Tens of Thousands Will Lose College Aid

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Tens of Thousands Will Lose College Aid, Report Says
By GREG WINTER


The first report to document the impact of the government's new formula for financial aid has found that it will reduce the nation's largest grant program by $270 million and bar 84,000 college students from receiving any award at all.

The report, by the Congressional Research Service, the research arm of Congress, does not calculate the full effect of the changes, since it does not consider the further cuts in student awards that will probably occur once the new formula is applied to billions of dollars in state awards and university grants.

But it does settle some uncertainty over the initial consequences of altering the intricate federal formula that governs the vast majority of the nation's financial aid.

Word of the changes has kindled a small storm in Washington in the last month. Members of Congress have put forward legislation in hopes of either gauging the toll of the new formula or stopping it; they have characterized the change as a way to cut education spending without facing the public.

"The department is wrong to turn its back on students and families," said Senator Edward M. Kennedy, Democrat of Massachusetts. "They need more financial aid for college, not less."

The Department of Education has cited its obligation under federal law to revise the formula and played down the impact. Sally L. Stroup, its assistant secretary for postsecondary education, told The Washington Post last month that "the changes will have a minimal impact on a handful of students."

The figures cited in the report made clear, however, that the new formula would trim the government's primary award program, the Pell grant, by $270 million once it takes effect in the 2004-5 academic year. That amount, financial aid experts said, probably means that hundreds of thousands of students will end up getting smaller Pell grants, not counting the 84,000 who it is estimated will no longer qualify.

"It's pretty hard to call several hundred thousand students a handful," said Brian K. Fitzgerald, director of the Advisory Committee on Student Financial Assistance, which was created by Congress to advise it on higher education. He estimated that more than one million students could receive smaller Pell grants because of the new formula.

"It doesn't stop there," Mr. Fitzgerald added. "It will have a ripple effect through all the other financial aid programs — state grants, loans and institutional dollars. The cumulative effect could be much larger."

The department does not argue with the report's numbers — in fact, it provided them — but notes that government spending on education will continue to rise. Because of the swell in college-age students, and the rising popularity of higher education among low-income families, about 300,000 more people will receive Pell grants by 2004 than do now.

"You're still going to have more money out there," said Jeff Andrade, deputy assistant secretary for higher education, adding that Pell grant costs could rise by more than $1 billion by 2004, even though many students will get smaller awards and others will not qualify at all.

Whether it comes from states, universities or the federal government itself, the bulk of financial aid is dictated by a single formula that determines how much of a family's income is discretionary, and thus available for college expenses.

Just as with income tax, families can deduct some of what they spend on state and local taxes. The deductions vary by state but this year, with few exceptions, the department reduced the amounts, sometimes cutting them in half or more. Because of that, families will often appear to have larger incomes, at least on paper, and will thus be expected to contribute more toward their students' college educations.

"Our students could lose close to $6 million," said George Chin, director of financial aid for the City University of New York, where 36 percent of students receive Pell grants. "It's a lot of money, and it comes at a bad time, when the students can least afford it."

Though few doubt the department's authority to change the state tax tables, critics in Congress question why it chose to do so now, after nearly a decade of leaving them untouched and at a time when state taxes are going up, not down.

Beyond that, tuitions are rising and the economy is strained. Senator Jon Corzine, Democrat of New Jersey, called it an inconceivable time to enact the changes.

The department says it followed the same procedures as previous administrations, drawing its data from the Internal Revenue Service.

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/18/n...4a56&ex=1059499864&pagewanted=print&position=
 
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damn. auburn just raised the tuition by 16 %,, this summer semester i enrolled in 3 classes, i have a 25 parking fee and 8 dollars and change in printing fees and my total is $2,739....

this is bamma, not many good job opportunities where i live
i'd have to whore around on the internet just to make $$$ to pay off my tuition.
 
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^ if that is true about the pell grant getting cutt short, i will have to quit college for sure and work to save my money up so i can graduate...


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it;s ashame....i think its some sinister plot to keep the rich richer (and more educated) and the poor more broke and skrugglynn (wit noo skillz)...

its some bullish, that's all i knoe.
 
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^^^^^^ davis didnt have to shell out cash to NYC to help them after 9-11, or fix the pentagon, or go after Osama/taliban in Afganistan, Davis in California doesnt have to protect America from Sadma Hussein. Davis didnt help bail out the airlines. davis doesnt have to spend money on education in 50 states.

and to actually agree with you in part for once, ya i do think Bush is spending to much, he should stop with the "compassionate conservative" stuff and just be a conservative and quit spending an average $7,000 per US citizen.
 
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Mclean, my friend right now just lost his mother who helped him out greatly financially. He has no father and he's been left with a lot of bills to pay and plus he's in college. The man has 2 jobs and is going to school and he's still struggling to pay for a lot of things, any increase in fees or cutbacks on financial aid hurts him greatly matter of fact it'll probably determine how long he's going to be in school.

Financial Aid is a HUGE help to him, to make the sarcastic comment that "Darn people will have to earn their money" is ignorant because you don't understand everyones situation. Financial Aid helps a lot of students that want to go to school but are having financial problems to pay for school or other things.
 
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I was getting a half tuition scholarship from my college, USC. They dropped it from my financial aid because of some bullshit this year, and didn't even give me a heads up. Now I'm gonna have to either work over 35 hrs a week or borrow more money from a private bank. Plus they always increase fees every year. What sucks the most is I have a job waiting for me once I graduate, but I need to get that degree. I've learned as much as I'm gonna need from bullshit school, everything else I will need to learn would be from work experience.
 
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Financial Aid is a HUGE help to him, to make the sarcastic comment that "Darn people will have to earn their money" is ignorant because you don't understand everyones situation. Financial Aid helps a lot of students that want to go to school but are having financial problems to pay for school or other things.
i didnt say that it wasnt big for alote of people. i simply stated (and yes it was sarcastically) that people would have to go out and earn their own way through college now. now about your friend if he has two jobs and some aid is taken away then i still think that he should have enough money to pay for school. he is just going to have to make the essentials a higher priority now.

or he can always go lose the second job so that they dont take away the financial AID.

but then again that will defeat the purpose of getting an education. which is to better yourself by your own means.

again i feel bad for people and i do know that some people really do depend on this form of Welfare alote, and i do understand that it is for the betterment of society in general to have more people (especially those who are qualified but otherwise wouldnt be able to go because of financial problems) graduating with college degrees.

but then again i also know that right now we are in a budget crisis, which means that there is less mney to be spent. people are going to have to absorb it until we get the economy around. then things can get back to normal.

i mean dont tell me that if you got fired from your good paying job and the only other job you could find only payed about 1/2 of what you were making before that you would still be spending on goods and services the same amount as before.

again let me say that while i know there are people like your friend that ARE working 2 jobs and getting AID while struggling to graduate from college, there are also thousands of kids that are just going to college to get the FA check just so they can go to the mall and get some Jordans, 20in rims and a system. i know this as a fact because many of the people i graduated high school with (which were not college material) surprised the hell out of me my first day at JC. i saw a ton of these people i went to HS with there. and i said to my self what the hell are they doing here, they are not college material. but hey it only took about a month before they were all flashing their checks around to see who got more. many of these people didnt even stick around more than 2 months. many others only stuck around for the second semester only because they "needed" another check.
 
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I was getting a half tuition scholarship from my college, USC. They dropped it from my financial aid because of some bullshit this year, and didn't even give me a heads up. Now I'm gonna have to either work over 35 hrs a week or borrow more money from a private bank. Plus they always increase fees every year. What sucks the most is I have a job waiting for me once I graduate, but I need to get that degree. I've learned as much as I'm gonna need from bullshit school, everything else I will need to learn would be from work experience.
well the only thing that i can think of is if you are a junior or a senior borrow the money and pay it back after you graduate, now if you are a freshman or a sophmore i would say transfer to a CSU or UC school until you are a senior then transfer back to your private school