shit is pretty bunk! i know sd has got to be one of the hardest citys for up and koming artist to kome up in. its like ive went to hella venues to try and throw my own show and the klubs/bars are like nope we dont deal with local rap.sd niggas gotta start putting that bangin shit to the side and start koming together to make this shit pop because if not were never gonna get the shine that we all deserve. just my 2sense lets get this money together because if not itll pretty much be like the last of a dying breed
the lack of rap/hip hop shows in sd
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yeah...Funk has closed alot of doors for Hip Hop in this city...
also.... Rappers & Hip Hop heads don't drink alot..compared to other groups they can attract to the venues....so it's not easy for them to justify the risk of violence, with high bar sales.
The Ends just doesn't justify the means, especially for just little local showcases.
and most Hip Hop promoters have turned to "Pay to Play" to cover the ridiculous festival prices these MC's expect to get for an engagment.
what needs to happen is the SD Promoters need to stop paying these headliners $800-$1000 when they only pull 50 people to the venue...and then they have to cover the rest of the overhead with the hungry local artist selling pre-sales.
it's really only about getting your music heard....cause in the past 10 years the music industry has declined over 50% in the revenue department.
sorry for the lecture...just something I feel strongly about...
respect
CALI-FOREIGNER DROPS- 5/4/2010
also.... Rappers & Hip Hop heads don't drink alot..compared to other groups they can attract to the venues....so it's not easy for them to justify the risk of violence, with high bar sales.
The Ends just doesn't justify the means, especially for just little local showcases.
and most Hip Hop promoters have turned to "Pay to Play" to cover the ridiculous festival prices these MC's expect to get for an engagment.
what needs to happen is the SD Promoters need to stop paying these headliners $800-$1000 when they only pull 50 people to the venue...and then they have to cover the rest of the overhead with the hungry local artist selling pre-sales.
it's really only about getting your music heard....cause in the past 10 years the music industry has declined over 50% in the revenue department.
sorry for the lecture...just something I feel strongly about...
respect
CALI-FOREIGNER DROPS- 5/4/2010
I think the trouble that follows acts hits many places. Jacka had a show in KC, someone brought a gun and accidently shot himself.
Hondo is a promoter in Sacramento and he put on a show and was stabbed multiple times after the show I believe..
I dont think this is anything new.. didnt Snoop, Kurupt and Daz get chased out (Daz being stomped out?) as well as back when NWA came out, Lincoln and Skyline were there given them the bidness?
I guess everywhere is "Jus like Compton".
this is and will be another big hurdle for artists.. since I feel that live shows are a great way to get your name known and get paid... its also a way for kats to confront artists and fuck up a show.
Hondo is a promoter in Sacramento and he put on a show and was stabbed multiple times after the show I believe..
I dont think this is anything new.. didnt Snoop, Kurupt and Daz get chased out (Daz being stomped out?) as well as back when NWA came out, Lincoln and Skyline were there given them the bidness?
I guess everywhere is "Jus like Compton".
this is and will be another big hurdle for artists.. since I feel that live shows are a great way to get your name known and get paid... its also a way for kats to confront artists and fuck up a show.
I disagree about the setting the bangin aside..I was going to local venues in the 80's..king T..N.W.A..Ice T and it used to be active. As long as the venues are making good money they dont give a fuck about who performin I think the biggest problem is too many wack shows. No disrespect to you..but who are you? My thought is aimed towards the average club goer in the city..if they passed by a venue and seen your name..why would they attend if they never heard of you?
My next thought is times changed and I aint even talking about the sound of music...It used to be the streets dictated what was hot ...nowadays its the major label corporations who impact the radio station so heavily that people are not anxious for the next thing poppin...Shit I wanted to bump what no one else was bumpin in the ride coming up. Now we have people eager to hear another Snoop album...and get excited when DPG gets back together makin music with snoop...that mentality leaves no healthy room for growth in the industry for up and coming artists....
Last set up a meeting with the venue owners and a business plan that makes sense for all parties, and last case scenario have one of the homies mention that there might not be anyone performing if yall aint performing...Say you wont be able to control the other homies who will be upset with the club and they got some itchy trigger fingers..hahaha
My next thought is times changed and I aint even talking about the sound of music...It used to be the streets dictated what was hot ...nowadays its the major label corporations who impact the radio station so heavily that people are not anxious for the next thing poppin...Shit I wanted to bump what no one else was bumpin in the ride coming up. Now we have people eager to hear another Snoop album...and get excited when DPG gets back together makin music with snoop...that mentality leaves no healthy room for growth in the industry for up and coming artists....
Last set up a meeting with the venue owners and a business plan that makes sense for all parties, and last case scenario have one of the homies mention that there might not be anyone performing if yall aint performing...Say you wont be able to control the other homies who will be upset with the club and they got some itchy trigger fingers..hahaha
Yeah that pay to play...yall gettin pimped whoever does this....and i know alot who do. I understand the concept but it goes back to people outside the industry callin the shots..yeah they own the club but if you a factor they have little choice but to fuck with you..and I aint necessarily talking about bangin there are more ways then one to influence peoples decisions but so many people are quick to whine about problems but never try and figure out solutions.
The thing is it should be a partnership in that all parties should be responsible to bring in clientele..and Im not talkin pre-sale tickets....The shoe fits on both feet..Why would I want to perform at a club that cant bring in clientele and why would the owner want an artists no one cares for.
Also everything starts from an idea..ya want to open a club..thats the idea...you make a plan to get people in to make money...execute the plan if it works good and make adjustments if necessary. I say this because unless a venue is bringing in more people then they can handle on a consistent basis then the owner needs ways to increase their clientele so bring a plan...not a one show plan..because this plan needs time to grow as word of mouth spreads
Also everything starts from an idea..ya want to open a club..thats the idea...you make a plan to get people in to make money...execute the plan if it works good and make adjustments if necessary. I say this because unless a venue is bringing in more people then they can handle on a consistent basis then the owner needs ways to increase their clientele so bring a plan...not a one show plan..because this plan needs time to grow as word of mouth spreads
THANK YOU! thats why I NEVER DO THAT SHIT
me and chrymes had a discussion about that a few years ago and i understand his hustle, cuz he's a solo promoter
but fucc that!
im laughin at these niggaz spendin 300 to open for glasses malone next month
and 400 to open for WC
thats bullshit, a muthafucca actually asked me to pay 750 to open for nipsey hussle last year!!!! i almost slapped the faggot, LMAO
me and chrymes had a discussion about that a few years ago and i understand his hustle, cuz he's a solo promoter
but fucc that!
im laughin at these niggaz spendin 300 to open for glasses malone next month
and 400 to open for WC
thats bullshit, a muthafucca actually asked me to pay 750 to open for nipsey hussle last year!!!! i almost slapped the faggot, LMAO
well 50 cal i agree on alot of points your hitting, but on the note of who im am....im from sd but have been gone for awhile and have been back for about 4yrs now and i just moved back out here from the dirty south(atl,nola,alabama) and have been doing my thang for a minute.but now im back in sd and trying to do work with artist from all kind of areas in sd so i can take this shit back out there and let em know what it really do with this west koast shit. my thing about the show tip is i got niggas thats KNOWN in sd to la that are down to fuck me on some shows to get some shit kracking but niggas done burnt out spots so bad that alot peeps be like we'd rather mess with top 40 rock or techno.just sad to see that i kant just go to a show and here what me and the streets wanna hear on a weekly bi weekly basis basically
San Diego is a city that creeps up on u the nice beaches and palm trees really makes a person feel comfortable, i'm glad the dogg pound got fucked up in San Diego that is just a slap to all the haters and every ignorant person from LA that thinks they know it all and have seen it all. Give the city its respect. If u wanna do some shows fuck doin em local go like Mitchy Slick and go cross country.
You can do shows any where and make money. You just gotta look at the long run like 50 said. Most importantly, you gotta branch out beyond the city gates and kome back. Are you tryna throw shows to get your performance career poppin, or throwin shows to fatten yo pocket. Either way you still spendin hella cheese.
I look at it like this. If you wanna throw shows in Daygo ro simply get it poppin, don't do it looking to make money. If you wanna do it to perform, drop a cd and beat yo feet and get cha buzz and paper up, along with any other hustle you might partake...lol. Then you will have more leverage approaching these club owners. But if you lookin to put the city on....
Free Shows with LOTS of security. Thats the only way I see it. Make sure you have good, qualified, opening acts. Make sure security is present. Plug with the Bar and see what it do. Then you will draw things toward it that can make it bigger. I.E. Sponsorships, etc. But something on that accord cant happen with one promoter. It takes a TEAM of individuals makin it happen. With teams of their own. Ya know, a conglomerate of sorts. Only thing is it kan't be money motivated. Kan Daygo really do that? If so, i'm wit it....
I look at it like this. If you wanna throw shows in Daygo ro simply get it poppin, don't do it looking to make money. If you wanna do it to perform, drop a cd and beat yo feet and get cha buzz and paper up, along with any other hustle you might partake...lol. Then you will have more leverage approaching these club owners. But if you lookin to put the city on....
Free Shows with LOTS of security. Thats the only way I see it. Make sure you have good, qualified, opening acts. Make sure security is present. Plug with the Bar and see what it do. Then you will draw things toward it that can make it bigger. I.E. Sponsorships, etc. But something on that accord cant happen with one promoter. It takes a TEAM of individuals makin it happen. With teams of their own. Ya know, a conglomerate of sorts. Only thing is it kan't be money motivated. Kan Daygo really do that? If so, i'm wit it....
