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'Islamic radicalization' hearing stirs hornets' nest
Inquiry by congressional committee looks like inquisition to many Muslims

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41958327/ns/us_news-security/




Congress holds hundreds of hearings each year — and most generate more yawns than fireworks.
But the plan to hold hearings on the danger posed by radical Islam in the United States has inspired protest, counterprotest, debate, editorials, petitions and even pray-ins, before the first witness takes the stand.
The goal of the hearings, the first of which is being held Thursday, is "to establish and show the American people that there is a real threat of al-Qaida recruiting and of homegrown terrorists being self-radicalized within the Muslim community," according to Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y., the new chairman of the Homeland Security Committee.
He also charges that Muslim Americans are not doing enough to discourage extremists in their midst.

Opponents say King is stoking anti-Islam hysteria at a time when the Muslim American community is already besieged by attacks on mosques, hate crimes and overzealous surveillance by law enforcement.
Many have compared these proceedings to the McCarthy hearings of the 1950s, which fed on fears of Communist subversion.

But King has not budged. He accused critics of being in deep denial of the threat, chiding them for seeking some sort of "kumbaya moment" with extremists and vowing not to bow to what he calls "political correctness."

Now the question is whether the hearings will produce a more secure nation or further alienate the roughly 2.5 million Muslims living in the country.

"I think it's legitimate to hold hearings on any aspect of radicalization, and I'm not dismissing these hearings out of hand," said Charles Kurzman, a professor of sociology at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. "At the same time, I would be concerned if an intentionally provocative approach to the hearings reduces cooperation with Muslim American communities, which is the opposite of Congress' intention."

'Going after radicals'
Proponents of the hearings insist that they are but one security discussion among many — in this case focused on young Muslim men who become radicalized and then pursue terror plots — not about all who practice the faith.

"He's not going after mainstream Muslims," said Steve Emerson, executive director of the Investigative Project on Terrorism, who has long warned about the danger posed by home-grown terrorists. "He's going after radicals."
But many Muslims, as well as leaders of other religious and legal advocates, reject the premise of the discussion — that Islam can be singled out as more prone to engender radicalization and violent extremism than other religions.
"By framing his hearings as an investigation of the American Muslim community, the implication is that we should be suspicious of our Muslim neighbors, co-workers or classmates solely on the basis of their religion," Rep. Michael Honda, D-Calif., wrote in a Feb. 28 op-ed piece in the San Francisco Chronicle.
He compared the move to the roundup of Japanese Americans during World War II that led to the three-year internment of his own family. Many civil rights groups also say the hearings set a disturbing precedent.
"Congress should not be focused on First Amendment-protected beliefs and activities," said Farhana Khera, executive director of the San Francisco-based Muslim Advocates group. "To the extent that you have Congress exploring violent extremism, it should be focused on criminal behavior. … What faith somebody practices or whatever variant someone practices would not be the proper scope for congressional review."
A coalition of 50 human and civil rights groups, religious organizations and Muslim advocacy groups appealed to King to cancel the hearings or frame them to look at all forms of violence motivated by extremist beliefs, but he rejected their call.
King and Muslims in his Long Island district say the congressman used to be a champion of the Muslim community, visiting mosques and attending their weddings and dinners. He was also one of a handful of Republicans who supported efforts to protect Muslims in the Balkans from aggression by Serbian Orthodox Christians.
But the congressman says he became bitterly disillusioned after 9-11, when some of the local imams rejected the idea that Muslims were behind the devastating attacks.


'Moral myopia'
They later recanted and denounced terrorism, but for King the events unveiled the "moral myopia … of the Muslim leaders and their apologists in the media."

King declined an interview request from msnbc.com, and he didn't answer questions submitted by e-mail. But his press secretary sent a statement on the hearings and an op-ed piece in Newsday in which the congressman describes his transformation.
King argues that the threat from Muslims in the U.S. has increased because anti-terrorism measures overseas have made it more difficult for al-Qaida and other terrorist organizations to attack the United States from abroad. As a consequence, he says, the terrorists are now focusing on indoctrinating American Muslims to carry out attacks.
He points to recent plots: The failed Times Square bombing and the Fort Hood massacre, which were perpetrated by American Muslims influenced by Anwar al-Awlaki, who was born in the United States to parents from Yemen.
After coming under scrutiny by U.S. authorities for contacts with suspected terrorists, including several of the 9/11 hijackers, he moved to Yemen in 2002 and began broadcasting his extremist views over the Internet.

Nidal Hassan, the Army major accused of shooting to death 13 people at Fort Hood in 2009, was a U.S. citizen born in the United States to parents who emigrated from Jordan. Although Hassan had exchanged email with al-Awlaki, experts have said he acted on his own.
Faisal Shahzad, who admitted attempting to detonate a car full of explosives in New York’s Times Square, is a naturalized U.S. citizen who was born in Pakistan. Shahzad trained with terrorist groups in Pakistan but told authorities that he was inspired by al-Awlaki through the Internet.
King maintains that 80 to 85 percent of mosques in the United States are led by fundamental Islamists — a figure that is broadly disputed — and thus set the stage for radicalization of young Muslims.

"Al-Qaida is recruiting right under our radar screen," King said last month in an interview with The Associated Press.
As soon as King became chair of the House Homeland Security Committee in December, he put the issue of Muslim radicalization at the top of his security agenda. He has said he intends to hold a series of hearings on the subject over the next 18 months.


By the numbers

The warnings about the threat of homegrown terrorism have grown louder over the past few years. But Kurzman, the UNC professor who specializes in Islam, said the data doesn’t support this view.
In a report published in February, Kurzman compiled the number of Muslim Americans who took part in known terror plots — both carried out and disrupted — since 2001.
There were 47 such plots in 2009, twice the number as the year before. But after that spike, the number fell again to 20 in 2010, within the range it had been in for most of the decade.
The study found that Muslims engaged in terror plots at a higher rate than non-Muslims, though still at a low level compared with overall violence in the U.S. — 33 deaths in the decade compared to 150,000 homicide deaths over the same period.
Kurzman has described the issue of radicalization as a serious but limited problem, involving a few dozen individuals over the past decade.
And he notes that of the terror plots that were disrupted, one-third to one-half of the tips to authorities came from others in the Muslim community.
"The problem of Muslim American plots has come from the fringes of the fringes of Muslim American communities," said Kurzman. "These are lone wolves and small groups, mostly disaffected from the mainstream of the local Muslim community. In some cases they have been kicked out or made to feel unwelcome in their local mosques."
"I would like to see them turn down the security paranoia," he added. "Muslims around the world are the best bulwark against terrorism, and we need to be cultivating them as allies, rather than maligning them."
John Esposito, a professor of International Affairs and Islamic Studies at Georgetown University, offered a blunter view: "Peter King is an ideologue who has hounded Muslims for years … (and) sees no reason to let facts or evidence get in the way."



Skirmish over the lineup

What comes out of the Homeland Security proceedings will in part depend on those testifying.
King bypassed all the Muslim organizations that have traditionally spoken for and about the Muslim community in the United States, including the Islamic Circle of North America, the Council on American Islamic Relations and the Muslim American Society, to name just a few.
Emerson, the terrorism analyst who is a strong supporter of King's hearings, charges that the exclusions are appropriate because these organizations are not "mainstream."
"Mainstream generally means moderate," he said. "The groups that purport to represent the 'mainstream' Muslim community are dominated by the Muslim Brotherhood" — the world's oldest and largest Islamic political organization.
He also accused the media and Muslim organizations of stirring up fear over the hearings.

"I think there's been an extraordinary McCarthyistic attack on (King) by the media and 'mainstream' Islamic groups," he said. "They are the ones sowing panic … and the media is the prism by which this panic has been magnified."
But detractors note that King also has not tapped a single imam or social service provider, or a representative from numerous "anti-radicalization" programs that Muslim American organizations have created in the past decade to keep disaffected youths from embracing terrorism.
King also took flak as it became clear that no law enforcers would be taking the stand to substantiate the claim that Muslim Americans have been uncooperative in intelligence gathering operations. He said it was not a position that his sources wanted to state publicly, because of the sensitivity.
But the lineup will include Los Angeles County Sheriff Lee Baca, who will say just the opposite — that he has nothing but excellent cooperation from Muslims in his community. He was invited to testify by minority Democrats on the committee.

A Muslim from the right

King has instead arranged for testimony from the heartbroken father of Abdulhakim Mujahid Muhammad, aka, Carlos Leon Bledsoe, responsible for the 2009 attack on an Army recruiting center in Little Rock, Ark., that killed one and wounded another.
And he will call Zudhi Jasser, an America Muslim of Syrian descent and a physician in Arizona.
Jasser set up his own nonprofit, which seeks "to shake the hold Islamist organizations and mosques have on organized Islam in America."
Jasser believes that to counter radicalization of young Muslims, Islam should be purged of Islamist politics that he says fuel anger in people like Nidal Hassan, the Fort Hood gunman.
"To measure (the threat) you can't approach it scientifically," Jasser said, referring to the data on violence committed by radicalized Muslims. "It's about countering an ideology that is at odds with Western ideals."
Jasser is a controversial figure among Muslims because of his frequent appearances on Fox News and his key role in the production of "The Third Jihad," a documentary alleging that "cultural Jihad" is being carried out by Muslim groups in the United States.
The New York Police Department used the film for training, but ended that because of complaints from both inside and outside the department.
Jasser, a Republican and former naval officer, is accustomed to the backlash against his views, but claims that there are many well-educated Muslims who share his views beliefs.

"Americans need to see that there is an anti-Islamist movement within the Muslim community," he said.
King interviewed dozens of people as candidates to testify. Many were dropped amid furious opposition: They included Ayaan Ali Hirsi, a Somalia-born Dutch woman and atheist who has declared that there is no such thing as moderate Islam; and Walid Phares, a conservative terrorism scholar and Fox News analyst.

Critics were relieved when King announced that for this first hearing, at least, he would not be bringing in two prominent pundits on Islam who have large conservative followings but are seen as hostile by many Muslims — Emerson, and Robert Spencer.
Spencer is a prolific writer on Islamic terrorism and the director of Jihad Watch, a blog that focuses on "Islamic jihadists, the motives and goals of whom are largely ignored by the Western media, to destroy their societies and bring them forcibly into the Islamic world."
Nonetheless, the line-up still points to hearings that will argue radical Islam is a clear and present danger within U.S. borders.
"Peter King's hearing is a staged event that will do little to shed light on the causes of domestic terrorism," said Esposito, the Georgetown University professor. "Instead the hearing will be a platform for Islamophobia draped in the American flag, reinforcing ignorance, stereotypes, bigotry and intolerance in the name of national security."

In advance of the hearing, some were attempting to tamp down the rhetoric.
On Sunday, the White House dispatched National Security Adviser Denis McDonough to a Washington-area mosque known for its cooperation with the FBI and its rejection of terrorism.
"Being religious is never un-American. Being religious is quintessentially American," McDonough said.
But as the hearings drew near, the volume surrounding them only seemed to build.
In New York's Times Square on Sunday and in front of King’s office, hundreds of people gathered to speak out against the hearing, criticizing it as xenophobic and divisive.
"Peter King, we are onto your game," said one protester. "Using fear and intolerance and targeting an entire community does not make any of us any safer."
 
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Drawing U.S. Crowds With Anti-Islam Message



FORT WORTH — Brigitte Gabriel bounced to the stage at a Tea Party convention last fall. She greeted the crowd with a loud Texas “Yee-HAW,” then launched into the same gripping personal story she has told in hundreds of churches, synagogues and conference rooms across the United States:

As a child growing up a Maronite Christian in war-torn southern Lebanon in the 1970s, Ms. Gabriel said, she had been left lying injured in rubble after Muslims mercilessly bombed her village. She found refuge in Israel and then moved to the United States, only to find that the Islamic radicals who had terrorized her in Lebanon, she said, were now bent on taking over America.

“America has been infiltrated on all levels by radicals who wish to harm America,” she said. “They have infiltrated us at the C.I.A., at the F.B.I., at the Pentagon, at the State Department. They are being radicalized in radical mosques in our cities and communities within the United States.”

Through her books, media appearances and speeches, and her organization, ACT! for America, Ms. Gabriel has become one of the most visible personalities on a circuit of self-appointed terrorism detectors who warn that Muslims pose an enormous danger within United States borders.

Representative Peter T. King, Republican of Long Island, will conduct hearings Thursday in Washington on a similar theme: that the United States is infiltrated by Muslim radicals. Mr. King was the first guest last month on a new cable television show that Ms. Gabriel co-hosts with Guy Rodgers, the executive director of ACT! and a Republican consultant who helped build the Christian Coalition, once the most potent political organization on the Christian right.

Ms. Gabriel, 46, who uses a pseudonym, casts her organization as a nonpartisan, nonreligious national security group. Yet the organization draws on three rather religious and partisan streams in American politics: evangelical Christian conservatives, hard-line defenders of Israel (both Jews and Christians) and Tea Party Republicans.

She presents a portrait of Islam so thoroughly bent on destruction and domination that it is unrecognizable to those who study or practice the religion. She has found a receptive audience among Americans who are legitimately worried about the spread of terrorism.

But some of those who work in counterterrorism say that speakers like Ms. Gabriel are spreading distortion and fear, and are doing the country a disservice by failing to make distinctions between Muslims who are potentially dangerous and those who are not.

Brian Fishman, a research fellow at both the New America Foundation in Washington, and the Combating Terrorism Center at the United States Military Academy at West Point, said, “When you’ve got folks who are looking for the worst in Islam and are promoting that as the entire religion of 1.5 or 1.6 billion people, then you only empower the real extremists.”

Ms. Gabriel is only one voice in a growing circuit that includes counter-Islam speakers like Pamela Geller, Robert Spencer and Walid Shoebat. What distinguishes Ms. Gabriel from her counterparts is that she has built a national grass-roots organization in the last three years that has already engaged in dozens of battles over the place of Islam in the United States. ACT! for America claims 155,000 members in 500 chapters across the country. To build her organization, Ms. Gabriel has enlisted Mr. Rodgers, who had worked behind the scenes for the Christian Coalition’s leaders, Ralph Reed and the television evangelist Pat Robertson. (Ms. Gabriel herself was once an anchor for Mr. Robertson’s Christian television network in the Middle East).

As national field director, Mr. Rodgers planted and tended Christian Coalition chapters across the country, and is now using some of the same strategies as executive director of ACT! Among those tactics is creating “nonpartisan voter guides” that rank candidates’ responses and votes on issues important to the group.

Just as with the Christian Coalition’s voter guides, the candidates whose positions most often align with ACT!’s are usually Republicans. Mr. Rodgers previously served as campaign manager for Patrick J. Buchanan’s presidential run in 1996, and as a consultant for John McCain in 2008.

Ms. Gabriel and Mr. Rodgers declined to be interviewed in person or over the telephone, but agreed to respond to questions by e-mail. They permitted interviews with only their national field director and two chapter leaders they selected, though half a dozen other interviews were conducted with chapter leaders before they were told not to talk.

Ms. Gabriel says she is motivated not by fear or hatred of Islam, but by her love for her adopted country.

“I lost Lebanon, my country of birth, to radical Islam,” she wrote. “I do not want to lose my adopted country America.”

She insists that she is singling out only “radical Islam” or Muslim “extremists” — not the vast majority of Muslims or their faith. And yet, in her speeches and her two books, she leaves the opposite impression. She puts it most simply in the 2008 introduction to her first book, “Because They Hate: A Survivor of Islamic Terror Warns America.”

“In the Muslim world, extreme is mainstream,” she wrote. She said that there is a “cancer” infecting the world, and said: “The cancer is called Islamofacism. This ideology is coming out of one source: The Koran.”

In what ACT! is calling “Open a Koran” day this September, the group plans to put up 750 tables in front of post offices, libraries, churches and synagogues and hand out leaflets selectively highlighting verses that appear to advocate violence, slavery and subjugation of women.

In the last year, the group played a key role in passing a constitutional amendment in Oklahoma banning the use of Shariah, a body of Islamic law derived from the Koran and from the Muslim prophet Muhammad’s teachings, sayings and acts. Most Muslims draw selectively on its tenets — in the same way that people of other faiths pick and choose from their sacred texts.

But group members and their allies have succeeded in popularizing the notion that American Muslims are just biding their time until they gain the power to revoke the Constitution and impose Shariah law in the United States.

“We can’t let Shariah law take hold,” said Susan Watts, who leads a large chapter in Houston.

ACT! members are challenging high school textbooks and college courses that they deem too sympathetic to Islam. A group leader in Eugene, Ore., signed up to teach a community college course on Islam, but it was canceled when a Muslim group exposed his blog postings denouncing Islam and denying the scope of the Holocaust.

A chapter in Colorado recently featured a guest speaker on “How to minister to Muslims,” and “Conversion success stories.” Mr. Rodgers said in a written response that ACT! does not encourage such activities.

Ms. Gabriel’s approach and her power appear rooted in her childhood trauma in the civil war in southern Lebanon. The war was a chaotic stew in which ever-shifting alliances of clan-based militias made up of Christian, Shiite, Sunni, Palestinian and Druse made war on one other, often with the backing of other countries. But in the rendering Ms. Gabriel shares with her American audiences, it was black and white. As her father explained to her, “The Muslims bombed us because we are Christians. They want us dead because they hate us.” (The refrain became the title of her first book.)

She moved to Israel in her early 20s to work for Middle East Television. Ms. Gabriel often mentions in lectures that she was an anchor for the network, but does not reveal that Middle East Television was then run by Pat Robertson’s Christian Broadcasting Network to spread his politically conservative, Pentecostal faith in the Middle East.

On air as a reporter, Ms. Gabriel used the name Nour Saman. She married an American co-worker and in 1989 moved to the United States. They started a film and television production company, which says it has produced programs on terrorism for “Good Morning America” and “Primetime.”

She said she uses a pseudonym, voted on by her organization’s board, because she has received death threats.

Ms. Gabriel has given hundreds of lectures, including to the Heritage Foundation and the Joint Forces Staff College in Norfolk, Va. Her salary from two organizations she founded, American Congress for Truth and ACT! for America, was $178,411 in 2009. And the group’s combined income was $1.6 million.

In Fort Worth, Ms. Gabriel spent nearly an hour after her speech signing books and posing for pictures with gushing fans.

“She really opened up my eyes about Islam,” said Natalie Rix Cresson, a composer, clutching a signed copy of Ms. Gabriel’s book. “I didn’t realize it was so infiltrated in the schools, everywhere.”
 
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Washington (CNN) -- Rep. Peter King's goal is to thwart Muslim radicalization, but some people fear his hearings could have exactly the opposite effect.
Some counterterrorism experts believe shining a harsh spotlight on the Muslim community could play into the jihadist narrative that the West is at war with Islam and encourage more people to participate in terrorist activity.
Nihad Awad, executive director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, says King is unfair if he blames the entire Muslim community for the actions of a few. "I think his approach is going to radicalize young people," says Awad.
King -- a New York Republican -- says he is holding the hearings because the Muslim community has not cooperated sufficiently with law enforcement.
On Wednesday, Attorney General Eric Holder contradicted that. "Tips we have received, information that has been shared has been critical to our efforts to disrupting plots."
But King disagrees. He characterizes New York as the "epicenter" of terrorist activity and says he is unaware of any good information coming from the Muslim community to police in the city or surrounding counties.
A recent study from the Triangle Center on Terrorism and Homeland Security said tips from the Muslim community thwarted 48 out of 120 terrorism cases involving Muslim Americans, though some experts say the data may not be complete.
Law enforcement officials say the Muslim community is key to finding and disrupting terrorist plots, but the degree of cooperation varies from community to community and mosque to mosque.
Asked whether King's hearings might have a negative impact on the outreach efforts of the FBI and other law enforcement, Holder responded indirectly, saying, "We don't want to stigmatize. We don't want to alienate entire communities."
"We need to focus on individuals or groups of individuals who might band together and who would try to harm Americans' interests or American citizens. That's what this department is doing."
King's retort: "I don't want to demonize anyone, either. But talk to [Deputy National Security Director Dennis] McDonough. He said al Qaeda is attempting to radicalize the American Muslim community. So if we are going to look for radicalization from al Qaeda, where else would we look?"
Some Muslims said they believe King's approach could backfire and diminish cooperation. "I don't know if Representative King realizes it, but that's the real danger to all of this," says Robert Marro.
Marro, a Muslim convert, worships at the All Dulles Area Muslim Society in northern Virginia. The imam at the mosque said he has made a video that attempts to counter the jihadist message and he has cooperated with the FBI and local police.
Imam Mohamed Magid says the upcoming hearing will not change his stance. "Human life is sacred, no matter who that person is. And therefore committing an act of terrorism or taking innocent life is a sin. Absolutely a sin."
Magid says King is wrong to say the Muslim community has not done enough to counter radicalization, and he fears the hearings could result in further isolation.
That worries 25-year old Yasmin Shafiq as well. She worships at the mosque.
"I can certainly see Muslims becoming more introverted and you definitely don't want introversion when it comes to issues of radicalization. You want people to be communicative and receptive and open to opinions and ideas," she says.
There is no easy way to spot someone who has been radicalized. The Muslims who have been arrested in connection with domestic terror plots have varied in age, education and sex. Some are converts, others are lifelong Muslims. Some were born overseas, others in the U.S..
There is no one path to radicalization that would allow for easy detection.
Charles Kurzman of the Triangle Center on Terrorism and Homeland Security has looked at individuals who have been radicalized and says some of them were ideologically committed and were looking for opportunities to engage in violence. Kurzman says other individuals simply may have fallen into terrorist activities by accident. He adds, "then there were others who seem to have been hangers-on, for lack of a better word."
Frank Cilluffo of George Washington University has studied radicalization. He says one of the most important things the King hearings could produce is a commitment to better understand how radicalization occurs, who is susceptible and how the jihadist message can be neutralized.
"We don't have a full honest-to-goodness, methodological approach that is empirically sound yet," Cilluffo says.
Cilluffo is not alone in thinking the hearings could have a positive impact. Other experts agree they have to the potential to build understanding. But, they warn, the tone as well as the substance will be key.
 
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Some counterterrorism experts believe shining a harsh spotlight on the Muslim community could play into the jihadist narrative that the West is at war with Islam and encourage more people to participate in terrorist activity.

Is that not obvious lol? WTF are some people thinking.
 
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Fine they should have these hearings. Then they should have hearings about Christianity and Catholicism, etc. being a threat as well.
 
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like sure she can get it, but only if i am drunk or not worried about degrading my own status at the moment.

like people talk about kim kardashian n shit but its just not for me.

im sure that sometimes ones looks makes me place filters on how i perceive their personality, but for me the personality has much more say in the matter.
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