STERN TO SUSPEND REF. CRAWFORD?

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Sep 17, 2005
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A little over a year ago, a little birdie who has been around the NBA almost as long as I have been alive told me a little story about Joey Crawford, who ejected Tim Duncan from Sunday's Mavs-Spurs game for laughing -- yes, laughing -- from the bench.

For the blow-by-blow of what happened Sunday, including Duncan's claim afterward that Crawford challenged him to a fight, be sure to check out Marc Stein's latest blog entry.

What I'm here to give you is a little Insider background, as well as the following quasi-prediction: It would not surprise me if Crawford loses his whistle for the upcoming postseason.

Here's why:

That little birdie I spoke of before told me that Crawford was summoned to the league office in New York by Commissioner David Stern nearly four years ago following his antics in Game 2 of the 2003 Western Conference finals.

Crawford had called four technical fouls in the first 10 minutes, 11 seconds and ejected Mavs coaches Don Nelson and Del Harris. Here's the way I reported that story way back then when I was the pool reporter who interviewed Crawford in the officials' locker room after the game.

Stern, from what I was told, was livid that Crawford had become the story of Game 2, and Crawford was told that if it ever happened again, the consequences would be serious.

Well, it sure looks like Crawford is the story again, and I'm eager to see how Stern and NBA vice president Stu Jackson handle this.

Nothing infuriates Stern like seeing the words "conspiracy theory" in print, but Stein has already gone there, and a lot of others are going to be going there, too -- especially if Crawford ends up being assigned to a Spurs game during the playoffs.

The easiest way to prevent that from happening would be for Stern to give Crawford an early summer vacation, explaining to the 56-year-old how undignified it is to be challenging players to fights, and how he was warned before to knock off the shenanigans.

Yes, Crawford has 31 years of NBA experience. Yes, he has worked 38 NBA Finals games, 266 postseason games and more than 2,000 games overall. And yes, he is from the first family of American officiating (Joey is the son of retired Major League Baseball umpire Shag Crawford and the brother of veteran ump Jerry Crawford).

He can be a joy to be around on his good days, but Crawford can become bigger than the game itself when he's feeling ornery, and his temper might one day end up having an effect on which team wins the championship. San Antonio lost yesterday's game by missing its final nine shots over the final 6:30 with Duncan unavailable. I dare say the Spurs' finish would have been different had Duncan not been booted, and it'd be a disaster to have the same thing happen if these teams meet in the Western Conference finals.

After all the debate about the officiating we went through last June following Dirk Nowitzki's questionable foul against Dwyane Wade late in Game 5 of the NBA Finals, does the league really need to put itself in harm's way by assigning the bombastic and confrontational Crawford to officiate?

I don't think Stern and Stu Jackson are willing to take that chance, which is why I've got a hunch we may have seen the last of Joey Crawford until next season.
Man seriously that was total bullshit to call Duncan for that second T from the bench. Even if your gonna call a T for that bullshit the ref should use some discretion concerning the 2nd tech knowing thats an ejection. I mean Im a Spurs fan but I would say that if that happened to anyone (besides Rasheed) That muthafucka challenged Tim Duncan to a fight. Duncan shoulda whooped his has LOL. Mavs got lucky last night man.
 
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Man I hate the Spurs there stlye of play they way they flop and have the refs in there pockets I think its the worst type of basketball in the league...But still that was some pussy shit Crawford did to Duncan..
 
Mar 16, 2005
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ok, here is an a bit of an article I read on MSN:

Crawford disagreed, saying that "he was complaining the whole game."

"And then he went over to the bench and he was over there doing the same stuff behind our back," Crawford said. "I hit him with one (technical) and he kept going over there, and I look over there and he's still complaining. So I threw him out."

Crawford spoke to a pool reporter before Duncan spoke to the media. Asked about Duncan not thinking he deserved to be tossed, Crawford said: "That's his opinion. He said nothing when he was walking off the court and he called me a piece of (expletive). Is that nothing?"






I believe Crawford. The Spurs are the biggest bunch of flopping cry babies to ever grace a basketball court. I sit close enough to the floor that I can hear alot going at at nuggets games and what Crawfors is true when it comes to ther Spurs in Denver. THEY BITCH AT EVERYTHING!!

They could outright tackle a guy and say they didn't do anything but then next trip down court Ginobli flops like the bitch he us and Duncan can get looked at wrong and cries!


FUCK THE SPURS!
 
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LOL @ Crawford tryin to throw that "piece of shit" comment like it had anything substantial to do wit the T's. That shit happend after he was ejected. Ehh it dont matter SA is gonna make quick work of the scrub ass Nuggets like they always do. I think you must be confused and are referring to Carmela trying to tackle Ginobili after he was makin Carmella look like a fool in the playoffs last time LOL. Na Denver might make it interesting this year but they arent even in the Spurs class.
 
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OG_Carl_Weather said:
LOL @ Crawford tryin to throw that "piece of shit" comment like it had anything substantial to do wit the T's. That shit happend after he was ejected. Ehh it dont matter SA is gonna make quick work of the scrub ass Nuggets like they always do. I think you must be confused and are referring to Carmela trying to tackle Ginobili after he was makin Carmella look like a fool in the playoffs last time LOL. Na Denver might make it interesting this year but they arent even in the Spurs class.

ahhhhh Spurs fan that doesn't see both sides of the issues I see...lol


Watch any Spurs game unbiased and you would see what I am talking about. I only mentioned the nuggets because I am actually in attendance close enough to hear things....but watch the shit on tv against other teams and you see much of the same...so it's not just a nuggets thing with me!
 
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thascary1 said:
ahhhhh Spurs fan that doesn't see both sides of the issues I see...lol


Watch any Spurs game unbiased and you would see what I am talking about. I only mentioned the nuggets because I am actually in attendance close enough to hear things....but watch the shit on tv against other teams and you see much of the same...so it's not just a nuggets thing with me!
Same thing can be said about ANY team in the league. They all complain. They complain about the other team complaining too much tryin to get Ts drawn on the opposition.
 
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MrPeete said:
Same thing can be said about ANY team in the league. They all complain. They complain about the other team complaining too much tryin to get Ts drawn on the opposition.

mmmmm to a degree, but NOT every team.

teams as a whole...Pistons, Spurs, Suns & Mavs are teams I see get the benefit of the doubt

Thats part of the reason I don't watch the sport as much. Travelling doesn't get called, bullshit calls for 1 team but not for the other, poor shooting, etc etc etc...the sport is nowhere near what it used to be.
 
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MrPeete.

I guess what I meant is they complain about 1 thing, but they go down the court and get pissed when the ref calls a foul for an obvious foul.

it's the crying and 1 sidedness of the calls that pisses me off.
 
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thascary1 said:
MrPeete.

I guess what I meant is they complain about 1 thing, but they go down the court and get pissed when the ref calls a foul for an obvious foul.

it's the crying and 1 sidedness of the calls that pisses me off.
Again, if you go case by case, team by team, you'll see that every team does that.

You might be faulting the team because you may not like how a particular player complains but all teams whine when shit doesn't go their way.
 
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thascary1 said:
mmmmm to a degree, but NOT every team.

teams as a whole...Pistons, Spurs, Suns & Mavs are teams I see get the benefit of the doubt

Thats part of the reason I don't watch the sport as much. Travelling doesn't get called, bullshit calls for 1 team but not for the other, poor shooting, etc etc etc...the sport is nowhere near what it used to be.
Those are the four best teams in the NBA, of course everyone else would like to complain about them......
 
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OG_Carl_Weather said:
Those are the four best teams in the NBA, of course everyone else would like to complain about them......

right but because you are the best team doesn't mean you should get bullshit calls while being able to foul the other team all you want.


Watch Portland vs Spurs and then see the discrpenacy of bullshit calls in the game!

and yet even though Spurs will get bullshit calls all night they bitch like women when they actually god forbid get a foul called on them.
 
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thascary1 said:
right but because you are the best team doesn't mean you should get bullshit calls while being able to foul the other team all you want.


Watch Portland vs Spurs and then see the discrpenacy of bullshit calls in the game!

and yet even though Spurs will get bullshit calls all night they bitch like women when they actually god forbid get a foul called on them.
I agree. Of all the teams the Spurs get the bullshit calls come on Manu gots a parody song in his own city about him so dont tell me the dude is not a flopping fish or Parker whaling his hands in the air every time he has the ball and shoots in a lane, or Duncan cries for fouls he commits all I'm saying is that fucking type of B-ball is pathetic go hard to the lane expecting no calls shoot trying for the bucket not the foul...
 
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Spurs suck, fuck the Spurs LOL! Everyone is entitled to their opinions... Its all gravy though even if you all think we flop or play boring basketball but we're winning CHAMPIONSHIPS and thats all that counts.
 
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WayCide-Ridah said:
spurs succ...i ain't into bball as much as i used to be...bacc in "Jordan's" era n' shit
Spurs succ? I think having the 3rd best record in the NBA would deter that comment....not to mention 3 championships in the last 8 years. Also, they have the longest active playoff streak in the NBA. How about this tidbit: the SA Spurs havent missed the playoffs since Duncan was drafted.

Yes they "succ". :rolleyes:
 
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Ha ha that bitch is suspended indefinitley.
http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/6697236

NEW YORK (AP) - NBA referee Joey Crawford was suspended indefinitely by commissioner David Stern on Tuesday for his conduct toward Tim Duncan, who contends the ref challenged him to a fight.

Crawford ejected Duncan from a game in Dallas on Sunday, calling a second technical foul on the San Antonio Spurs star while he was on the bench.
"He looked at me and said, 'Do you want to fight? Do you want to fight?"' Duncan said. "If he wants to fight, we can fight. I don't have any problem with him, but we can do it if he wants to. I have no reason why in the middle of a game he would yell at me, 'Do you want to fight?"'

Crawford's suspension will last at least through the NBA finals