have to be right. Yeshi walked on water, raised the dead, healed the sick, cast out devils, and worked his miracles for the glory of God and for the benefit of mankind. He teleported, would tell people what they were thinking and their are many cases in the bible were people had OBE, and I've also mentioned the time where I almost had an OBE, but I chose not to have it.

yes, faith is needed for alot of things to work.
Yeshi did all of those, but he was known as a prophet. So from a religious point of view its understandable why it is believed to be valid.
About your OBE, may i ask why didnt you have it? I know most people are scared their first time, and fear alone will hold them back, but what was your reason if i may ask?
 

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yes man but what about those that have prophetic features as the dedication of self to God, lived their whole life devoted to God and obtained the skills to do these, simply by will?
The will to do so is given by God. The choice to abuse power or bless those is up to the individual.

yes, faith is needed for alot of things to work.
Yeshi did all of those, but he was known as a prophet. So from a religious point of view its understandable why it is believed to be valid.
He was known as a prophet to some and a bastard and worker of Magick to others. The point I am trying to make is no matter what people will believe you are good or evil, but deep down the person knows where they receieved their power from. Listen, and always remember this. ANYTHING in life you are blessed with comes by someone elses hand, and NOTHING is of your own accord. Yes, our true nature is that of spiritual beings, but in order to use our spiritual side some have tapped into light and others darkness.

About your OBE, may i ask why didnt you have it?
I did not want to have it. I did not want to "leave."

I know most people are scared their first time, and fear alone will hold them back, but what was your reason if i may ask?
It was not something that I wanted to do at the time, and unless God himself takes me out I won't do it. But, I will say this. I "felt blue" and saw a "blue" aura around my body when it happened.
 

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HERESY said:
The will to do so is given by God. The choice to abuse power or bless those is up to the individual.
Yes, i agree with you that all powers are given by God, but what about the buddhists who believe God is All and All is God, but with prophetic features and ability to do something paranormal?

meaning those that deny the truth about God, but believe God is something else and still devote themselves to that God?

HERESY said:
He was known as a prophet to some and a bastard and worker of Magick to others. The point I am trying to make is no matter what people will believe you are good or evil, but deep down the person knows where they receieved their power from. Listen, and always remember this. ANYTHING in life you are blessed with comes by someone elses hand, and NOTHING is of your own accord.
i understand this, just like i had no power in existing or being born.



HERESY said:
Yes, our true nature is that of spiritual beings, but in order to use our spiritual side some have tapped into light and others darkness.
hmm ok, but both ways still revolve around the persons belief in the power of which he taps into, and what it can do


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It was not something that I wanted to do at the time, and unless God himself takes me out I won't do it. But, I will say this. I "felt blue" and saw a "blue" aura around my body when it happened.
hmm i understand.
nice Blue is a good aura color to have.
according to what i have read before and just copied and pasted from this site:

Blue, next to yellow, is one of the easiest colors to see in the aura. It is the color of calm and quietness. It reflects devotion, truth and seriousness. It can indicate the ability for clairaudience and for the development of telepathy.

The lighter shades of blue reflect an active imagination and good intuition. The deeper shades of blue can indicate a sense of loneliness, which on one level reflects a life-long quest for the Divine. The deeper shades of blue reflect levels of devotion. Royal blue shades indicate the person has found or is about to find his or her chosen work.
 

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Royal blue shades indicate the person has found or is about to find his or her chosen work.
Interesting.

Yes, i agree with you that all powers are given by God, but what about the buddhists who believe God is All and All is God, but with prophetic features and ability to do something paranormal?
God knows teh heart of teh Buddhist and I don't. If these people have tapped in the power of God and he has blessed them so be it. However, I did not say all powers are given by God, because the devil can bless you also. What I said is the WILL (meaning the will to serve God, etc) is given by God, but the choice to act on it is up to the individual.

hmm ok, but both ways still revolve around the persons belief in the power of which he taps into, and what it can do
Just because you believe something that doesn't make it true. The bible speaks of MANY people who will basically say Lord, lord havent I done this and that in your name? But they will be told to DEPART, and they are called workers of iniquity.
 

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HERESY said:
God knows teh heart of teh Buddhist and I don't. If these people have tapped in the power of God and he has blessed them so be it. However, I did not say all powers are given by God, because the devil can bless you also. What I said is the WILL (meaning the will to serve God, etc) is given by God, but the choice to act on it is up to the individual.
oh yeah sorry i didnt mean all powers are given by God, but i said that implying that thats the only correct way for them to achieve those abilities, so i said it like that.
but that is the thing, like i know a pious muslim guy whos life revolves around teaching people what he believes is the truth.
he has obtained enlightment by devoting his self to worshipping God.
but the Islamic God is different than what we believe, but from seeing the guy and hearing about him and everything about him i am positive theres no way he has tapped into darkness, and im very sure that he doesnt deserve to burn in hell.

so would that mean that its the spirituality that matters, or the facts?

HERESY said:
Just because you believe something that doesn't make it true. The bible speaks of MANY people who will basically say Lord, lord havent I done this and that in your name? But they will be told to DEPART, and they are called workers of iniquity.
yes but those people who say those things send the message that they only worshipped him to gain benefits and not because they wanted to.
Islam has the same stance on this subject.