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Dec 13, 2004
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:mad: Posted by NORTH STAR NEWS on January 26, 2005 at 21:11:43:
James Ortega and Malik Alayube, the teenagers accused in last year's Jack in the Box slayings, will be tried for murder, a Superior Court judge ruled Tuesday.

After Santa Clara County Judge Ron M. Del Pozzo reached his decision, he turned toward the courtroom gallery, past the two teenage boys shackled before him.

``I can see the pain in your faces on both sides,'' Pozzo said to the mothers and fathers in his courtroom. ``There are no winners or losers in this case.''

For two days, members of four families have crowded into a Hall of Justice courtroom in San Jose for a preliminary hearing to determine whether there is enough evidence for a trial. They heard how two of their sons lost their lives and two other sons were charged with murder.

Ortega, now 15, will be the youngest murder defendant to be tried in adult court in Santa Clara County history. He was 14 when authorities allege he gunned down Diego Gutierrez and Miguel Romero, both 17, on Jan. 3, 2004, at a Jack in the Box in East San Jose. The confrontation began after rival gang signs were exchanged between Norteños and Sureños, San Jose's dominant Latino street gangs.

Alayube, now 19, also is charged in the slayings.

Throughout the preliminary hearing, Ortega, clad in a green sweatshirt and dark slacks, sat stoically near his public defender, Melinda Hall. He glanced briefly at the victims' family members when they filed into the courtroom Tuesday. Alayube, dressed in a red jail jumpsuit, smiled at his father before taking a seat next to his public defender, Chris Mattison.

San Jose police Sgt. Byron Jones testified that Ortega -- an alleged Norteño member -- became angry after a chair struck him in the nose during a melee inside the Jack in the Box. He said Ortega reached for a .22-caliber pistol Alayube had given to him that morning and opened fire.

Diego was shot once in the back and Miguel three times in the back. Their friend, Conrad Salas, also was shot in the arm and back but survived, prosecutor Stuart Scott said while holding photos of the shooting victims.

San Jose police gang investigator Gregory Lombardo testified officers knew Ortega and Alayube associated with members of the Varrio Horseshoe Norteño gang and assaulted Sureño gang members.

Lombardo said an officer once found a handwritten rap or poem with Alayube that detailed how Norteños would shoot and kill Sureños and their babies.

``There is a war going on between these Norteños and Sureños,'' Lombardo said. ``When the gang signs are thrown, that's when the problems start. . . . Not only do they respond, they respond with violence.''

After the hearing, Ortega's mother left the courtroom weeping. A few minutes later, Miguel's mother asked the prosecutor if she could see the homicide photos of her son.

Ortega and Alayube are scheduled to be arraigned on murder and attempted murder charges with gang enhancements on Feb. 7. Ortega faces an additional enhancement for using a gun.

If convicted, both could face life sentences in prison
 
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"Lombardo said an officer once found a handwritten rap or poem with Alayube that detailed how Norteños would shoot and kill Sureños and their babies."

that describes a line or two of just about any norteno song ive heard so far
 
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YEAH SNITCHES AND SHIT....I HAPPEN 2 KNOW THE YOUNG HOMIE JAMES AKA LIL OSO....NEVER THOUGH IT WAS THE SAME HOMIE WHEN I HERAD TEILL I READ THE ARTICLE HOMIE WAS ALREADY LOCKED UP AND COMMITED THIS SHIT OUT ON HIS HOME PASS....SHIT GETS CRITICAL....
 
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YEAH I GUESS THEM FOOS THAT GOT SHOT WHERE FROM SPV....THEM FOOS AINT BOUT SHIT THEY ALWAYS BE ROLLING UP MY HOOD AND TRY 2 CATCH THE YOUNG HOMIES SLIPPING WHEN THE YOUNG HOMIES ARE SOLO BUT NEVER DO SHIT WHEN THEY SEE THE SAME AGE HOMIES EVEN IF ITS ONLY A COUPLE OF US AND THEY ARE LIKE 7 DEEP.... THEY BE SOME BITCHES AND SHIT....BUT FUCK LIKE I SAID SHIT GETS CRITICAL....
 
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its in there nature part of there program....pinche ratas how do you think they get away with the shit they do...to a cop there the next best thing to dohnuts..
 
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tino loc said:
its in there nature part of there program....pinche ratas how do you think they get away with the shit they do...to a cop there the next best thing to dohnuts..
I SECOND DAT BUT YEAH I KNOW WHAT BOTH SIDEZ OFF DA FAMILY IZ GOING THREW N DA HOMIEZ GOING THREW IT N YEAH THERE HOMIEZ DAT SNITCH DAT CANT HANDLE DA TIME CHIT I GOT SNITCHED ON BY SUM1 I THOUGHT WAZ SOLID N DA COLD PART WAZ I BROUGHT DA NIGGA INTO DA GAME N WE GREW UP 2GETHER BUT WHEN UR FACEING LIFE DATZ WHEN THERE TRUE COLORZ COME OUT UR JUZT BORN WITH IT I GUEZZ CUZ SNITCH'Z WILL BE SNITCH'Z BUT 4 A SCRAP DATZ JUZT IN THERE NATURE DATZ WHO THEY ARE U CANT EXPECT 2 BEAT UP A SCRAP LET ALONE SHOOT 1 N THINK THEY AINT GOING 2 SNITCH CHIT IT'Z TIME 2 PACK UP N BOUNCE
 
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yeah there's snitches EVERYWHERE like has been stated, but the difference is, scraps will KEEP their snitches. they think bigger numbers make a difference. they know nothing about quality.
 

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thumper said:
yeah there's snitches EVERYWHERE like has been stated, but the difference is, scraps will KEEP their snitches. they think bigger numbers make a difference. they know nothing about quality.
HUH???HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!YOURE FUNNY...I DONT KNOW HOW SOUTH SIDERS DO IT UP THERE, BUT DOWN HERE IN L.A. ITS CUTTHROAT, BIG DOG...YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT..YALL HEARD THE HORROR STORIES...SNITCHES ARE A NO NO DOWN HERE...ANYWAYS...MAN IVE SPENT ENOUGH TIME IN THE BAY THAT I HAVE SEEN NORTENOS SNITCH ON SOUTH SIDERS AND ON NORTENOS TOO...MAN, SOME NORTENOS TRIED TO SNITCH ON ME...LIKE 5 NORTENOS SNITCHED ON MY HOMIE THAT WAS IN PELICAN BAY AND THE COPS PUT THAT FOO IN THE S.H.U...MAN, LOOK AT SIR DYNO, OR WHATEVER HIS NAME IS...NOW THATS A RATA, QUE NO???
 
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SLICC RICC said:
HUH???HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!YOURE FUNNY...I DONT KNOW HOW SOUTH SIDERS DO IT UP THERE, BUT DOWN HERE IN L.A. ITS CUTTHROAT, BIG DOG...YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT..YALL HEARD THE HORROR STORIES...SNITCHES ARE A NO NO DOWN HERE...ANYWAYS...MAN IVE SPENT ENOUGH TIME IN THE BAY THAT I HAVE SEEN NORTENOS SNITCH ON SOUTH SIDERS AND ON NORTENOS TOO...MAN, SOME NORTENOS TRIED TO SNITCH ON ME...LIKE 5 NORTENOS SNITCHED ON MY HOMIE THAT WAS IN PELICAN BAY AND THE COPS PUT THAT FOO IN THE S.H.U...MAN, LOOK AT SIR DYNO, OR WHATEVER HIS NAME IS...NOW THATS A RATA, QUE NO???
CHIT I WENT 2 MAGIC MOUNTAIN N GOT SNITCHED ON BY HELLA SCRAPZ THEY SAID I WAZ TALKING CHIT TO THEM SO HOW DA FUCK U GOING 2 SAY IT'Z CUTTHROAT WHEN IM WITH MY FAM N THEY TELLING ON ME ALL CUZ ONE HIT ME UP N I SPIT ON HIZ AZZ DAT CHIT IZ FUNNY BUT YA CUTTHROATZ HUH LOL
 
Dec 13, 2004
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Posts: 16 NORTENOS GOT SNITCHES TOO...A GANG OF EM...
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Hey Your some what right.I'm not going to lie.ever set has a snitch in it,pero the S Califaz has more gente that are not from the states so they will snitch so they won't deport them back to their country.
 

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Pistol-Cee said:
CHIT I WENT 2 MAGIC MOUNTAIN N GOT SNITCHED ON BY HELLA SCRAPZ THEY SAID I WAZ TALKING CHIT TO THEM SO HOW DA FUCK U GOING 2 SAY IT'Z CUTTHROAT WHEN IM WITH MY FAM N THEY TELLING ON ME ALL CUZ ONE HIT ME UP N I SPIT ON HIZ AZZ DAT CHIT IZ FUNNY BUT YA CUTTHROATZ HUH LOL
MAGIC MOUNTAIN???BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!COME TO THA 'LOS, ESE...DONT GO TO MAGIC MOUNTAIN...COME TO WASHINGTON AND VINEYARD, OR TO 53RD AND HOOVER IN THA CITY OF THE SKANLESS BIG BAD LOS ANGELES...WONT NOBODY BE TELLIN...MAGIC MOUNTAIN ISNT CUTTHROAT...THE STREETS ARE...COMIN TO L.A. IS A HEALTH HAZARD, PLAYA...MAGIC MOUNTAIN...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
 

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CRAZY SILENT said:
Yesterday, 10:41 PM #12
SLICC RICC
Peasant
Posts: 16 NORTENOS GOT SNITCHES TOO...A GANG OF EM...
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Hey Your some what right.I'm not going to lie.ever set has a snitch in it,pero the S Califaz has more gente that are not from the states so they will snitch so they won't deport them back to their country.
YOURE RIGHT DOG...THE MORE PEOPLE THERE ARE, THE MORE SNITCHES THERE ARE...MAN, IVE SEEN PLENTY OF PAISA NORTENOS, HOMIE...PROBABLY NOT FROM THE BAY, BUT I SEEN EM...
 
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SLICC RICC said:
HUH???HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!YOURE FUNNY...I DONT KNOW HOW SOUTH SIDERS DO IT UP THERE, BUT DOWN HERE IN L.A. ITS CUTTHROAT, BIG DOG...YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT..YALL HEARD THE HORROR STORIES...SNITCHES ARE A NO NO DOWN HERE...ANYWAYS...MAN IVE SPENT ENOUGH TIME IN THE BAY THAT I HAVE SEEN NORTENOS SNITCH ON SOUTH SIDERS AND ON NORTENOS TOO...MAN, SOME NORTENOS TRIED TO SNITCH ON ME...LIKE 5 NORTENOS SNITCHED ON MY HOMIE THAT WAS IN PELICAN BAY AND THE COPS PUT THAT FOO IN THE S.H.U...MAN, LOOK AT SIR DYNO, OR WHATEVER HIS NAME IS...NOW THATS A RATA, QUE NO???

WHY DO ALL THESE SCRAPS TALK BOUT OH DOWN HERE IN L.A ITS CARZY ASS FUCK...I BEEN 2 L.A MANY TIMES WALKED AROUND THE MALL IN SANTA ANA ALL FLAMED UP AND NEVER GOT RUSHED....ITS FUNNY HOW FOOS FROM L.A TALK BOUT THEIR TOWN LIKE ITS THE WORST PLACE 2 BE AND SHIT...........