The Official 2011 Los Angeles Lakers Offseason Thread
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The Lakers drafted Marc Gasol 48th overall but had no idea he was good. Okay. But that's not even the most ignorant thing you said. Because it's not the Lakers who need to think he's good when they are the team trying to trade him away. Last, you had never seen him play in your life when that trade went down, but you know/knew he was trash. Okay.
This is exactly why people like you should stick to shit talking.
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This is exactly why people like you should stick to shit talking.
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WELL OF COURSE THEY LIKED HIM DUMBASS BUT THEY SURE DIDN'T THINK HE WAS GOOD ENOUGH TO KEEP AROUND, IF THEY KNEW HE WAS GONNA BE A PLAYER THEY WOULD HAVE KEPT HIM DUMBASS, JERRY WEST JUST GAVE YALL GASOL, STOP ACTING LIKE YOUR TEAM DOESN'T GET CHEATED FOR, THEY ALWAYS SOMEHOW END UP WITH A GOOD PLAYER WHEN THEY SHOULDN'T THEY ALWAYS GET CALLS TO GO THEIR WAY AT THE END OF GAMES AND YALL JUST GOT SCRAPED NOTHING YOUR REFS COULD DO ABOUT YOU STUPID BITCH DON'T EVER QUESTION MY KNOWLEDGE
Pau wants to play for the Spanish National team this offseason...think it's a good thing...get his shit together and some confidence...
Am I the only one that doesn't want to get Howard..I mean it would be great i guess. But our Big situation is fine...we NEED a better perimeter...BADLY...thats what our weakness has been for years now and it has now gotten to where Kobe can't hide D fish as our PG anymore..Kobe cant have a Jordan role, a Pippen role, and a PG role on our perimeter anymore...he's is slowing down and we need to get the most out of the time he has left.
Shooters, Speed, and a REAL PG for once will do wonders.
Am I the only one that doesn't want to get Howard..I mean it would be great i guess. But our Big situation is fine...we NEED a better perimeter...BADLY...thats what our weakness has been for years now and it has now gotten to where Kobe can't hide D fish as our PG anymore..Kobe cant have a Jordan role, a Pippen role, and a PG role on our perimeter anymore...he's is slowing down and we need to get the most out of the time he has left.
Shooters, Speed, and a REAL PG for once will do wonders.
Im liking the Mike Brown hiring more and more as time goes by. We also picked up Ettore Messina as a 'consultant' who will be there at the practices...definately excited about that. Dude is an X/O type of guy from Europe, that will definately be the main guy with the offense since that isn't Mike Brown's forte.
Interesting article I came across from the LA times..
http://lakersblog.latimes.com/laker...n.html?cid=6a00d8341c506253ef01538f2b4628970b
Excuse the Length - I rarely do this:
I know everyone is stepping on LeBron today -- and I never like getting too high or too low about this stuff, or anything in life for that matter, because people who continuously overreact one way or another are really nothing more than puppets -- politics is a great example of this.
Having said that - I think I'm talking objectively and with perspective when I say I don't think I've ever seen what I saw last night. And I'm only in part talking about the game, because many, many players check out. Kobe was accused of it against Sacramento and against Phoenix. But that LeBron news conference was astounding.
Of course there was the part where he implied that our life sucks compared to his - and it probably does - but the strangest thing is his comment that he does not listen critics about his game. Many players have said something similar in the past - usually when they have finally won and usually it's in the context of "I never let the critics get me down or take my eye off the prize" - but this was different, I truly believed LeBron when he said that he didn't listen to critics! My immediate reaction is: how are you suppose to get better?
I'm not going to compare LeBron to Kobe and MJ on the floor - My comparison is more academic. The two things that stick out most to me about Kobe is, strangely, a regular season game against the Warriors - wasn't even a championship season - I don't believe. Lakers were fighting for Playoff seeding - it was a tough back and forth game - finally Lakers took control and Kobe went to the line to ice it. No one - I mean no one- form the warriors was looking or talking to Kobe -- Kobe just kept saying "game over - game over" Not one warrior talked back to Kobe. The second one is where Kobe was being buried by Barkley in 2010 and Kobe just went off - After the Lakers eliminated Utah - Deron Williams was asked why Utah lost the series - All Deron said was "Chuck woke up Kobe."
MJ was very similar - At MJ's hall of fame speech (5 years after retirement) he was still spewing venom at his critics. You can appreciate how much it got to him and how much he was motivated by them.
But LeBron does not care what his critics say?? There are a few different ways people handle criticism (1) internalize it and get better, (2) dismiss it as BS because you already understand where the criticism is coming from, which requires introspection, or (3) Deflect it like a mirror. LeBron is deflecting criticism - and not getting any better in the process. That is the epitome of not being coachable or teachable -- Of course Kobe is accused of this by people who don't understand this either. Criticism is beneficial, provided you have to have the psychology to use it. LeBron would rather shield it away. MJ and Kobe used criticism as fuel - not only as isolated motivation - but to get better. DeShawn Stevenson destroyed LeBron verbally throughout the series – even posting on facebook that LeBron was over rated – LeBron didn’t respond – he didn’t respond where it matters most – on the floor.
LeBron needs a mid range game - most critics have said that now - although a few were saying that even as long ago as 2007. But I'm interested in testing my theory next year. If LeBron still has no mid-range game after 8 years in the league - there is no other conclusion to draw but he truly is uncoachable!
http://lakersblog.latimes.com/laker...n.html?cid=6a00d8341c506253ef01538f2b4628970b
Excuse the Length - I rarely do this:
I know everyone is stepping on LeBron today -- and I never like getting too high or too low about this stuff, or anything in life for that matter, because people who continuously overreact one way or another are really nothing more than puppets -- politics is a great example of this.
Having said that - I think I'm talking objectively and with perspective when I say I don't think I've ever seen what I saw last night. And I'm only in part talking about the game, because many, many players check out. Kobe was accused of it against Sacramento and against Phoenix. But that LeBron news conference was astounding.
Of course there was the part where he implied that our life sucks compared to his - and it probably does - but the strangest thing is his comment that he does not listen critics about his game. Many players have said something similar in the past - usually when they have finally won and usually it's in the context of "I never let the critics get me down or take my eye off the prize" - but this was different, I truly believed LeBron when he said that he didn't listen to critics! My immediate reaction is: how are you suppose to get better?
I'm not going to compare LeBron to Kobe and MJ on the floor - My comparison is more academic. The two things that stick out most to me about Kobe is, strangely, a regular season game against the Warriors - wasn't even a championship season - I don't believe. Lakers were fighting for Playoff seeding - it was a tough back and forth game - finally Lakers took control and Kobe went to the line to ice it. No one - I mean no one- form the warriors was looking or talking to Kobe -- Kobe just kept saying "game over - game over" Not one warrior talked back to Kobe. The second one is where Kobe was being buried by Barkley in 2010 and Kobe just went off - After the Lakers eliminated Utah - Deron Williams was asked why Utah lost the series - All Deron said was "Chuck woke up Kobe."
MJ was very similar - At MJ's hall of fame speech (5 years after retirement) he was still spewing venom at his critics. You can appreciate how much it got to him and how much he was motivated by them.
But LeBron does not care what his critics say?? There are a few different ways people handle criticism (1) internalize it and get better, (2) dismiss it as BS because you already understand where the criticism is coming from, which requires introspection, or (3) Deflect it like a mirror. LeBron is deflecting criticism - and not getting any better in the process. That is the epitome of not being coachable or teachable -- Of course Kobe is accused of this by people who don't understand this either. Criticism is beneficial, provided you have to have the psychology to use it. LeBron would rather shield it away. MJ and Kobe used criticism as fuel - not only as isolated motivation - but to get better. DeShawn Stevenson destroyed LeBron verbally throughout the series – even posting on facebook that LeBron was over rated – LeBron didn’t respond – he didn’t respond where it matters most – on the floor.
LeBron needs a mid range game - most critics have said that now - although a few were saying that even as long ago as 2007. But I'm interested in testing my theory next year. If LeBron still has no mid-range game after 8 years in the league - there is no other conclusion to draw but he truly is uncoachable!
