Spiritual Powers.. something to make you think...

[40ozThugsta]

Alright now i've studied the bible..
and also magic shit...
and talked to people who know about spiritual power first hand....

Here's one thing that always made me think.....

now God's name in the scriptures is this :

YHWH also YHVH or JHVH or JHWH (yʊd'hä'väv'hä', yä'wā, yä'wĕ)
n.
The Hebrew Tetragrammaton representing the name of God.

So this is his name....

But now Cerimonial Magicians... also use the name of God
in the conjuring up of demonic spirits.....

http://www.spellsandmagic.com/Triangle.html

In the Triangle of Solomon a magical Triangle used to contain demons.... u see the Word Tetragrammaton on the triangle...in the link above (you can also read that page to learn more about it)
which is supposed to help keep the demon inside... cause it's a devine name......

Now magicians really conjure these demons... and they really stay in that circle...
and King Solomon is thought to have written this method of conjuring spirits......
and in the Bible is says God gave him speical Wisdom......maybe this was part of that wisdom???

but why would YHWH the Tetragrammaton be written in the bible...
AND in these magical books of conjuring demons....
I can't just go up to some presist and ask.. he would tell me
not to be reading this occult shit right? that's all they ever say...
is not to read anything... that's not from God...

I believe spirits are real...
but this is something that has been bothering me...
and everytime.. i try to tell someone about it...
they tell me im trying to dig to deep into things i shouldn't ....
but i like to know everything i can......

does anyone know the reasons for this...??
or have any ideas....

Also God's real name was removed from most new bibles...
i wonder why..... HMMMMMMM

Makes you think...

 

[XianeX]

I love magick. I can do a few things with a quarter that is amazing LMMFAO

 

[40ozThugsta]

that's nice.. ^^^
that's not magic though....
that's only tricks and sleight of hand...

 

[MEXCOM]

Conjure up Moloch. He rules!

 

[nefar559]

why is this on GoM? lol@magic ... just like aliens, demons, lockness. and pseudoscience

 

[40ozThugsta]

ccytzo come on peep this thread man.....

 

[ValleyPainProduct]

i really dont know what to tell ya Murda...im not too familar wit magic so i cant comment....

but....reffering to your question of the bible containing the name that is used in a spell to conjure demons.....

i would have to say that the bible is a tool that was writtin by MEN for many reasons....one of em being mind control....there are a lot of things in it that contradict.....maybe its really evil???? who knows....

 

[40ozThugsta]

see thats what i was thinking.....
i mean like the new bibles don;t have YHVH or JHVH or JHWH aka Tetragrammaton
in them.. cause they said they wanted to take it out since god's name is sacred....
now they all just say Lord or God.....

but when magicians.. conjure demons... Tetragrammaton is written on the circle....
God;s name is good so then demons are afraid of it.. so they stay in the triangle...

but it;s just weird... that they use the name of God.. in these rituals.....
and even more weird... is that King Solomon is suspected of writing these methods..
and he was very close to God...

it's just weird..... and yeah i was just seeing that there is some things in the bible that contradict....
like in the beggining it said a servant of God was looking.. for an Omen...to find out the future....
and then in another book.. it says.. you must not look for Omens....

so it;s like.. i don't know... this is just another mystery....
I think that once the original bible was real...
but with time.. people took things out.. and added..
just the things they wanted in there.....
in that aspect i have to say that man did... mess with the bible...
and molded it into what they wanted...

 

[MEXCOM]

i would have to say that the bible is a tool that was writtin by MEN for many reasons....one of em being mind control....there are a lot of things in it that contradict.....maybe its really evil???? who knows....

I never understood this. How does the bible equate with mind controlling? And what exactly contradicts?

 

[Formaldehyde Rx]

lol @ "Now magicians really conjure these demons... and they really stay in that circle..."

i wonder if they can conjure the Goalgothan shit demon?

 

[40ozThugsta]

naw only the Goetic demons ^^^
anyways i shoud've known no one would know what this was about...

 

[MEXCOM]

naw only the Goetic demons ^^^
anyways i shoud've known no one would know what this was about...

You thought wrong.

 

[40ozThugsta]

whats up?? ^^^
hey man so what's your opinion on what im saying in the thread?
but seriously though...
cause everyone just be thinking im jokin around ... just posting jokes...
instead of replies.. so it makes it seems like they don't have nothing to say... about it...

but i was trying to just see people's real opinions on this..
but hardly nobody takes discussions serious lol...
all good though.....
but yeaah lemme know your opinion man..

 

[MEXCOM]

Well first of your "Triangle" has three words written in ENGLISH. YWHW is a Hebrew word so I really doubt you'd be able to summon anything like that. Personally I don't study too much Demonology, right now I'm into Angeology and trying to get that down in my head, afterwards I might study demons. The Lesser and Greater keys of Solomon are books that supposedly teach you how to conjure up demons, I'm not sure if that's true, I don't know or want to know how to conjure up demons, devils, angels, spirits, gods, etc. I do know about texts about them though. Searched on here and found this link:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...UTZ9UPH9/ref=cm_lm_dp_m_1/002-7611626-6097661
now, like I said, I don't and wouldn't advise you to do this shit. Not too long ago I saw what looked like Horus and it didn't necesarily scare me but I was surprised, I think he wasn't so much Horus as the future anti-Christ but who knows. Never the less, Ba'al is supposedly the ruler of the 66 legions of Demons, try not to conjure him up, and stay away from thr black arts man.

 

[40ozThugsta]

For real i feel you man...
i just like to study all kinds of stuff
from the Bible... and magic.. and physic abilites... and all that....

But yeah man i don;t play with the black arts
they ain;t a toy...

Well i know some people who have summoned demons and all that...
they don't conjure the demons with the Triangle...
they use a conjuration so summon them some words they have to say...
but the they demon appears in the Triangle...
Tegragramtron is supposed to mean the four letters
of Gods name in hebrew..... it;s supposed to mean those four letters
in english....
demons can read any langauge and speak any langauge
when the magician summons it he uses the hebrew name for God


but the thing is... i think they using God's name in a wrong way....
using it for magic and all that.. u know???
i just think it's crazy how magicians use Devine names
of God and Angels... to protect themselves from demons....

cause the magic circle protects the magicians from the demons when they summons it..
and the triangle keeps the demon imprisioned while he talks to it....

But yeah i ain't gonna actually try any of this
black arts can be dangerous...

Ohh i'd never try to mess with Ba'al.. he;s the most evil geotic demon.....

so your studying Angeology man?
i havn't studied that yet....
but I will later
i just know about some angel script
and some of the angels names and ranks...
but havn;t studied it that deeply.....
thats real coo that you studying that man

[qoute]Not too long ago I saw what looked like Horus and it didn't necesarily scare me but I was surprised, I think he wasn't so much Horus as the future anti-Christ but who knows.[/qoute]

Hey man when you saw him?? what happened??? he like just appeared out of nowhere..
or did you see him in your mind.. or in a dream????
damm that's crazy.. tell me more about this... and what happened if you can..

 

[MEXCOM]

Hey man when you saw him?? what happened??? he like just appeared out of nowhere..
or did you see him in your mind.. or in a dream????
damm that's crazy.. tell me more about this... and what happened if you can..

I was praying. Trying to talk to God since I hadn't in over 4 months. I haven't been able to feel his presence and I was lost so I spoke and tried to "listen" to his responce. Then all of a sudden I feel cold and i feel fear (but I'm not afraid..I just feel the essence of fear) and I see a dark black man with a head of a bird. He was clad in what seemed to be very traditional Egyptian garb and he was only there for 2 seconds tops, after that I felt HIM and I asked him what i wanted, he gave me an answer and he told me to go to sleep, so I did.

 

[40ozThugsta]

Dammm man that shit is a trip.....
i know what you mean by feelin that Cold air... and feelin the presence
of fear... like a feelin evil in near.....

dammm i gotta say i ain;t ever seen any spiritual entiny in my life...
but i've deaf felt the presence... of good and bad spirts around me....

Or if im in a place that is haunted i can;t see anything.. but i can feel that they are their...

 

[ValleyPainProduct]

I never understood this. How does the bible equate with mind controlling? And what exactly contradicts?

well im not implying that its used to say control someone to the extent that theyll do as you wish....but damn near close....look at our country...if it wasnt for bible loving jesus freaks in the midwest GW bush would most likely not be in office for a second term....and i dont tend to keep all the info at the top of my head but ive come across a lotta shit that contradicts....when i can really think of all these things again and write em down ill let you know....

 

[MC_PM$]

Man my opinion is that Magic is a serious thing to fuck with! It does exist and I myself believe that tampering with it without some understanding of it's powers would result in some really fucked up shit happening!

 

[40ozThugsta]

Yeah MC PM$.....
it's real .. and if you fuck wit it.. without stuying it deeply...
some fucked up shit will happen...