The origin of xmass

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I found this on the intranet...


The Origin Of Christmas

Christmas is a holiday shared and celebrated by many religions.

It is a day that has an effect on the entire world.

To many people, it is a favorite time of the year involving gift giving, parties and feasting. Christmas is a holiday that unifies almost all of professing Christendom.

The spirit of Christmas causes people to decorate their homes and churches, cut down trees and bring them into their homes, decking them with silver and gold.

In the light of that tree, families make merry and give gifts one to another.

When the sun goes down on December 24th, and darkness covers the land, families and churches prepare for participation in customs such as burning the yule log, singing around the decorated tree, kissing under the mistletoe and holly, and attending a late night service or midnight mass.

What is the meaning of Christmas? Where did the customs and traditions originate?

You, as a Christian, would want to worship the Lord in Spirit and in truth, discerning good from evil.

The truth is that all of the customs of Christmas pre-date the birth of Jesus Christ, and a study of this would reveal that
Christmas in our day is a collection of traditions and practices taken from many cultures and nations.

The date of December 25th comes from Rome and was a celebration of the Italic god, Saturn, and the rebirth of the sun god.

This was done long before the birth of Jesus.

It was noted by the pre-Christian Romans and other pagans, that daylight began to increase after December 22nd, when they assumed that the sun god died.

These ancients believed that the sun god rose from the dead three days later as the new-born and venerable sun.

Thus, they figured that to be the reason for increasing daylight.

This was a cause for much wild excitement and celebration. Gift giving and merriment filled the temples of ancient Rome, as sacred priests of Saturn, called dendrophori, carried wreaths of evergreen boughs in procession.

In Germany, the evergreen tree was used in worship and celebration of the yule god, also in observance of the resurrected sun god.

The evergreen tree was a symbol of the essence of life and was regarded as a phallic symbol in fertility worship.

Witches and other pagans regarded the red holly as a symbol of the menstrual blood of the queen of heaven, also known as Diana.

The holly wood was used by witches to make wands.

The white berries of mistletoe were believed by pagans to represent droplets of the semen of the sun god.

Both holly and mistletoe were hung in doorways of temples and homes to invoke powers of fertility in those who stood beneath and kissed, causing the spirits of the god and goddess to enter them.

These customs transcended the borders of Rome and Germany to the far reaches of the known world.

The question now arises: How did all of these customs find their way into contemporary Christianity, ranging from Catholicism to Protestantism to fundamentalist churches?

The word "Christmas"itself reveals who married paganism to Christianity.

The word "Christmas" is a combination of the words "Christ" and "Mass.

The word "Mass" means death and was coined originally by the Roman Catholic Church, and belongs exclusively to the church of Rome.

The ritual of the Mass involves the death of Christ, and the distribution of the "Host", a word taken from the Latin word "hostiall" meaning victim!

In short, Christmas is strictly a Roman Catholic word.

A simple study of the tactics of the Romish Church reveals that in every case, the church absorbed the customs, traditions and general paganism of every tribe, culture and nation in their efforts to increase the number of people under their control.

In short, the Romish church told all of these pagan cultures, "Bring your gods, goddesses, rituals and rites, and we will assign Christian sounding titles and names to them.

When Martin Luther started the reformation on October 31st, 1517, and other reformers followed his lead, all of them took with them the paganism that was so firmly imbedded in Rome.

These reformers left Christmas intact.

In England, as the authorized Bible became available to the common people by the decree of King James the II in 1611, people began to discover the pagan roots of Christmas, which are clearly revealed in Scripture.

The Puritans in England, and later in Massachusetts Colony, outlawed this holiday as witchcraft.

Near the end of the nineteenth century, when other Bible versions began to appear, there was a revival of the celebration of Christmas.

We are now seeing ever-increasing celebrating of Christmas or Yule, its true name, as we draw closer to the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ!

In both witchcraft circles and contemporary Christian churches, the same things are going on.

As the Bible clearly states in Jeremiah 10:2-4, "Thus saith the Lord, learn not the way of the heathen; and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven. For the heathen are dismayed at them. For the customs of the people are vain. For one cutteth a tree out of the forest. The work of the hands of the workman with the axe. They deck it with silver and with gold. They fasten it with nails and with hammers that it move not."

So, what is wrong with Christmas?

1. To say that Jesus was born on December 25th is a lie! The true date is sometime in September according to the Scriptures.

2. Trees, wreaths, holly, mistletoe and the like are strictly forbidden as pagan and heathen! To say that these are Christian or that they can be made Christian is a lie!

3. The Lord never spoke of commemorating his birth but rather commanded us to remember the sacrifice of His suffering and death, which purchased our salvation.

Think about it! Can we worship and honor God by involving ourselves with customs and traditions, which God Himself forbade as idolatry? Can we convince God to somehow "Christianize" these customs and the whole pretense and lie of Christmas, so we can enjoy ourselves? Can we obey through disobedience?

So what is right about Christmas? 1. Nothing!

For more information and documentation contact:

Last Trumpet Ministries International
PO Box 806
Beaver Dam, WI 53916
 

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THANKS FOR SHEDDIN' LIgHT ON THE BULLSHIT. MUCH PROPS. LET ME ALSO ADD THAT OTHA CUSTOMS THAT ARE PART OF CHRISTMAS CAME FROM OTHA PLACES. LIKE THE DECORATION OF THE TREE. FOR INSTANCE, HAVIN' A STAR ON TOP OF THE TREE CAME FROM THE VIKINgS, WHO ORIgINALLY PUT THE HEAD OF THEIR ENEMIES ON TOP OF THE TREE. AND THE POPCORN AROUND THE TREE WAS ORIgINALLY THE gUTS.

REgARDLESS,
CHRISTMAS IS WHAT IT IS NOW(A DAY FOR COMMERCIALISM AND gREED) AND MUTHA-FUKAS JUST gO WITH THE FLOW.
 
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I think Christmas has been taken over by corporate avarice and consumer greed. How many of you Christians will be in church on the 25th to celebrate the true meaning?
 
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I like xmas. Mainly because I get time off work. This year I get about a week and a half off, paid. I also like seeing my family.

I fucking hate the corporate side of it. Xmas started before thanksgiving this year, which is fucking absurd.

We are told we have to buy gifts for our loved ones, family and friends. If we dont we dont care about them. Yeah right, I try and do shit for my loved ones on a daily basis, not once a year.

Shit, everyone knows how it is going to the mall on a weekend in Dec. Shit is fucking insane. Last year I almost killed myself in the Bon. Spent 6 hrs in the mall and didn't buy anything. This year I bought my gifts online, in Oct.
 
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Ive seen past the X-Mas bullshit for awhile, I just feel like X-Mas is a good time to recognize your family and friends by giving them things. Our country is capitalist and individualist in nature, x-mas is really the perfect way to balance that out. We work all year for money to buy ourselves things and forget about loved ones around us, then one month out of the year we try and make up for it so we can start doing it all over again. God Bless America.
 

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TOKZTLI,
WHAT YOU MEAN REAL MEANIN' OF CHRISTMAS? CHRISTMAS IS FAKE FROM JUMP AND THAT'S WHY THE SHIT HAS TURNED INTO WHAT IT IS. IT IS A DAY FOR SELF INDULgENCE AND gREED.
 
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EDJ said:
TOKZTLI,
WHAT YOU MEAN REAL MEANIN' OF CHRISTMAS? CHRISTMAS IS FAKE FROM JUMP AND THAT'S WHY THE SHIT HAS TURNED INTO WHAT IT IS. IT IS A DAY FOR SELF INDULgENCE AND gREED.

Christmas to a Christian is the birth of Christ.
 

Mac Jesus

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Nah, man didn't you read the article. Christmas is about the birth of the new sun god. For a Christian to follow the ways of christmas, is to follow paganism. Paganism does not equate as Christianity, the pagans didn't want to give up the celebrations on the 25th when they converted to the new religion. Jesus Christ was never even born on Christmas, Jesus Christ was probably born in March or April or some other Month that wasn't during the winter time. I think that's why EDJ says christmas was fake from the jump, it's not really about Jesus Christ it's about Paganism. I ain't big up on the bible, i've only read it a few times and maybe someone who is more religious can point it out, or correct me. But i'm pretty sure that following paganism, isn't something the bible condones. I'm pretty sure the bible even says something about not worshipping god the way other god's are worshipped. Like in this case with the sun god.
 

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On a side note I have to do all my Xmas shopping today. The stores are going to be so crowded. Damn, this new sun god being born every year is going to eat away at my bank account. And who is the daddy? We may never know.
 

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^NO ONE KNOWS THE EXACT DATE, BUT IT COULDN'T OF BEEN IN THE WINTER OR DECEMBER 25TH. BUT IF YOU ABOUT WHAT SCRIPTURE SAYS, IT SAYS THAT THE SHEEP WERE STILL OUT gRAZIN' AT NIgHT. AND THAT SHIT AIN'T HAPPENIN' IN NO WINTER. BUT IT AIN'T BULLSHIT. CHRISTMAS IS BASED ON BAD INFORMATION AND PAgAN ADAPTATION, THUS MAKIN' IT A TRADITION. IF YOU WAS WARM AND COZY IN SOME PILE OF SHIT, WOULD YOU gET UP AND LEAVE IT?
 

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Like EDJ stated Jesus's birthday ain't mentioned in the bible, in fact no where in the bible does it even mention his birthday being celebrated or having any kind of signifigance. It's a pagan tradition passed on, it ain't the birth of Jesus it's the birth of the sun god.

If I was a Christian I would refuse to celebrate Christmas, but since I belong to no religion I will continue to buy gifts for the loved ones who I forget about the rest of the year. Because I need a special day and time of year to consume like crazy and buy buy buy my loved ones love.