The reason I may vote for Bush to run a second term

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May 17, 2002
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Gephardt
Kerry
Liberman

I don't find any of them that have agendas in line with my interests.

fucc that I'll sticc with criminal war starting election stealin jr. bush.

bill orielly said that condoleeza rice should run against hillary in 2008 sounds like a NICE challenge. I'd vote for Condi even though I dont trust her sellout ass either. but I do know that she's a genuine sellout so i in that am capable of predicting her actions. hillary is not as genuine as bill plus she's not a natural people person. i wouldnt vote for her unless there was a real idiot running against her and if condi doesnt run 2008.

anybody that knows anything about politics sees clearly that unless there is something miraculous that happens the dem's are not gonna win the 2004 election.
 
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XianeX said:
bill orielly said that condoleeza rice should run against hillary in 2008 sounds like a NICE challenge.
wont happen because of some1 named McCain

XianeX said:
bill orielly said that condoleeza rice should run against hillary in 2008 sounds like a NICE challenge.

I'd vote for Condi
so would i if it occured (but you already probly knew that)

XianeX said:
hillary is not as genuine as bill plus she's not a natural people person.
you think bill clinton was a genuiine person???

XianeX said:
i wouldnt vote for her unless there was a real idiot running against her and if condi doesnt run 2008.
i would rather vote for grey davis over hillary clinton. and i am from california

XianeX said:
anybody that knows anything about politics sees clearly that unless there is something miraculous that happens the dem's are not gonna win the 2004 election.
hope not.
 
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Massachusetts Senator John Kerry and former Vermont Governor Dr. Howard Dean lead in ballot preference among likely Democratic primary voters... I like them both. First off Dean is a very smart man and I agree with a lot of what he has to say and Kerry is a vietnam veteran and was really in the shit. He got wounded 3 times on gun boats going up and down rivers in vietnam. You are basically a sitting duck in those things... So I would trust him more than Bush to handle military situations because of Kerry's first hand experience... At least he wouldn't joke about war like dumbass Bush who hasn't the foggiest clue of what war is really like especially since he dodged the vietnam draft and has no real military experience...
 
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^^^ First of all Dean will NEVER win!!! he is to extreme for mainstream America

2nd. did bush really dodge the vietnam draft OR did he get into the coast gaurd??? (clinton was a draft dodger)
 
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First off Dean has a great chance to win presidency, also explain to me what you mean by too "extreme for mainstream" give me some examples...

Second why do you always bring Clinton up, he has nothing to do with this post. I swear you are a broken record. You know, you are exactly like Walter Sobchak from The Big Lebowski, but instead of Vietnam, Clinton has to do with everything, but about nothing...

But since you brought up Clinton, here is a little info for your republican heroe's:
George W. Bush: draft dodger. Dick Cheney: draft dodger. Tom DeLay: draft dodger. Trent Lott: draft dodger. And on it goes. The list of people who are bent on war, but who have never fought in one themselves, appears to be overloaded with rich, white, conservative, Christian men. Probably just coincidence, though. Right?

I am pretty sure why Bush joined the coast gaurd when he did and I can guarantee it wasn't for the experience of doing something besides sitting on his coked-up, drunk ass...
 

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bush joined the coast guard but was AWOL for a year and a half.... there is some patriotism for you. not to mention the $844 million dollars bush cut for veterans health care... good way to support the troops dubya!
 
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Xianex was talking about Hillary not being as genuine as Bill... This has nothing to do with my post that you responded to saying that he was a draft dodger. Also you never answered my question referring to why you think Howard Dean is too "extreme for mainstream"...
 
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ReservoirDog said:
Also you never answered my question referring to why you think Howard Dean is too "extreme for mainstream"...
Mcleanhatch said:
http://www.rnc.org/Newsroom/RNCResearch/research011003.htmJanuary 10, 2003
WHO IS HOWARD DEAN?
An Ultra-Liberal On Social Issues Who Is Out Of The Mainstream And Wrong For America.


DEAN IS ULTRA-LIBERAL ON CIVIL UNIONS
Governor Dean "Supported And Signed" A Law Requiring The State Of Vermont To Formally Recognize Same-Sex Civil Unions. "[Dean] supported and signed the state's famous and controversial 'civil unions' law, allowing gay and lesbian couples to participate in a formal ceremony that confers on them all the legal benefits of marriage." (David S. Broder, "For '04 Run, A Walk In Carter's Shoes," The Washington Post, July 12, 2002)

If Elected President, Dean Would Honor Civil Unions As A Matter Of National Policy. "'As president of the United States, I will recognize civil unions, which will then allow full equality under the law as far as the federal government is concerned,' Dean said in a speech to the National Lesbian and Gay Journalists Association convention in Philadelphia." (Ross Sneyd, "Dean Would Recognize Civil Unions As President," [Barre-Montpelier] Times Argus, September 14, 2002)


DEAN IS OUT OF THE MAINSTREAM ON HEALTH CARE AND TAXES
The Centerpiece Of Governor Dean's Presidential Platform Is Budget-Busting Universal Health Care.

Dean Has Said He Would Repeal Most Of President Bush's Tax Cut In Order To Fund His National Health Insurance Program. "Dean not only advocates universal health insurance but also tells audiences that Vermont already has moved in that direction. . . . How to pay for this? Simple, says Dean. Roll back virtually all of President Bush's tax cut of 2001 . . . ." (David S. Broder, "For '04 Run, A Walk In Carter's Shoes," The Washington Post, July 12, 2002)


DEAN OPPOSED BIPARTISAN EDUCATION REFORM
Governor Dean Routinely Attacks President Bush's Bipartisan Education Reform.

To Avoid The Accountability Requirements Of The New Law, Dean Threatened To Refuse Federal Title I Money For The Poorest Of Vermont's Schoolchildren. "The Bush education plan is a bad plan . . . . [W]hat we are looking at in Vermont is not accepting the money . . . ." (Caryn Rousseau, "New England Governor Tests Waters In Arkansas," The Associated Press, August 16, 2002)


DEAN IS ULTRA-LIBERAL ON ABORTION
As Governor, Dean "Impressed Feminists By Opposing Occasional Legislative Efforts At Restricting Abortion." (Jonathan Cohn, "Invisible Man," The New Republic, July 1, 2002)

Dean Supports Abortion On Demand, Which He Believes Is "None Of The Government's Business." (NBC's "Meet The Press," July 21, 2002)



AT ODDS WITH FELLOW DEMOCRATS

On Freezing The Tax Cut

Dean Disagrees With Every Other Major Democrat Candidate On The Tax Cut. Dean is the only candidate advocating a repeal of most of the President's tax cuts, while Kerry, Lieberman, and Edwards have called for freezing various portions of the tax relief act. Gephardt has not taken a clear position on freezing or repealing the tax cut. (NBC's "Meet The Press," July 21, 2002; NBC's "Meet The Press," December 1, 2002; NBC's "Meet The Press," October 6, 2002; CNN's "Late Edition With Wolf Blitzer," October 13, 2002; Ronald Brownstein, "Lieberman Urges Tax Cut Rollback," The Los Angeles Times, May 21, 2002)

On Education

Dean Disagrees With Kerry, Lieberman, Edwards, And Gephardt On The Bipartisan Education Reform Law. Deanrepeatedly criticizes the No Child Left Behind Act, which he calls a "terrible mistake." But Kerry, Lieberman, Edwards, and Gephardt each voted for the bill. (Krista Larson, "State Awarded Federal Education Funds," The Associated Press, July 11, 2002; H.R. 1, House Roll Call #497: Passed 381-41: R 183-33; D 198-6; I 0-2, December 13, 2001; H.R. 1, Senate Roll Call #371: Passed 87-10: R 44-3; D 43-6; I 0-1, December 18, 2001; Public Law No. 107-110, January 8, 2002)

On Gay Marriage

Dean Disagrees With Lieberman, And Gephardt On Gay Marriage. Deansigned legislation that extends all the legal benefits of marriage to gay couples in Vermont. However, Lieberman, and Gephardt all voted in favor of the 1996 "Defense of Marriage Act." (David S. Broder, "For '04 Run, A Walk In Carter's Shoes," The Washington Post, July 12, 2002; H.R. 3396, Senate Vote #280: Passed 85-14: R 53-0; D 32-14, September 10, 1996; H.R. 3396, House Vote #316: Passed 342-67: R 224-1; D 118-65, July 12, 1996)

On Balancing The Budget

Dean Disagrees With Lieberman, Kerry, And Gephardt On Balancing The Federal Budget. Dean is campaigning on the claim that he will bring a balanced budget to Washington, and he supported the 1995 attempt to create a constitutional amendment requiring a balanced budget. But Lieberman, Kerry, and Gephardt each voted against balanced budget legislation. (NBC's "Meet The Press," July 21, 2002; CNN's "Crossfire," February 28, 1995;S.J. Res. 1, Vote #24: Rejected 66-34: R 55-0; D 11-34, March 4, 1997; H.J. Res. 1, Vote #158: Rejected 64-35: R 52-1; D 12-34, June 6, 1996; H.J. Res. 1, Vote #98: Rejected 65-35: R 51-2; D 14-33, March 2, 1995; H.J. Res. 103, Vote #65: Rejected 271-153: R 172-1; D 99-151; I 0-1, March 17, 1994)

On Fast Track Trade Authority

Dean Disagrees With Kerry, And Lieberman On Giving Fast Track Trade Negotiating Authority To President Bush. While Dean supported fast track trade authority under President Clinton, he has since changed his position, telling unions and other interest groups that he would not vote to give such trade negotiating power to President Bush unless strong labor and environmental standards were guaranteed by the bill. Senators Kerry, and Lieberman voted for the Trade Act of 2002, which gave fast track trade authority to President Bush. (David S. Broder, "For '04 Run, A Walk In Carter's Shoes," The Washington Post, July 12, 2002; H.R. 3009, CQ Vote #207: Adopted 64-34: R 43-5; D 20-29; I 1-0, August 1, 2002)