Stockton's eschatological belief is corrupted and wrong

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Eschatology-The Study of Final Events

I'm a Post Tribulation Rapture Believer
I believe souls go to Heaven after death, and that some souls wait God takes them
Abraham's Bosom is Paradise, a SDA doctrine
USA=Babylon
The Anti-Christ=A man from the Middle East, Gog=Assyria, Mahdi Connections along with, Final Pope
I believe in an everlasting hell and heaven
There is no purgatory, which you believe
Not only is the whore the Catholic Church, but the Apostate "Christian" church as a whole, both Protestant and Catholics.
John 4:16 Obviously states there can be no way into heaven but by Christ
Most of these disaster and Diseases are part of the Seven seals of Revelation
 
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The Red Sin said:
Show me a post, where I directly judge someone. You're probably going to bring up, my if you don't believe in Jesus you're going to hell, or if you Believe in God but live against the life you're going to hell huh?
If I did bring these up it would be the same thing. Unless of course you make en excuse such as you were joking when you said that. Or didn't mean it when you said that. But I'm tired (i actually started from the last point to this one and am tired. reply to this and i'll exert more energy later.)
The Red Sin said:
Can I really condemn, or convict someone, I thought God could? So how am I?
Neither have you, and you're quick to judge, because you assume shit from what I post. Talking about judging
1. Can you? No. Do you still tell people where they are going? Yes.
2. I know I haven't which is why I'm not so brash about bashing others whose theological beliefs don't agree with mine. Infact I don't think I've ever done it before. Unless of course they're the prick asshole atheist who frequent the boards and need a quick kick in the ass.

The Red Sin said:
Oh yeah? Prove it, because I asked you why you believed Abraham's Bosom wasn't paradise, you're going to go on that? You have a big ego, for someone who claims they are THE FOLLOWER OF THE WAY. I never labeled myself anything, or some super christian.
I did prove it. I even showed you where to look. Abraham's Bosom is NOT paradise. Paradise is Eden/Heaven/whatever the hell you want to call it. Paradise is where you go once you've been judged. Abraham's Bosom is where you go if you're righteous BUT BEFORE you've been judged. These people waiting in paradise are waiting for the judgement.

Read Enoch in it you have Sheol devided into 4 sections depending on who you were in life. One for the goodsaintly [Abrahams Bosom], one of the moderately good waiting for judgement, one for the wicked that are awaiting judgement, and the last one for the wicked that aren't going to receive a "judgement."

I am a follower of the way in the sense that I believe myself to know and follow the way. But I am the BIGGEST supporter in not judging others for their religious ideals. I don't think I've even done it ONCE. As I find myself to be a hypocrite because I don't live like I should, hence I've no right to cast stones at others.
The Red Sin said:
What makes you think I don't, you're quick to assume shit.
Can the same be said for you?
I know you don't. You know you don't. Sure you can google it and play it off like you know, but if you did then you wouldn't be idolizing a graven image by wearing it on your person or by having an avatar that alphabetically represents the tetra-grammaton which Jewish law [remember the one Jesus upholds] forbids. Jesus wouldn't because he was a Jew, what's your excuse?
 

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Are you sure you want me to tear you a new one? Just give me permission and I will do what HERESY should have.
He is still learning, and I'm not his teacher which is why his "correction" from me is very limited. However, when he does go overboard and comes at folks sideways, I do hit him on pm and let him know it isn't cool. When someone has the zeal that he has you have to treat it like iron and we all know iron sharpens iron. I take my hat off to you for explaining it to him, and I take my hat off to him for actually listening and being able to show humility.
 
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MEXCOM said:
If I did bring these up it would be the same thing. Unless of course you make en excuse such as you were joking when you said that. Or didn't mean it when you said that. But I'm tired (i actually from the last point to this one and am tired. reply to this and i'll exert more energy later.)
Rest my brotha. If you found any, it proves me wrong, and nothing more. I won't play shit out, when I'm exposed or if I've lost, I will admit to my mistakes, give me one, and therein it you find my judging a person.
MEXCOM said:
1. Can you? No. Do you still tell people where they are going? Yes.
2. I know I haven't which is why I'm not so brash about bashing others whose theological beliefs don't agree with mine. Infact I don't think I've ever done it before. Unless of course they're the prick asshole atheist who frequent the boards and need a quick kick in the ass.
When I first came to the GOM, I was inclined into trying to convert or tell all those with theologies contrary to mine, that they would go to hell. Then I took a quick pause, and noticed most of these people I was arguing with, were atheists, like you said. Then I made that stupid thread, where I was ignorant on Islam, I kept digging myself into a whole, until I finally saw my flaws. So MEXCOM, as a FOLLOWER OF THE WAY, if a man were to ask you, "If I reject jesus, after I've inquired about him, would I go to hell?" Would you tell him yes, or put on a front, like many "Christians" and say, as long as you do good, you're ok and put a big smile on your face?
MEXCOM said:
I did prove it. I even showed you where to look. Abraham's Bosom is NOT paradise.
No you didn't, and I'll show you why
MEXCOM said:
I even showed you where to look. Abraham's Bosom is NOT paradise. Paradise is Eden/Heaven/whatever the hell you want to call it.
Surely you can explain this Paradise of which Jesus speaks of in Luke 23:43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise. Did Jesus enter Heaven before the 3 day fulfillment? Nah homes, it was paradise and sheol.
MEXCOM said:
Abraham's Bosom is where you go if you're righteous BUT BEFORE you've been judged. These people waiting in paradise are waiting for the judgement.
Exactly what Abraham's Bosom is, thanks for speaking on my behalf.
MEXCOM said:
Read Enoch in it you have Sheol devided into 4 sections depending on who you were in life. One for the goodsaintly [Abrahams Bosom], one of the moderately good waiting for judgement, one for the wicked that are awaiting judgement, and the last one for the wicked that aren't going to receive a "judgement."
Ok, how does this prove that Paradise is not Abraham's Bosom. Why Paradise is exclusive in association with Heaven?
MEXCOM said:
I am a follower of the way in the sense that I believe myself to know and follow the way. But I am the BIGGEST supporter in not judging others for their religious ideals.
When the Disciples entered Greece , what do you think their purpose was, to spread the gospel, which was the good news and Doctrines of Christ right? What do they say to those that worship other gods, Acts 17:25 in conjunction with the First commandment. Do I automatically assume people will go to hell, of course not, in some cases yes. When you preach, do you put a front on, or remain truthful?
MEXCOM said:
I know you don't. You know you don't. Sure you can google it and play it off like you know, but if you did then you wouldn't be idolizing a graven image by wearing it on your person or by having an avatar that alphabetically represents the tetra-grammaton. Jesus wouldn't because he was a Jew, what's your excuse?
No need to google, if my response took so long, I had to look up scripture, and as far as me idolizing a graven image, how so? Jesus Drew a fish, it symbolizes Christianity. Jesus uses the Greek alphabet, Alpha and Omega, to show his deity. In the OT God, used Hebrew Letters in his Temple, and the Torah. I'm probably not getting you at this last post, I think you're tired. More tomorrow since you said you're tired. Unless you want to continue?
 
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n9newunsixx5150 said:
Just curious. What is the qualification needed to go to Heaven after death instead of waiting?
Well, FROM MY perspective, or according to the bible, you Must accept Jesus Christ, as messiah, Lord, Mediator, God, Son of God, the resurrection, his legacy and live out your life for him. although we will always fall short of being perfect, his grace and mercy allows us to be forgive of our sins. Read MEXCOM's 4 parts of Sheol, he explains it well.
 
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So what you are saying is that immediately upon death, those who accept Jesus Christ as their savior and live their lives for him will go to Heaven? What about those souls who have to wait? I guess they have not received salvation? And what are they waiting for... to go to hell?
 
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So what you are saying is that immediately upon death, those who accept Jesus Christ as their savior and live their lives for him will go to Heaven?
Not necessarily, you can say you believe and love jesus all you want, but if you're living a life where your sins outweigh your faith, it's up to Jesus to judge you. Jesus said, that we would have everlasting life, SHOULD we believe in Jesus Christ, but he's the final judge of things.
What about those souls who have to wait?
You mean after Jesus resurrected? Those souls waiting for judgment before his Resurrection, where taken up to heaven with him, those waiting in the the other place of hell, remained there, waiting for the white throne judgment and the preparation of the lake of fire.
I guess they have not received salvation? And what are they waiting for... to go to hell?
Some are already in hell, but it's not the lake of fire, which is the final destination for the wicked dead.
 
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I guess you mean not that saved souls go to Heaven immediately upon death, but that they wait until judgment...???

I was confused because it seemed like you were saying that some saved souls get immediate entry into Heaven upon physical death, but then other souls had to wait for something.
 
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BigLurch said:
stockton, may i just say that you need to be shot, and i would love to do it with a fuckin passion
Haha, if you ended up killing me, the homeboys would track you down, and shoot your whole family up, even though I would tell them not to, losing a homeboy especially after one has fallen recently, not a good idea. Just a word of advice.
 
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im just sick of every single one of your 7 thousand posts beign something about religion...keep is to yourself, people know how to live their own lives, we dont need to trying to convince us whats right and whats wrong by gods words, round up some money and open up a church and go preach there
 
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BigLurch said:
im just sick of every single one of your 7 thousand posts beign something about religion...keep is to yourself, people know how to live their own lives, we dont need to trying to convince us whats right and whats wrong by gods words, round up some money and open up a church and go preach there
Then don't read it! Still want to take up the challenge of killing me with a passion? You better go do it without witnesses, cause if there are any witnesses, don't worry about the police, it's the homeboys you have to worry about. Now go add up your 300 posts for the I-Candy you lame. That's the only reason you're here anyways, for I-candy.