the ACLU and NAMBLA

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miggidy

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As I said in another thread, the ACLU might stand for certain ideals I agree with but....
The fuckers are tryin to legalize pedaphilia....
Sick fucks! I cannot believe that they're tryin to pull of such act in this day and age. It goes to show how low society has sunk....
 
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miggidy said:
As I said in another thread, the ACLU might stand for certain ideals I agree with but....
The fuckers are tryin to legalize pedaphilia....
Sick fucks! I cannot believe that they're tryin to pull of such act in this day and age. It goes to show how low society has sunk....
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The ACLU claims this is a case of freedom of speech and association. "For us, it is a fundamental First Amendment case," said John Roberts, executive director of the Massachusetts branch of the ACLU. "It has to do with communications on a website, and material that does not promote any kind of criminal behavior whatsoever."

Fuck NAMBLA. I dont think ACLU should defend them at all, but if they are ONLY defending their right of freedom of speech, then I suppose I can understand that.
 
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all i got to say is that children cant defend themselves and need help.

i dont know how the ACLU can live with themselves knowing they are defending people who are teaching perverts how to rape little kids.

freedom of speech or not they dont have to take the case. why didnt they help the lady phil mentioned earlier that got fired for her 1st amendment freedom of religeon right to where a gold cross on her gold neckless around her neck at work in a Pennselvania school distric. she was a teachers aide. why didnt they come to her defense??
 
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http://www.aclu-mass.org/legal/namblaaclu.html


What the ACLU does advocate is robust freedom of speech for everyone. The lawsuit involved here, were it to succeed, would strike at the heart of freedom of speech. The case is based on a shocking murder. But the lawsuit says the crime is the responsibility not of those who committed the murder, but of someone who posted vile material on the Internet. The principle is as simple as it is central to true freedom of speech: those who do wrong are responsible for what they do; those who speak about it are not.

It is easy to defend freedom of speech when the message is something many people find at least reasonable. But the defense of freedom of speech is most critical when the message is one most people find repulsive. That was true when the Nazis marched in Skokie. It remains true today.




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2-0-Sixx said:

Fuck NAMBLA. I dont think ACLU should defend them at all, but if they are ONLY defending their right of freedom of speech, then I suppose I can understand that.
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Pretty much how I feel. If we can have the KKK, the Black Panters, Leftists, Rightists, etc. expressing their views these fags might as well, as long as they don't actually practice "Loving boys."
 
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Pretty much how I feel. If we can have the KKK, the Black Panters, Leftists, Rightists, etc. expressing their views these fags might as well, as long as they don't actually practice "Loving boys."
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we dont know if they are actually practicing "Loving boys." but they are teaching others how to to it. and for the sake of the kids that are victims of these scum we need to put a stop to NAMBLA.
 
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Well if there aren't any victims it's because they haven't practiced that practice. But once they do (if they do, not sure if there are any reported cases) start that shit, they should be hunted down like rats.
 
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Mcleanhatch

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there was a case where a little boy got raped and killed and the person that did it said he leaned how to do what he did from the website.

check out the website, that might change your mind.
 
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Mcleanhatch said:
there was a case where a little boy got raped and killed and the person that did it said he leaned how to do what he did from the website.

check out the website, that might change your mind.
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he learned how to rape and kill from that website?
 
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nefar maybe the left side of your brain wont allow you to admit it but if youd like to go and do a search about nambla providing "hints and tips" to lure kids into having sex with adults you might be surprised

so why is the aclu so adamant about nambla's freedom of speech and a teacher cant wear a cross on here neck to school? (by the way this woman HAS been given her job back, the aclu lost the case)
 
miggidy

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2-0-Sixx said:
The ACLU claims this is a case of freedom of speech and association. "For us, it is a fundamental First Amendment case," said John Roberts, executive director of the Massachusetts branch of the ACLU. "It has to do with communications on a website, and material that does not promote any kind of criminal behavior whatsoever."
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So you are ok with the ACLU's stance for a teen's right to have sex with adults?

I can see how an old pervert can benefit from this, but I guess I choose to put myself in the shoes of the teen's parents instead.
I'd probably castrate any man tryin to sleep with my adolescent daughter....
 
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phil said:
nefar maybe the left side of your brain wont allow you to admit it but if youd like to go and do a search about nambla providing "hints and tips" to lure kids into having sex with adults you might be surprised

so why is the aclu so adamant about nambla's freedom of speech and a teacher cant wear a cross on here neck to school? (by the way this woman HAS been given her job back, the aclu lost the case)
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http://www.aclu-mass.org/legal/namblaaclu.html

The principle is as simple as it is central to true freedom of speech: those who do wrong are responsible for what they do; those who speak about it are not.
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look, i'm just "stating" what the ACLU is defending. cuase either you or mcleanhatch every brought that point.
 
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Freedom of speech is a difficult subject because if you don't allow one retarded opinion, then the way to forbid another opinion is not far away.
I hate that fucked up pile of shit organization that is NAMBLA more than creationists hate the truth and I don't think anyone should specifically defend their rights to say that 8 year olds enjoy getting raped, and nothing would make me happier then to see all of their members locked up behind bars so they couldn't get near children at all.
Unfortunately though you can't imprison people because of their opinions no matter how much you dislike them, if we start doing that then the USA will become a "communist" country.
And we don't want that, do we?
 
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Droopy Eye said:
Freedom of speech is a difficult subject because if you don't allow one retarded opinion, then the way to forbid another opinion is not far away.
I hate that fucked up pile of shit organization that is NAMBLA more than creationists hate the truth and I don't think anyone should specifically defend their rights to say that 8 year olds enjoy getting raped, and nothing would make me happier then to see all of their members locked up behind bars so they couldn't get near children at all.
Unfortunately though you can't imprison people because of their opinions no matter how much you dislike them, if we start doing that then the USA will become a "communist" country.
And we don't want that, do we?
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I agree with everything you said, EXCEPT the last part, a true communist country will not lock you up for your beliefs.
 
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