Someone tried to hit a Liq for the beezy... Gun battle ensue's 50-100 shots

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http://www.king5.com/news/local/Armed-robbery-shooting-on-Key-Peninsula-104545639.html

I never heard of Lake bay WA but....

LAKEBAY, Wash. – An attempted invasion robbery at a home on Key Peninsula that housed a large marijuana grow operation turned into a gun battle between the owner and the robbers Thursday night. One robber is dead, at least two other people are wounded and as many as four people may be on the run in the neighborhood.
It happened around 8:30 p.m. near Tiedman Road and Herron Road in Lakebay. Pierce County Sheriff's Department spokesman Detective Ed Troyer says there is a "substantial" marijuana grow operation in the home.
Troyer says as many as seven people may have been involved in the invasion. Two suspects and the homeowner were shot. One of the suspect died at the scene. The alleged getaway driver and the homeowner were wounded. Their conditions were not immediately known.
Troyer says handguns and shotguns were used and there are 50 to 100 rounds of spent ammunition at the scene.
Another three to four suspects are on the loose. Some of them may be armed. They may also be wounded. Troyer says the sheriff's department received phone calls from other locations from suspects claiming to have been shot.
People in the neighborhood are being urged to stay inside, lock their doors and not answer the door.
"This is unbelievable," said neighbor Diana McGee. "It could be the neighbor kids. I'm not sure which house it is, but it's our road."
A woman at a nearby gas station said she heard as many as 15 gunshots.
Deputies have closed off Tiedman Road at Herron Road. The Washington State Patrol says it is assisting the sheriff's department.
Stay with KING 5 News for the latest on this developing story.
KING 5's Chris Daniels and Drew Mikkelsen contributed to this report.
 
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so they said "substantial" grow operation, so im guessing it will be a felony amount no matter if hes legal or not.

could being in this grow house and shooting at and killing would-be robbers be murder during the commission of a felony, i.e. the death penalty?


i dont see the homeowner getting out of this on self-defense
 
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so they said "substantial" grow operation, so im guessing it will be a felony amount no matter if hes legal or not.

could being in this grow house and shooting at and killing would-be robbers be murder during the commission of a felony, i.e. the death penalty?


i dont see the homeowner getting out of this on self-defense
Ya man having pistol at a grow operation is another big charge much less using it. Owell dog held court a bunch of cats came through with heat an he held court. All involve are fucked...I just wish I knew where his savings as hid lol
 
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this is not a good look for marijuana up here man. goody-two-shoes people dont like weed cause they think crime comes with it, and this kind of proves it. doesnt matter how you argue it, There was a shootout and someone died because of weed. all the facts will be ignored, shit, this guy is already looking like a criminal with just tihs little article.

theres so much weed up here anyways i doubt this will even effect anything
 

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we got the same problems in cali

in fresno theres been multiple weed op robberies and home invasions, they put a hold or sum shit like that on permits and other shit for a while after that happen

being i live in tulare county and they always kiss ass to fresno county, i foresee many people using these latest string of crimes to tie it in wit MM and MM patients and make us look like a bunch of drug smokin, gun tootin wild west retards

fuck it, grow spots need armed guards, this means more jobs for folks that dont have sumthing legit to wake up to...ive done it, so i dont see why others wouldnt, its great fuckin money
 
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this is not a good look for marijuana up here man. goody-two-shoes people dont like weed cause they think crime comes with it, and this kind of proves it. doesnt matter how you argue it, There was a shootout and someone died because of money. all the facts will be ignored, shit, this guy is already looking like a criminal with just tihs little article.

theres so much weed up here anyways i doubt this will even effect anything
That would be the real reason of the shootout I would guess.
Although it's going to be blamed on marijuana yes.
 
Aug 24, 2003
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so when someone dies during the commission of a felony its the death penalty, example if you rob someone for their purse and then shoot them in the face and kill them its the death penalty. if someone else is with you robbing the purse, they get the death penalty too even if they didnt shoot. all the invaders were wearing camouflage so its obvious they were in it together and had a plan to commit an orchestrated robbery, and one of their own was killed. are they still responsible for murder even though it was one of their own? cause if so theres going to be a lot of people up for capital murder... maybe even the homeowner...


at least 8 lives completely down the drain... if weed was legal up here this would not have happened
 

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the way the death penalty is applied is confusing

its based on meeting a few standards

and then once they can meet the standard, they have to choose if they wanna go for the death penalty or just get the L

i believe for the death penalty they have to get an indictment from the jury, but im not sure so dont qoute me (that might just be federal)

but to answer your question, commiting murder in the commission of a felony is one charge which can carry the death penalty

edit: whats WA stance on "a man if the king of his castle" law?

the homeowner would get off if that law was applied in the state...
 
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all the invaders were wearing camouflage so its obvious they were in it together and had a plan to commit an orchestrated robbery, and one of their own was killed. are they still responsible for murder even though it was one of their own?

according to the first 48 in most states they are responsible, imagine going to jail for a buddys murder when all you thought the night was going to end in was a nice lick and a fat come up...

dude got what he deserved...grow your own pot if you want to be in the business..quit STEALING other poeples lively hoods, america should chop the hands/fingers off thiefs at an early age...you want that new i-pod from walmart without paying for it?...hopefully no hands was worth it......
 
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this is not a good look for marijuana up here man. goody-two-shoes people dont like weed cause they think crime comes with it, and this kind of proves it. doesnt matter how you argue it, There was a shootout and someone died because of weed. all the facts will be ignored, shit, this guy is already looking like a criminal with just tihs little article.

theres so much weed up here anyways i doubt this will even effect anything
Well, when a substance is ILLEGAL, of course crime comes with it. They same thing would have happened if liquor were still illegal. It has nothing to do with the substance at hand, but the implications behind it.

If anything, this should DRIVE the "make pot LEGAL" campaign. If that were the case, this may have been avoided all together.
 

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No on prop 19!

I agree tho, the average non smoking citizen assumes violent crime goes hand in hand with drugs, and this kind of bullshit supports that notion
 
Aug 24, 2003
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edit: whats WA stance on "a man if the king of his castle" law?

the homeowner would get off if that law was applied in the state...

Washington

The statute in Washington state appears to be very simply and broadly stated.[20]

The law allows use of deadly force in the lawful defense of oneself, a family member, or any other person, when there is reasonable ground to prevent action(s) of the person slain to commit a felony or to do injury or harm, and there is imminent danger of such design being accomplished; or in the actual resistance of an attempt to commit a felony upon the slayer, on those in their presence, or upon or in a dwelling, or other place of abode, in which they are.

Washington state doesn’t have a specific Castle Doctrine law, but has no duty to retreat as precedent was set when the State Supreme Court found "that there is no duty to retreat when a person is assaulted in a place where he or she has a right to be."[21][22]




RCW 9A.16.050Homicide — By other person — When justifiable. Homicide is also justifiable when committed either:

(1) In the lawful defense of the slayer, or his or her husband, wife, parent, child, brother, or sister, or of any other person in his presence or company, when there is reasonable ground to apprehend a design on the part of the person slain to commit a felony or to do some great personal injury to the slayer or to any such person, and there is imminent danger of such design being accomplished; or (2) In the actual resistance of an attempt to commit a felony upon the slayer, in his presence, or upon or in a dwelling, or other place of abode, in which he is.

In addition, case law in Washington has stated:

It is lawful for a person who is in a place where that person has a right to be and who has reasonable grounds for believing that he is being attacked to stand his ground and defend against such attack by use of lawful force. The law does not impose a duty to retreat.

State v. Prado, Washington Court of Appeals
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so now theres a question of is his house legally looked at as his abode he lawfully defended, or does the law see it as he was unlawfully defending the site of an illegal operation
 
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we got the same problems in cali

fuck it, grow spots need armed guards,
THE GROW SPOTS ALL OVER CALI DO HAVE ARMED GUARDS...
ITS JUST THEY WORK FOR MEXICAN CARTELS.

ALSO: IF YOU KILL SOMEONE WHILE COMMITTING A FELONY YOURSELF I DONT THINK THE SELF DEFENSE CARD WORKS IN A COURT OF LAW. AS FAR AS MURDER GOES.. THEY USUALLY GET YOU TO PLEA TO A LESSER CHARGE
 

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yeah i saw this shit on the news last night....one of the dudes died and they said at that time they had picked up 40 shell casings...that was around 7 or 8 last night i think. sorry but if you got a grow-op you better be fucking smart about it. don't bring lights from the store to that place...move them around...i know cats that do shit like that only they don't kill mutha fuckas...they just hog tie them. lol
 
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Well, when a substance is ILLEGAL, of course crime comes with it. They same thing would have happened if liquor were still illegal. It has nothing to do with the substance at hand, but the implications behind it.

If anything, this should DRIVE the "make pot LEGAL" campaign. If that were the case, this may have been avoided all together.
that was exactly my defense the other day wen i was talkin to my friends mom about prop 19... wen liquor and tabacco was illegal u had shit like the st.valentines day massacre (if im remembering correct) now adays u dont hear about ppl shootin ppl for a pack of cigs or for a beer!