"The Beast" movie, Jesus didn't exist

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The Beast
Former Christian director's secretive film scheduled to open on 06-06-06

A movie whose purpose is to prove that Jesus Christ never existed and that demonizes Christian fundamentalists is scheduled to open on June 6, 2006 – that is, 06-06-06, the "666" biblical mark of the Beast.

Directed by Brian Flemming, who is described on the film's website as a "former fundamentalist Christian," "The Beast" promises to spread the theory he claims is "gaining credibility among scholars" – that Jesus was made up out of thin air.

"The authors of the Gospels, writing 40 to 90 years after the supposed life of Christ, never intended for their works to be read as biographies. There are no credible non-Christian references to Christ during the period in which he is said to have lived," states the film's site.

Currently in pre-production, the film's cast and crew are "legally sworn to secrecy," the promotional site says.

Here's how the film's promoters describe its plot:

When her father, a biblical scholar, mysteriously disappears, a Christian high-school student named Danielle investigates. She discovers that he had stumbled across a cover-up of Christianity's best-kept secret: that Jesus Christ never existed.
Now that she possesses proof of this dangerous fact, Danielle must confront two strong forces: a band of fundamentalist Christians who will stop at nothing to suppress the truth, and her own desire for Jesus Christ to be real.

Diving into factual territory well-explored by scholars but largely hidden from the view of the public, "The Beast" is an epic story of innocence lost, faith in crisis and the astonishing power of the truth to survive.

On the trailer, which is viewable on the film's site, ominous music plays while these words flash across the screen: "Centuries ago, a legend was invented… forgery … fraud … coercion … wealth … greed … torture … murder … war … gave it the power to dominate the world." The words are displayed on a background of a painting of Christ's face.

The producers offer a newsletter for those interested in following the making of the movie.

Fleming is touted on the film's website as "internationally acclaimed."

States the site: "Flemming's work has been called 'a parallel universe' by the BBC, 'jaggedly imaginative' by the New York Times, and 'immensely satisfying' by USA Today. The Fox News Channel dubbed him 'a young Oliver Stone.' Flemming won the New York Times Claiborne Pell Award for Original Vision for his groundbreaking feature film 'Nothing So Strange,' which was released theatrically in 2003 and is currently distributed on DVD in more than 200 countries."

Supporters of the film have participated in a discussion forum on the site.

Says one excited poster: "I must say, I highly commend this director for his immense courage on putting something like this out!! The fact that he has the courage to put out a movie about the possibility of Christ never existing after all the controversy surrounding a movie about the LIFE of Christ (well death really) is just amazing!!

"Mad Kudos (and thanks) to EVERYONE involved in the making of this movie and good luck in handling all the 'adverse' reactions!!"

Another participant enthused, "I'm so excited! I can't wait until it's released! This is DEFINITELY the age of Aquarius!!"

Greg Koukl is head of Stand to Reason, a Christian apologetics organization. He says this kind of story line is not unusual among books and movies.

"It always turns out that fundamentalist Christians are the bad guys," he told WorldNetDaily.

"The problem with this is the evidence they draw from is always out on the fringes of academic scholarship" – evidence, he says, that is not even used by the leaders of the leftist Jesus Seminar.

Koukl noted historians that have no affinity for fundamentalist Christianity certainly write about Jesus and his impact on history.

"Nobody is trying to explain the indelible mark of Jesus of Nazareth on history by saying he never existed," he said. "That's way beyond the pale. No credible historian would make that claim. … It's a bizarre statement from an academic perspective."

Koukl wonders what motive anyone would have to invent Jesus and then "fool everybody."

He dismisses "The Beast" promoters' argument that because no non-Christian accounts of Jesus exist from the time of his life, he must be a fictional character.

"It may be the case that only Caesar wrote about the Gallic wars," he explained, "but just because there are no other writing about the Gaelic wars doesn't mean we can't trust Caesar," mentioning the four Gospels are themselves four separate accounts of Christ's life.

He mentioned there are a "number of historical references to Christ outside Christianity, which buttress the fact he did exist."

Ted Baehr, founder and publisher of MovieGuide and chairman of the Christian Film & Television Commission, predicts "The Beast" will bomb with American moviegoers.

"Generally, these movies do very poorly at the box office," he told WND. "'Saved!' which had a lot of publicity, did about $6 million at the box office. … That's pitiful."

Baehr said bringing the film's contentions into the light of day in the media works well to expose the agenda of its promoters.

"The way you pull the teeth of a false argument is bring up the argument first and show that it's frivolous and fallacious," he said. "Of course it's frivolous. The original apostles wouldn't have gone to their death for Jesus if they didn't believe he was real."

Baehr said, "There is a small group of teenagers who will see 'The Beast' who will be convinced it is the truth. … It will have an impact on a susceptible few."

One of the film's producers, Amanda Jackson, was contacted for this story but did not respond by press time.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=40867
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Who wants to join me in tearing this cat's theory to shreads?

First the Da Vinci Code now this....
Man these cats never stop, funny thing is that they play on people's ignorance of the gospels.
They use that to their advantage and people end up believing their "myths" :rolleyes:
 
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2-0-Sixx said:
lol, I doubt the film will be released, but seriously, keep trying to "Tear" his theory to shreds....it's a lot harder than you may think Mig.
No it's probably pretty simple.
I mean, it appears the cat was inspired by Dan Brown's book.
Which the theory was heavily flawed....

I love the way the website says that the actors have sworn to secrecy lol
And then they aim to bring this film out on 6/6/06?
Haha.... That pretty much sums up what the director and producers are trying to do.
I guess you can't blame them, Mel's movie the Passion did very well mostly due to it's controversial nature....
 
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I don't know anything about Dan Brown's book, so I'll kindly withdraw from discussing this further.

I do however remember this film being posted on an atheist message board and someone said it is fake- it’s never going to be released. I’ll try to find some more info…
 

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If God or Jesus didnt why would the bible be as strong as it is. 2-0 Sixx like my Philosophy professor told me Communism is evil. Once a false theory denies god then it becomes evil and full of lies. I dont understand why God puts up with us. The things we do and the chances he has given us is truly something to behold. I know God exists because of all the things i have been through i have no doubt he doenst. 2-0 your scared of what is going to happen to you after death i can see it in your words and speech.
 
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2-0,

yeah if you can get some info that would be coo.

I have to correct what I said regarding Dan Brown and this movie.
The Da Vinci Code doesn't really deny the existance of Jesus, it focusses on the theory that the bible was manipulated by the early church.

This movie on the other hand tries to convince folks that Jesus never existed.
A theory that is pretty much dead in it's tracks. I can see why the cat might wanna pull the plug on the whole project though. Guess someone pointed him out to the graves of some of Jesus's apostles lol....


@Been Drinkin,
did you know that Jesus was the first communist?
 
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I don't understand why christians waste their time trying to prove jesus or god exists when they have little or no evidence for the existence in the first place.

It's a very important topic, Basically. It's not like were talking about elves or some bigfoot. Were talking about something that affects 70% of americans...well, actually fuck that, 100% of americans. It's all around us in society. Jesus that, jesus this, "hey-Zues that.

Listen, I don't "waste" my time trying to prove jesus doesn't exist; it's a topic I rarely speak on and see little significance. But, I don't think this movie or these kinds of essays or whatever are honestly trying to disprove jesus, they are simply expressing arguments and evidence that points in the direction of a non-existent jesus, or a fabricated jesus or whatever.
 
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ALL arguements about GOD is wrong especially to those who believe in him.

3. Thou shalt not take the name of the lord thy GOD in vain: for the Lord will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

vain
adj. vain•er, vain•est
1. Not yielding the desired outcome; fruitless: a vain attempt.
2. Lacking substance or worth: vain talk.
3. Excessively proud of one's appearance or accomplishments; conceited.
4. Archaic. Foolish.

Idiom:
in vain
1. To no avail; without success: Our labor was in vain.
2. In an irreverent or disrespectful manner: took the Lord's name in vain.
 
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miggidy said:
Who wants to join me in tearing this cat's theory to shreads?

First the Da Vinci Code now this....
Man these cats never stop, funny thing is that they play on people's ignorance of the gospels.
They use that to their advantage and people end up believing their "myths" :rolleyes:
Jesus didn't exist. You can't even prove he did on this website. How are you going to prove it to a person who has obviously researched the topic?

Jesus Christ can eat a fat dick...you can quote me on that..
 
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RuThLeSs RiCk said:
Jesus didn't exist. You can't even prove he did on this website. How are you going to prove it to a person who has obviously researched the topic?

Jesus Christ can eat a fat dick...you can quote me on that..
answer my questions then RiCk. Bring something to the table.