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Thursday, January 6, 2005 · Last updated 10:58 a.m. PT

AP: India tribe members survive tsunami


By NEELESH MISRA AND RUPAK SANYAL
ASSOCIATED PRESS WRITERS




JIRKATANG, India -- Armed with bows and arrows, seven men from the ancient Jarawa tribe came out of the forest Thursday for the first time since India's isolated Anadaman and Nicobar islands were shaken by an earthquake and battered by a tsunami.

In a rare meeting with outsiders, the men said all 250 members of the tribe escaped inland and were surviving on coconuts.

"We are all safe after the earthquake. We are in the forest in Balughat," said one of the men, Ashu.




Even though the Jarawas sometimes meet with local officials to receive government-funded supplies, the tribe is wary of visitors.

"My world is in the forest," Ashu said in broken Hindi through an interpreter in a restricted forest area at the northern end of South Andaman Island. "Your world is outside. We don't like people from outside."

Anthropologists estimate the island's more primitive tribes of Jarawas, Great Andamanese, Onges, Sentinelese and Shompens have dwindled to only 400 to 1,000 people. Most of the territory's 350,000 people are members of the larger Nicobarese tribe and ethnic Indians.



Some DNA studies indicate the tribes' ancestors may have left Africa 70,000 years ago and passed through what is now Indonesia before settling on these islands, scientists say.



Government officials and anthropologists have speculated ancient knowledge of the movement of wind, sea and birds may have saved the indigenous tribes from the tsunami that killed 901 people and left 5,914 missing on the islands. But Ashu and his companions refused to talk about how they avoided the devastating waves.

The seven Jarawa men - wearing only underwear and amulets - emerged from the forest to meet at this outpost with government officials, who were accompanied by two reporters and a photographer for The Associated Press.

Ashu, who said he was in his early 20s, gave his name and those of three others of his tribe as Danna, Lah and Tawai. Like many south Indians, they use only one name.

The men stopped the AP photographer from taking pictures. "We fall sick if we are photographed," Ashu said. In the past, tourists who have tried to take photographs have had their cameras smashed by tribesmen.

Ashu showed off his bow, arrows and a metal box containing ash with which he smears his face and forehead during ceremonies.

He gestured with his hands and asked for "khamma" - water in the dialect used by the Jarawas - and drank from a bottle offered to him.

When asked what they typically eat, Ashu said pork and fish killed with arrows. "And we like honey."

He said tourists sometimes throw packages of cookies from buses, adding: "We don't like when tourists throw things at us. They should give it to our hands."

Plus, packaged food upsets their stomachs, he said. "We prefer to eat green and roasted bananas. Ripe bananas make us sick."

The Jarawas didn't have any contact with government authorities until 1996. A year later, tribesmen stormed a police outpost and killed a guard with arrows. But relations with police have calmed, said an officer, who called the Jarawas "good friends."

Relations with townspeople seem more prickly. Ethnic Indians expressed wariness of their neighbors from the forest, and both sides remain as far apart as they were nearly a decade ago when contact with the tribe was first made.

During the height of summer, when water holes dry up, Jarawas often come into town looking for water. Their presence frightens some villagers, and police sometimes are called in to persuade the tribesmen to leave.

Ethnic prejudice is evident. When asked whether tribespeople live near town, an Indian shopkeeper, Muthuswamy, sniffed: "Jarawas don't live here. Only humans."

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PORT BLAIR, India - Two days after a tsunami thrashed the island where his ancestors have lived for tens of thousands of years, a lone tribesman stood naked on the beach and looked up at a hovering coast guard helicopter.

He then took out his bow and shot an arrow toward the rescue chopper.

It was a signal the Sentinelese have sent out to the world for millennia: They want to be left alone. Isolated from the rest of the world, the tribesmen needed to learn nature's sights, sounds and smells to survive.

Government officials and anthropologists believe that ancient knowledge of the movement of wind, sea and birds may have saved the five indigenous tribes on the Indian archipelago of Andaman and Nicobar islands from the tsunami that hit the Asian coastline Dec. 26.

"They can smell the wind. They can gauge the depth of the sea with the sound of their oars. They have a sixth sense which we don't possess," said Ashish Roy, a local environmentalist and lawyer who has called on the courts to protect the tribes by preventing their contact with the outside world.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6786476/
 
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2-0-Sixx said:
Thanks for pointing out something completely irrelevent to purpose of the article.
fer real....anyway..good article...those people have alot of heart...ill tell you that...and their suppsoed "sixth sense" is probably true..its amazing what you can learn/develop over thousands of years..their whole life is earth...thats y they are masters of its knowledge
 
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2 0 - I was pointing out something in the article and you are most welcome.
I'm glad they ran inland and survived the tidal wave but do I have to agree with the hippy crap the article is saturated with, nope. As a donor, I hope my cash gets to those that appreciate the assistance and not those that are shooting arrows at the delivery mechanism taking it to them and clearly expressing that they dont want it.

70 - How are they masters of its knowledge, I missed that in the article.
 
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Relax. You should be more concerned about WHO you donated your money too than a tiny little tribe that consists of about 300 or so people.

NOTE: No where in the article did it say they were shooting arrows at helicoptors are hostile to outsiders, it simply states they prefer to be left alone.
 
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70 - How are they masters of its knowledge, I missed that in the article.
It doesn't necessary say how but it says,
“Government officials and anthropologists have speculated ancient knowledge of the movement of wind, sea and birds may have saved the indigenous tribes from the tsunami”
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"They can smell the wind. They can gauge the depth of the sea with the sound of their oars. They have a sixth sense which we don't possess," said Ashish Roy, a local environmentalist and lawyer who has called on the courts to protect the tribes by preventing their contact with the outside world."

Also, they didn’t take any help. One guy simply drank water out of one of the reporters water bottle.
“He gestured with his hands and asked for "khamma" - water in the dialect used by the Jarawas - and drank from a bottle offered to him. “
 
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70 - How are they masters of its knowledge, I missed that in the article.[/QUOTE]


Government officials and anthropologists believe that ancient knowledge of the movement of wind, sea and birds may have saved the five indigenous tribes on the Indian archipelago of Andaman and Nicobar islands from the tsunami that hit the Asian coastline Dec. 26.

^^right there homeboy...
 
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They were shooting arrows at the choppers, I think it's hella funny... I heard about this on Howard Stern yesterday as well when Robin was reading the news.

Anyone ever read Daniel Quinn's Ishmael or My Ishmael? There are takers and givers, it's always cool to see theories in practicum... the people who live as one with the earth coexist as one with nature...

Kill your Television (even though I just got a chunky 32" Sony Flatscreen HD ready, I don't got cable though, good for PBS news and DVD's)... Fry's is the iShhhh 54 bucks a month for the next 18 months with no interest same as cash, now that's a deal.

I wish more people would get sick from getting their picture taken (i.e G-dubya and his admin)
 
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Anyone ever read Daniel Quinn's Ishmael or My Ishmael? There are takers and givers, it's always cool to see theories in practicum... the people who live as one with the earth coexist as one with nature...
ive read it. The book your talking about is Ishmael. I read it awhile back I forget most of it. However I do remember the takers and givers theory which is highlighted in Genisis. This is the same book where that guy talks to the Gorilla.

Good book.
 
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2-0-Sixx said:
Relax. You should be more concerned about WHO you donated your money too than a tiny little tribe that consists of about 300 or so people.

NOTE: No where in the article did it say they were shooting arrows at helicoptors are hostile to outsiders, it simply states they prefer to be left alone.

Relax, whose worked up? This is what I am talking about:
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Tribe shoots arrows at aid flight
By Jonathan Charles
BBC News, Andaman Islands


An Indian helicopter dropping food and water over the remote Andaman and Nicobar Islands has been attacked by tribesmen using bows and arrows.
There were fears that the endangered tribal groups had been wiped out when massive waves struck their islands.

But the authorities say the attack is a sign that they have survived.

More than 6,000 people there are confirmed as either dead or missing, but thousands of others are still unaccounted for.

The Indian coastguard helicopter was flying low over Sentinel Island to drop aid when it came under attack.

A senior police officer said the crew were not hurt and the authorities are taking it as a sign that the tribes have not been wiped out by the earthquake and sea surges as many had feared.

The Andaman and Nicobar archipelago is home to several tribes, some extremely isolated.

Officials believe they survived the devastation by using age-old early warning systems.

They might have run to high ground for safety after noticing changes in the behaviour of birds and marine wildlife.

Scientists are examining the possibility to see whether it can be used to predict earth tremors in future.


Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/...sia/4144405.stm

Published: 2005/01/04 03:10:57 GMT