The Sad Fact Is...

[WHITE DEVIL]

99% of rappers out there *say* they come hard, but North Cali beats and lyricists have so far put out the hardest hit shit on record. And ain't nobody even touchin what's comin out of the West and HAS BEEN comin out the west for years...

But Garbage ass cats like 50 doin it big puttin out low quality shit and thats a damn shame.

Aint nobody ever gon hear Hollow Tip Takin No Shortz or Fully Loaded albums etc... They will walk around thinkin Paul Wall or some other MTV transplant got the hardest hits out. It's just a shame.

 

[Romp707]

LOL great example using Hallow Tips annoying ass.. you can say nor-cal has some tight lyricist, but production? come on.. E-A-Ski, Rick Rock, Phonk Beta...thats about all i'm feelin... the bay area and nor cal is coming out with some B grade ass shit, and thats why it ain't blowin' up. You can clown on 50 all you want, and maybe that nigga doesnt have the most interesting shit, but he does have hooks and production that will catch on regardless of how many hate.

Nor-Cal artists kill themselves by keeping it real.. look at Mac Dre... there are so many songs that would have been classic MD cuts, but because he soiled the song with his annoying ass homies from the crest they're ruined. Dubee has ruined so many Mac Dre songs. So has most of those motherfuckers Bavgate and all them... hella gay. Same with Nickatina, letting Lolo ruin his shit... Lynch too. All those motherphuckers up north putting out B-grade. STEP YO GAME UP NIGGA!

 

[VENOM]

99% of rappers out there *say* they come hard, but North Cali beats and lyricists have so far put out the hardest hit shit on record. And ain't nobody even touchin what's comin out of the West and HAS BEEN comin out the west for years...

But Garbage ass cats like 50 doin it big puttin out low quality shit and thats a damn shame.

Aint nobody ever gon hear Hollow Tip Takin No Shortz or Fully Loaded albums etc... They will walk around thinkin Paul Wall or some other MTV transplant got the hardest hits out. It's just a shame.

Preach Folx Preach Mainstream can eat a dicc. Fucc going pop.

 

[gimpypimp]

LOL great example using Hallow Tips annoying ass..

Maybe now...but Takin' No Shortz...that album is a classic.

 

[Rasan]

its all about power and money in the music industry..
talent has nothing to do with it anymore...
if hollow did a radio song, and had enough bread, he could be on heavy rotation too

 

[WHITE DEVIL]

Right right...

My only concern that if these niggas cant go mainstream at least I hope they can take care they families and folks and shit without radio or video you smell me

 

[Rasan]

i hope so too..but its a hard market...
record sales are down ACROSS THE BOARD...
so its pretty much a person by person basis as far as if this game is being good to them as far as money ya know...and it all depends on what they do with the money they earn as well..are they investing it or saving it, or are they puttin 20's on a scraper?

 

[WHITE DEVIL]

scraper scraper cuz

lmao ya I heard that

 

[415CitiBoi]

man its bullshit cuz lotsa rappers out here in the bay got way better spitterz than mos tmainstream rappers...look at young jeezy, he can't rap for shit but his production is fuckin good...i hear a lot of bay music, and the production is good but a lot of times is missing something...i be feelin tha beat thinkin something good is comin and its the intro but really its the song....its a 50/50 chance to hear music that REALLY compares to mainstream...don't get it twisted i luv bay rap to death i try to convert listeners to bay rap ALL THE TIME, but.i mean listen to people like scott storch, his music has a lot of things going on in it in from the clap to a little whistle you barely hear....I ain't sayin that bay music gotta have a stroch storch sound to it or any other producers but to actually have that sound of quality....i mean u think of good Bay producers its EA Ski, Traxxamillion, Rob-Lo, Rick Rock.....

 

[Raphas]

LOL great example using Hallow Tips annoying ass..

yeah it's a great example Hollow Tip always bringing heat he's the sac king

 

[MOREBASS]

LOL the bay area and nor cal is coming out with some B grade ass shit, and thats why it ain't blowin' up.

Co-sign...people need to realize that...its great to root for your team but to say they're the best when YOU KNOW THEY AREN'T is a different story.

With that said....GO NINERS !!

 

[5ive1en]

Northern Cali has very few true lyricists. Aside from Yukmouth, Locksmith, The Jacka, and San Quinn, and maybe Mista F.A.B., I can't even think of anyone else.

 

[thatguy]

what are you considering a true lyricist?

 

[Rasan]

Northern Cali has very few true lyricists. Aside from Yukmouth, Locksmith, The Jacka, and San Quinn, and maybe Mista F.A.B., I can't even think of anyone else.

what about hieroglyphics...
rasco
planet asia

 

[thephantomblue0]

I forgot all about Hiero, I got luv for all the types or rap, but its hard to get people behind the backpacker type stuff, they make most their money away from Cali anyways though.

 

[KillaClown]

somehow this turned into a topic that needs to be discussed on the B.A.R.T forum.

 

[DAT NIGGA TAZZ]

i agree that hollow tip consistantly comes with heat.

but i wouldnt use paul wall as an example for a new booty mainstream cat, he been doin his thing and he finally blew up, he comes with alot of heat imo


... whoever said scott storch's production is tight i have to disagree. he is trying to copy lil jon and it aint working

 

[5ive1en]

what about hieroglyphics...
rasco
planet asia

Yea, definatly planet asia and rasco, and heiro....I also left out Ya Boy, and I'm sure some others as well..

All I'm saying is, overall, the Westcoast and South are not as dependent on lyrics as most of the Eastcoast emcee's. The West and South tend to depend more on production and style of delievery...

 

[Rasan]

Yea, definatly planet asia and rasco, and heiro....I also left out Ya Boy, and I'm sure some others as well..

All I'm saying is, overall, the Westcoast and South are not as dependent on lyrics as most of the Eastcoast emcee's. The West and South tend to depend more on production and style of delievery...

i disagree
maybe the east coast of like the mid nineties..
but name me one lyrcist from the east besides nas and papoose that are spittin

 

[yee]

Northern Cali has very few true lyricists. Aside from Yukmouth, Locksmith, The Jacka, and San Quinn, and maybe Mista F.A.B., I can't even think of anyone else.

how about rydah j klyde,sky balla,bailey,messy marv and zion i