Some Real Scientists Reject Evolution
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M-theory was proposed because there were very good mathematical reasons to think strings exist; the M-theory finds the connection between the 5 different possible string theories
Brane cosmology follows from the M-theory, it was not the motivation behind it.
Stop lying!
The chance of molecules amalgamating into a human are infinitesimally small. What you forget to mention is that nobody claims this happened. Molecules "amalgamated" into short self-replicating RNAs which is not at all that impossible and is actually doable in lab conditions.
From that point evolution proceeded to produce humans and it is a demonstration of an extreme stupidity and arrogance to claim humans are on the top of the "evolutionary ladder" when such a thing doesn't even exist as I explained above.
Stop lying!
Irreducible complexity is what doesn't make sense because it has been thoroughly refuted every time it was brought to the table and it is nothing more but an argument from ignorance.
Random genetic variation allowed life to survive past its infantile stages because selection removed the bad variation and only kept the good. It's not that hard to understand.
Stop lying and being an ignorant dumbfuck!
What does the connection between mass and energy have to do with brain activity when converting even a small amount of mass into energy is enough to make you evaporate completely and when all brain activity is clearly based on cellular and molecular mechanisms?
There is no evidence supporting the creator and there is plenty of evidence we made it up...
Stop lying!
Brane cosmology follows from the M-theory, it was not the motivation behind it.
Stop lying!
The chance of molecules amalgamating into a human are infinitesimally small. What you forget to mention is that nobody claims this happened. Molecules "amalgamated" into short self-replicating RNAs which is not at all that impossible and is actually doable in lab conditions.
From that point evolution proceeded to produce humans and it is a demonstration of an extreme stupidity and arrogance to claim humans are on the top of the "evolutionary ladder" when such a thing doesn't even exist as I explained above.
Stop lying!
Irreducible complexity is what doesn't make sense because it has been thoroughly refuted every time it was brought to the table and it is nothing more but an argument from ignorance.
Random genetic variation allowed life to survive past its infantile stages because selection removed the bad variation and only kept the good. It's not that hard to understand.
Stop lying and being an ignorant dumbfuck!
What does the connection between mass and energy have to do with brain activity when converting even a small amount of mass into energy is enough to make you evaporate completely and when all brain activity is clearly based on cellular and molecular mechanisms?
There is no evidence supporting the creator and there is plenty of evidence we made it up...
Stop lying!
thag you are one dumb mother fucker.
the only reasonw why you can never attempt to understand anything we say is because you lack imagination.
to you life lived is life thought.
*sigh*
skimming through tho you said "our mind isnt electrical"
reread what i said because i stated our CONSCIOUSNESS is electrical.
you know when you sleep? the electricity dims down but doesnt go away like when we die.
i aint read your reply because i already know what it will say and i dont feel like wasting my morning on your little hardcore scientist wannabe self.
science is nothing without imagination, too bad your understanding cannot go beyong the physical.
wise up
the only reasonw why you can never attempt to understand anything we say is because you lack imagination.
to you life lived is life thought.
*sigh*
skimming through tho you said "our mind isnt electrical"
reread what i said because i stated our CONSCIOUSNESS is electrical.
you know when you sleep? the electricity dims down but doesnt go away like when we die.
i aint read your reply because i already know what it will say and i dont feel like wasting my morning on your little hardcore scientist wannabe self.
science is nothing without imagination, too bad your understanding cannot go beyong the physical.
wise up
Stop lying? Stop trying to touch on things you have absolutely no idea about. There are indeed mathematical calculations which allow for the existence of strings(which I never denied the evidence for), but the theory is tangled with multi-verses, spontaneous bubbles popping in and out of existence, a plethora or different dimensions, undetectable particles such as gravitons(which no one has ever demonstrated as existing), and the Membrane its self is completely hypothetical. There is no basis for this other than the fact that we're able to present Mathematically what is allowed that coincides with people's imagination. Most scientists don't even involve themselves with string theory because of the strong criticisms it receives due to the lack of observation that can be connected to the theory.
Quoting theoretical Physicist, Philip Anderson:
Quoting Physicist Sheldon Glashow:
Quoting award winning Physicist Lawrence Krauss:
Also see Peter Woit's article, " Is String Theory Even Wrong?":
http://www.americanscientist.org/template/AssetDetail/assetid/18638
And see this blog page from John Baez:
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/week246.html
^Now please do not make yourself look so hopelessly ignorant again by trying to defend a theory you know absolutely nothing about, that is actually on the brink of being totally discarded. Thank you..
Deceiver, you ignore the fact that it was in a controlled setting/lab(men did it, not nature) and that even then, they were unable to create self-replicating "life".
From what point?
I never lie..
These aren't "arguments from ignorance" actually, these are arguments from Michael Behe and others..(See Irreducible Complexity is an Obstacle to Darwinism Even if Parts of a System have other Functions: A Response to Sharon Begley’s Wall Street Journal Column ) ...
Who are you?
^^What removed the bad variance? Haha, you dumb ass, selection only works if the species doesn't get wiped out and if there is enough of them to select from, you obviously misunderstood as you always do. You're simply assuming that it's a given that the first assemblages of life somehow survived on its own to keep producing offspring(subsequently allowing selection), which is very improbable even if you consider that life was even able to assemble its self in the first place! You have no answers.
^Straw man.. No one mentioned anything about the brain, or mass crashing into me to create energy, you're an unlearned troll.
There is no evidence that doesn't support an ultimate creator and there is plenty of evidence the he/she/it isn't made up(mocking you to show that this argument has no substance and anyone can use it)..
Stop lying!
Quoting theoretical Physicist, Philip Anderson:
Quoting Physicist Sheldon Glashow:
Quoting award winning Physicist Lawrence Krauss:
Also see Peter Woit's article, " Is String Theory Even Wrong?":
http://www.americanscientist.org/template/AssetDetail/assetid/18638
And see this blog page from John Baez:
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/week246.html
^Now please do not make yourself look so hopelessly ignorant again by trying to defend a theory you know absolutely nothing about, that is actually on the brink of being totally discarded. Thank you..
Deceiver, you ignore the fact that it was in a controlled setting/lab(men did it, not nature) and that even then, they were unable to create self-replicating "life".
From what point?
I never lie..
These aren't "arguments from ignorance" actually, these are arguments from Michael Behe and others..(See Irreducible Complexity is an Obstacle to Darwinism Even if Parts of a System have other Functions: A Response to Sharon Begley’s Wall Street Journal Column ) ...
Who are you?
^^What removed the bad variance? Haha, you dumb ass, selection only works if the species doesn't get wiped out and if there is enough of them to select from, you obviously misunderstood as you always do. You're simply assuming that it's a given that the first assemblages of life somehow survived on its own to keep producing offspring(subsequently allowing selection), which is very improbable even if you consider that life was even able to assemble its self in the first place! You have no answers.
^Straw man.. No one mentioned anything about the brain, or mass crashing into me to create energy, you're an unlearned troll.
There is no evidence that doesn't support an ultimate creator and there is plenty of evidence the he/she/it isn't made up(mocking you to show that this argument has no substance and anyone can use it)..
Stop lying!
The funny thing is, NO ONE will every win this argument, becuase each side (science vs. religion) feel that they are RIGHT...so why even bother? If you believe in religion and a creator....guess what...YOURE RIGHT. If you believe n evolution, then guess what...YOU ARE RIGHT.
Can we talk about something that isnt based on opinion?
Can we talk about something that isnt based on opinion?
yeah, you're right what was i thinking.....ill just pretend some supernatural entitity created something as complex as human life, or whatever else my vivid imagination can dream up....in fact scratch that i think it must have been a giant 1,000 ft lizard with all knowing powers.......wait no.....new idea coming......i am now a believer in the flying spagetti monster......thats who made the the universe and the earth......im sure of it now because i imagined it.....now prove im wrong......im right because i imagined it.....its up to you now to prove me wrong....flying spagetti monster for the win...
this is a PERFECT example of how Belief sets Perception.
see by saying what you stated, i can see you have no idea to what extent imagination occurs.
your perception conditioned you to automatically take this arguement of Imagination, and turn it into imagination of a fake God.
real imagination is the ability to precieve what is unknown, and the ability to know in what direction you should go to achieve such a thing.
be open minded, well in fact, the next time you smokin a blunt, id like you to think about what im sayin.
Whats so crazy about the flying spagetti monster? its not any crazier then believing in god... oh ya if you didnt catch this... that was the point..
See above.
See above. You're asking me to use my imagination to believe in god....sorry thats not how i come to form my belief system. Logic, Reason, and evidence are far greater then imagination.
imagination can be used many many ways, not just one. You may use your imagination to problem solve or explore what you would consider the unknown, however you can also use your imagination to come up with things that have no real possibility of ever happening in the real world.
Dude im open minded, but i also know what i believe, just because i give something a chance doesnt mean that i change my mind on it if it doesnt make sense to me..
See above.
See above. You're asking me to use my imagination to believe in god....sorry thats not how i come to form my belief system. Logic, Reason, and evidence are far greater then imagination.
imagination can be used many many ways, not just one. You may use your imagination to problem solve or explore what you would consider the unknown, however you can also use your imagination to come up with things that have no real possibility of ever happening in the real world.
Dude im open minded, but i also know what i believe, just because i give something a chance doesnt mean that i change my mind on it if it doesnt make sense to me..