Tasers.

[Mac Jesus]

Do you think cops should be using tasers? Recently in B.C. there was another incident where the police were called in - a man was beating his wife. The cops tased him and he was killed. First they tried pepper spray but it didn't do anything so they tased him. He ended up dying. Do you think this situation would of been any different if the cops weren't allowed to carry tasers?

There's been over 80 taser related deaths since 2001. But cops say that they are safe and non-lethal.

If they are safe and non-lethal why are there so many deaths that were related to taser shots?

 

[E'fect]

I dont know about that... I would have to say it is safer to taser you than to just shot you if you cant be stoped with pepper spray... but I do know you can get a taser on E-bay for between $10-$50 thats cheap as hell...

 

[2-0-Sixx]

How many people have died as a result of being tasered in the last 5-8 years? Any one know? 5? 10? 15? 20? 50? 80?

 

[CannibalCrow]

I knew someone who had a taser of his own, carried it around for self defense. Scared me to death because it made terrible loud crackling noises. He was trying to show off how it worked. I didn't like it, and I don't think people who are supposed to protect you should be hauling one around. I'd rather see them have nets than tasers for out of control people.

 

[Mcleanhatch]

How many people have died as a result of being tasered in the last 5-8 years? Any one know? 5? 10? 15? 20? 50? 80?

all you have to do is read

There's been over 80 taser related deaths since 2001.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

My mistake

 

[Mcleanhatch]

no problem

 

[Jae iLL]

Tasers aren't "non-lethal", they're "less-than-lethal", which means there's still a chance of death. I think a big problem is the belief that tasers ARE non-lethal which makes the pigs feel safe to use it more often. They don't think it's going to kill anyone, so when a situation arises they resort to the taze.

You stated that there's been over 80 taser related deaths since 2001, how many shooting related deaths since 2001 do you think involved the pigs?? I'm more concerned with that than tasers.

 

[nefar559]

whats the alternative? guns?

 

[Mac Jesus]

I say take away guns and tasers - cops don't need to be running around with lethal weapons.

 

[Stealth]

I'm not saying I love cops or anything, but if people on the streets have guns and the cops don't, how are they gonna enforce the law?

Granted, the cops enforce TOO MUCH law. And in other countries, cops don't have guns (in other countries, citizens dont have guns either). But...we need to draw the line between cops protecting themselves, and cops having a penchant for "justified murder".

 

[2-0-Sixx]

whats the alternative? guns?

Common Sense, Rationality, the ability to communicate, Half a Brain etc. etc. etc. MOST all of these incidences we hear about the police COULD HAVE used alternative methods, other than physical violence to handle the situation. Pregnant lady in a vehicle? No need for physical violence. Women on a cell phone? No need for physical violence.

If the police were trained to treat humans as people and not terrorists then maybe, just maybe we wouldn’t have this absurd level of police brutality.

 

[Locahontas]

Did you ever see that one episode of Cops in New Orleans where that guy was in the bar & the cops came & peppered sprayed him like 8 million times but it didn't work? He just rubbed his face & kept on keepin on. Then he poured a glass of beer over his head to get some it out of his eyes? I can't remember if they ended up using a taser on him or not. But I know I just kept thinkin "these guys need to stun his crazy ass!" HA! lol

I used to have 2 tasers. And that cracklin noise is super scary! Even if you weren't holding the button, you could still get shocked. I would have to discharge that extra volt on my keychain.

=)

 

[XianeX]

long time no see loca, I miss playing chess with you. you need to hit me up for a game.

BTW she's a bad muthafuka in that game folx. The only girl to ever beat me and I felt good about it

excuse my tangent

 

[Likwid]

My city just recently adopted the taser as it's local law enforcements weapon of choice. People were pissed because of the cost ( county is almost broke ) and because of the whack assed trigger happy law enforcement we have. You can go to scratch your ass and get tazed, the cops are anxious to use them for any reason.

 

[up2nogood]

i want one

 

[WHITE DEVIL]

I have a good friends whose pops is a pig in Oakland, and regardless of the conspiracy theory shit about all cops tryin to kill people, they live in a warzone environment.

There are people out there who are completely insane, illogical, irrational, etc. and who will not respond to anything other than complete, incapacitating force.

Yes, people die from tazers but there really are no options in some cases. Cops are naturally adrenalized in stressful situations, which leads to misuse. Unfortunately, the nature of law enforcement is such that there is no completely clean, exacting, succinct or painless method for apprehension/incapacitation of subjects.

If a large amount of people are dying as a result of tazers and correlated police brutality, then I would support their removal from officer's hands and subsequent outlawing. However, I doubt the proportion is that much larger than say, police gun mistakes, nightstick mistakes, car mistakes, or general use of force mistakes.

Do police unlawfully and mistakenly kill people? Yes. Will there ever be a system that is completely correct, completely moral, and mistake-free? No...unfortunately never. Kind of like the whole "Democracy is the worst form of government....except for all the other ones"

 

[Mr. Nice Guy]

Common Sense, Rationality, the ability to communicate, Half a Brain etc. etc. etc. MOST all of these incidences we hear about the police COULD HAVE used alternative methods, other than physical violence to handle the situation. Pregnant lady in a vehicle? No need for physical violence. Women on a cell phone? No need for physical violence.

@ 20sixx

I normally agree with your POV, but I just don't understand what you think the alternative is in this situation. The woman who wouldn't get out of the car for example...what is a reasonable amount of time to wait before they physically remove her? Or should they just wait until she gets hungry enough to leave on her own? I don't think the 50 are just arriving at a situation and tasing people without initially trying to resolve the situation peacefully. They still have to deal with the cameras on their cars filming the situation and the reports filed by both parties later.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

@ 20sixx

I normally agree with your POV, but I just don't understand what you think the alternative is in this situation. The woman who wouldn't get out of the car for example...what is a reasonable amount of time to wait before they physically remove her?

How long did the officer wait until he pulled out the taser? A couple minutes? Do YOU think the officer could have waited and dealt with the situation in a less violent matter? Don’t you think the officer(s) could have tried reasoning with the women rationally instead of yelling and threatening her and ultimately using 50,000 volts?

It is my opinion that they could have EASILY spent another 5-10 minutes and talked to her rationally and convinced her to relax and cooperate. There is no need to for that kind of hostility over something so minor and irrelevant. The police have, all throughout history, been aggressive, oppressive and merciless to the Amerikan people (and people of the world for that matter). They are an oppressive organization and this is just another example.

I don't think the 50 are just arriving at a situation and tasing people without initially trying to resolve the situation peacefully.

Really? So tasering pregnant women after 1-2 minutes of yelling at them is trying to resolve the situation peacefully? Grabbing a woman by the throat and throwing her to the ground because she was eating a snickers bar in a "no food zone" is solving the situation peacefully? Or how about the Police Tasering a Pregnant Bride (yes, they tasered her at her own wedding!) and the baby later died, all because the music was to loud. All this in the name of peace.

They still have to deal with the cameras on their cars filming the situation and the reports filed by both parties later.

As if that stops police brutality. Do you know how many thousands upon thousands of police complaints are filed each year? Do you know how many are actually looked into?

 

[nefar559]

How long did the officer wait until he pulled out the taser? A couple minutes? Do YOU think the officer could have waited and dealt with the situation in a less violent matter? Don’t you think the officer(s) could have tried reasoning with the women rationally instead of yelling and threatening her and ultimately using 50,000 volts?

It is my opinion that they could have EASILY spent another 5-10 minutes and talked to her rationally and convinced her to relax and cooperate. There is no need to for that kind of hostility over something so minor and irrelevant. The police have, all throughout history, been aggressive, oppressive and merciless to the Amerikan people (and people of the world for that matter). They are an oppressive organization and this is just another example.



Really? So tasering pregnant women after 1-2 minutes of yelling at them is trying to resolve the situation peacefully? Grabbing a woman by the throat and throwing her to the ground because she was eating a snickers bar in a "no food zone" is solving the situation peacefully? Or how about the Police Tasering a Pregnant Bride (yes, they tasered her at her own wedding!) and the baby later died, all because the music was to loud. All this in the name of peace.

As if that stops police brutality. Do you know how many thousands upon thousands of police complaints are filed each year? Do you know how many are actually looked into?

what is the ratio between good complaints and bad complaints?

i dont know, where to stay on this issue as of now, but you're not really convincing me. It sort of reminds me of censorship and the FCC. if they even get a few complaints from citizens, an issue is blow up out of proportion.