The countries Al-Queda encourage attacks in

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May 16, 2002
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In a recent speech al-Zawahiri said :


"O Muslims, take matters firmly against the embassies of America, England, Australia, and Norway and their interests, companies, and employees.
Do not allow the Americans, the British, the Australians, the Norwegians, and the other crusaders who killed your brothers in Iraq to live in your countries, enjoy their resources, and wreak havoc in them."




One thing that seems odd is that Norway is included on the list, because they didn't support the war against Iraq.
They did on the other hand participate in the war in Afghanistan but that did a lot of other countries too.
Anyone here got any theories?
 
Jul 6, 2002
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Droopy Eye said:
Anyone here got any theories?
Sure. I believe that the religion of islam, and both shi'ite and sunni sects, are foolish to belong to. Not only do they write off the True Everlasting Savior in the flesh as just another "phophet of Allah," but they follow the same footsteps as King Solomon in that they seek wisdom when they really need to reevaluate thier belief system. They claim to be nonviolent when the quaran actually states that it is a holy duty to god for muslims to kill "infedels," or any non muslim. What kind of script is that?!?!

:rolleyes:
 
Jul 24, 2002
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^^^^
There's contradictions to that.
It also says that a Muslims has to respect someone else's beliefs.
But then it says stuff that contradicts that....

The very first chapter did it for me.
I haven't mentioned this to anyone but I think it's the smoking gun for none believers of the Qur'an....
It states that "all" Christians believe that Christianity is the only way to make it to Heaven.
Now that claim is an incorrect assumption by someone who doesn't fully understand Christianity.
Why is it important? Because Mohammed claims that the Qur'an is the true word of God. So is it safe to say that God can make incorrect assumptions????

Anyways, the quote above is a clear example of how certain individuals will twist shit around in order to best suite their agendas. Mohammed never instructed Muslims to kill innocent civilians....
 
May 13, 2002
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Re: Re: The countries Al-Queda encourage attacks in

FoeTwin said:


Sure. I believe that the religion of islam, and both shi'ite and sunni sects, are foolish to belong to. Not only do they write off the True Everlasting Savior in the flesh as just another "phophet of Allah," but they follow the same footsteps as King Solomon in that they seek wisdom when they really need to reevaluate thier belief system. They claim to be nonviolent when the quaran actually states that it is a holy duty to god for muslims to kill "infedels," or any non muslim. What kind of script is that?!?!

:rolleyes:
I believe it’s just as foolish to belong to the religion of christianity. Both the bible and the quaran are full of violence and brutality, along with false hopes and dreams that have contaminated the minds of millions of people across this planet. These so called books are responsible for more mayhem and destruction then any other single cause earth has ever seen. It’s a shame that some humans find it necessary to take orders from a book that was written thousands of years ago by many authors who were recording oral tradition that existed many years before. I can only hope that us humans will evolve into something more sophisticated.



"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, "mad cow" disease, and many others, but I think a case can be made that faith is one of the world's great evils, comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to eradicate."
Richard Dawkins
 
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FoeTwin said:


They claim to be nonviolent when the quaran actually states that it is a holy duty to god for muslims to kill "infedels," or any non muslim. What kind of script is that?!?!

:rolleyes:
Do some research before you make claims like that. I bet if you took the Bible out of context like that you could find a similar quote. I am a Muslim and I have never been taught to kill all the infidels or anything close to that. Islam is a religion that tolerates other religions. Don't believe everything the media tells you.
 
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2-0-Sixx said:


I believe it’s just as foolish to belong to the religion of christianity. Both the bible and the quaran are full of violence and brutality, along with false hopes and dreams that have contaminated the minds of millions of people across this planet. These so called books are responsible for more mayhem and destruction then any other single cause earth has ever seen. It’s a shame that some humans find it necessary to take orders from a book that was written thousands of years ago by many authors who were recording oral tradition that existed many years before. I can only hope that us humans will evolve into something more sophisticated.



"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, "mad cow" disease, and many others, but I think a case can be made that faith is one of the world's great evils, comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to eradicate."
Richard Dawkins
The violence found in the bible is due to the slaughtering of the wicked seeds rooted by Satan.
Yes God commanded Joshua to kill the Canaanites, yes God killed everyone on Earth except Noah and his family. But you have to read everything to understand why it was done.
Read about Soddom and Gamorrah, the 2 cities destroyed by God.
Read about what God said to Abraham, he plain and simply said to him that he would never kill a righteous person in the process of taking out billions of wicked people.
He basically said that he would spare the billions of wicked men for the sake of saving one righteous man.....

Now as far as the scripture being full of false hopes, that would be true if it weren't for the many fulfilled prophecies that are taking place till this day....

You think the world is full of death and violence now?
Picture a world without religious rule? Now that would be total chaos. It's as bad as it is with it, I can only imagine how bad things would be with out it.
And those who kill for so called religous purposes have corrupted souls infected by the evil virus.
People who twist the scripture around to validate their violent ways....
 
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FoeTwin said:

They claim to be nonviolent when the quaran actually states that it is a holy duty to god for muslims to kill "infedels," or any non muslim. What kind of script is that?!?!

:rolleyes:
another fucking idiot who is speaking about the quran, but never has even read that with his own eyes cuz it doesnt even exist lol


you really think thats true when islam is the fastest growing religion? man get a brain and do some homework before you post some more bullshit to mislead people. USA already has already basically destroyed the image of Islam.
 
Aug 15, 2002
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Hit The Blunt said:
Just a question for the muslims of the board. How do you view the Hadith?

I personally would find it hard to believe a prophet who is credited with the sayings and deeds described in the hadith.
The Hadith is equal to the Quran. The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) was the perfect example of how a Muslim should be in every aspect of life. Therefore, the Hadith are very important. This is my opinion. There are some Muslims that don't believe in Hadith at all and go strictly by the Quran.

As for you finding it hard to believe a prophet being credited with the sayings and deeds described in the Hadith, there are various levels of authenticity of Hadiths. Some are extremely strong, meaning that the person the compiled the Hadith (Bukhari, etc.) traced the Hadith to come from several reliable sources. The task of compiling those sources is very detailed and I can't describe it here cause it is hard to explain. One example of this process was looking at the character of the source. The source had to be very religious and known for honesty, etc. There weak hadiths where the source may not be as reliable.
 
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thapro said:

As for you finding it hard to believe a prophet being credited with the sayings and deeds described in the Hadith, there are various levels of authenticity of Hadiths.
I don't find it hard to believe that he was credited with what is outlined in the Hadith but I would find it hard to believe in a prophet who is credited with such awful words.
 
Aug 15, 2002
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Hit The Blunt said:


I don't find it hard to believe that he was credited with what is outlined in the Hadith but I would find it hard to believe in a prophet who is credited with such awful words.
Can you give some examples of what you are talking about?