Study: Immigrants’ skin tone affects earnings

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HERESY

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In our past threads about immigration/illegal immigration I talked about how lighter people tend to earn more and are treated a bit better (both in their country of origin and america.)

Read this:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16831909/

Here is an excerpt:

Economics professor Shelley White-Means of the University of Tennessee at Memphis said the study adds to the growing body of evidence that there is a "preference for whiteness" in America that goes beyond race.
The quotes around the "preference for whiteness" is in the article. Is white right?
 
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White isn't right. It's luck. But it doesn't mean you cant be even prouder at the fact that if you're not you'll have to have to struggle just to succeed, which should, at least theoretically, be more fufilling.
 
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MEXICANCOMMANDO said:
White isn't right. It's luck. But it doesn't mean you cant be even prouder at the fact that if you're not you'll have to have to struggle just to succeed, which should, at least theoretically, be more fufilling.
probably more fulfilling to climb a mountain than fly to the top in a chopper, but id prefer the chopper.
 
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yeah my brother gets hella racial slurs thrown at him, and he always tells me how lucky i was to come out light skinned.

~k.
 
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nhojsmith said:
probably more fulfilling to climb a mountain than fly to the top in a chopper, but id prefer the chopper.
there's no pride in not working to reach the top. some are content with that. others arent.
 

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MEXICANCOMMANDO said:
White isn't right. It's luck. But it doesn't mean you cant be even prouder at the fact that if you're not you'll have to have to struggle just to succeed, which should, at least theoretically, be more fufilling.
White isn't right? All your presidents have been white, the majority of those who control this countries wealth are white, the views/values that are heavily promoted in this country are white/eurocentric, so I would have to disagree.
 
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HERESY said:
White isn't right? All your presidents have been white, the majority of those who control this countries wealth are white, the views/values that are heavily promoted in this country are white/eurocentric, so I would have to disagree.
No, I stick to my creed that white isn't right. It's luck. Being born rich isn't right. It's luck. Being born with two arms isn't right. It's luck. Being born not mentally retarded like half this board isn't right. It's luck.

Maybe it's easier to be born white. But I wouldn't consider it "right," because I will never accept white dominance, no matter how true it may be.
 
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xpanther206 said:
Go to any college, a good chunk of their "students of color" population will be very light skinned, usually half-white.
And this proves what? Because amny assumptions can be made. Some that might even promote "white superiority."
 
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In my experience people tend to cling to their non-white side as firmly as possible unless they were raised by their (usually) white mothers and have a serious cultural gap.
 
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MEXICANCOMMANDO said:
No, I stick to my creed that white isn't right. It's luck. Being born rich isn't right. It's luck. Being born with two arms isn't right. It's luck. Being born not mentally retarded like half this board isn't right. It's luck.

Maybe it's easier to be born white. But I wouldn't consider it "right," because I will never accept white dominance, no matter how true it may be.
luck? hhahahaha. i think it has more to do with historical rape of other cultures. at least you acknowledge your bias in your last two sentances.
 
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Yes it's luck. If you are born white you are AUTOMATICALLY given boons that no other ethnic group will ever enjoy. That is "luck," since it took nothing but chance to "earn" it.
 
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MEXICANCOMMANDO said:
Yes it's luck. If you are born white you are AUTOMATICALLY given boons that no other ethnic group will ever enjoy. That is "luck," since it took nothing but chance to "earn" it.

if you are born white you are automatically given "boons" no other ethnic group has because your ancestros raped other cultures and took over the world. this was not a chance circumstance, i assure it took effort for them to globe trot and rape ethnic women and raze villages and plot and scheme to control the masses.

luck (noun): an unknown and unpredictable phenomenon that causes an event to result one way rather than another

by your own words it has nothing to do with luck, because even you admit that whites are automatically given these rights and benefits. this hardly seems like an unpredictable phenomenon. You just predicted it!!!!!!
 
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nhojsmith said:
if you are born white you are automatically given "boons" no other ethnic group has because your ancestros raped other cultures and took over the world. this was not a chance circumstance, i assure it took effort for them to globe trot and rape ethnic women and raze villages and plot and scheme to control the masses.
And there in lies the fallacy to your whole arguement. It took THEM effort. It would not have taken you anything more than being the right sperm at the right egg.
nhojsmith said:
luck (noun): an unknown and unpredictable phenomenon that causes an event to result one way rather than another
I know the definition. And I didn't need to look it up either.
nhojsmith said:
by your own words it has nothing to do with luck, because even you admit that whites are automatically given these rights and benefits. this hardly seems like an unpredictable phenomenon. You just predicted it!!!!!!
And once again you do not grasp what I am saying. I am NOT talking about simply being white. I am talking about being born white.
 
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MEXICANCOMMANDO said:
And there in lies the fallacy to your whole arguement. It took THEM effort. It would not have taken you anything more than being the right sperm at the right egg.

I know the definition. And I didn't need to look it up either.

And once again you do not grasp what I am saying. I am NOT talking about simply being white. I am talking about being born white.

then in your eyes, every form of life is "luck". there is not point discussing this with you anymore you lucky bastard.
 

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but wouldnt the reasoning for every form of lifes luck differ?

like whites are lucky becuase of what was stated above, blacks born today are lucky cuz slavery ended, etc?