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May 2, 2002
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THIS HAPPENED A WHILE BACK...SENT THE PIGS INTO PANIC AFTER THIS WENT DOWN...I GOT PULLED OVER AND HARRASED LIKE A MOTHERFUCK AFTER THIS SHIT WENT DOWN...I KNOW THE FOOL...I KNEW HIS OLDER COUSIN...WHO WAS A FUCKIN CYCO!!! I FIGURED THIS FOOL WOULD DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS....THE REASON I POSTED IT WAS TO SHOW YALL HOW THE COPS AND PRESS TRY TO HIDE SHIT AND MAKE SOME SITUATIONS SEEM ONE SIDED!!

2 men tell how they caught gunman
Hearing continues today in Fremont
By ROBERT AIROLDI
STAFF WRITER

FREMONT -- Two men who witnessed the gang-related killing of a Fremont man said in court Monday that they followed the gunman, pushed him to the ground and held him until police arrived.
Timothy Galvan and Fidel Torres -- described by a deputy district attorney as members of the Norteos gang -- are charged with killing Jose Mendoza, 31, with a blast from a sawed-off shotgun Jan. 4.

The charges include gang enhancements, which could carry the death penalty.

Mendoza's brother, Adalberto Mendoza, and family friend, Jose Becerra Carranza, testified through an interpreter during Monday's hearing -- held to determine if there is enough evidence to hold the two men for trial.

The hearing, at the Fremont Hall of Justice, is scheduled to resume today.

Both identified Galvan as the shooter.

Mendoza said he saw Galvan wearing a red bandanna over his face, approach the open garage of the Mendoza home on Viola Court at 9 p.m. Red is the color of the Norteos gang. He was three or four steps from Jose Mendoza when he yelled "puro norte" (pure north), then fired one shot, hitting Mendoza in the right side of the chest. The man then turned the gun toward Carranza and another friend, and fired again, barely missing them, the witnesses said.

Then Adalberto Mendoza chased Galvan, catching him near the sidewalk.

"I pushed him and he fell to his knees and I grabbed him from behind so he couldn't shoot me," he said. "Then I grabbed both arms and laid on top of him."

During the struggle, Carranza held Galvan's feet while the other friend grabbed the gun.

Mendoza said he saw Galvan, slightly injured in the struggle, being loaded into an ambulance, no longer wearing the bandanna.

About 20 minutes before the shooting, two vehicles pulled up in front of the Mendoza home in the Cabrillo area, where the Mendozas and two friends were playing pool.

None of those men are gang members, Deputy District Attorney Joe Eichhorn said.

At least one man got out of the first vehicle, discovered later to have been stolen, and got in a second vehicle. As it sped away, the occupants yelled gang slurs toward the home.

A vehicle returned 20 minutes later and the shooting started.

After he shot Jose Mendoza, "he fired toward where I was and I dropped to the floor," Carranza said.

Mendoza and his family are from Mexico and living legally in the United States, Eichhorn said. The four men worked in construction.

He described Mendoza, who left behind a wife and 2-year-old child, as a "hard-working Fremont man not affiliated with gangs."

Norteos are born in the United States and consider Mexican nationals a Sureo, or enemy.
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FIRST OF ALL...OF COURSE, EVERY TIME SOME SHIT GOES DOWN THEY FAIL TO LET THE PUBLIC KNOW THAT IT WAS OVER REAL GANG RETALIATION...THEY WANT EVERYONE TO THINK THAT FOOLS ARE JUST BANGIN ON MEXICANS CAUSE THEY ARE ILLEGALS OR SOME SHIT...IT'S LIKE THIS EVERYTIME SOMETHING GOES DOWN AROUND HERE...

I'M A TELL IT LIKE IT REALLY WAS....SOME SURENO FOOLS MOVED INTO A PAD IN THE NORTH FREMONT CABRILLO AREA AND WERE TRYIN TO RIDE THAT TRECE SHIT FOR A MINUTE....HOMEBOY WAS WALKIN BY AND THEM FOOLS RAN UP OUT THE GARAGE AND TRIED TO JUMP HIM...I THINK THEY ACTUALLY DID LAY SOME HANDS ON HIM....HE WENT AND GOT SOME OTHER HOMEBOYS AND WENT BACK.....TALKED SOME SHIT...THEN CAME BACK AND DID WHAT HE FELT HE HAD TO DO...I AIN'T JUSTIFYIN SHIT, I THINK IT WAS PRETTY STUPID HOW HE WENT ABOUT DOIN IT BUT YA KNOW HOW THINGS GO...I JUST HATE WHEN THEY PRINT BULLSHIT LIKE THIS...THEY ALWAYS TRYIN TO MAKE IT LIKE NORTENOS ARE JUST TAKING OUT ILLEGAL MEXICANOS FOR NO REASON....WHEN IT AIN'T EVEN LIKE THAT...
 
May 2, 2002
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AND THEN I READ THIS THE VERY NEXT DAY I READ THE OTHER ARTICLE......WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO LOYALTY IN THIS SHIT...IT FIGURES THOUGH...SHIT LIKE THIS IS WHY I DON'T KICK IT WITH TOO MANY MOTHERFUCKAS...YOU JUST NEVER KNOW!!!! BUT NOTICE NOW HOW THE SURENO CONNECTION COMES INTO PLAY...HMMMM

Gang member testifies in murder case
Santa Rita inmate
By Rob Dennis
STAFF WRITER

FREMONT -- A gang member testified in court Tuesday that a fellow gang member drove the intended getaway car in the killing of a Fremont man in January.
Alex Apodaca, a member of the Norteos gang in custody on charges of robbery and mayhem in a separate case, testified as part of a plea agreement that would guarantee him no more than three years in prison.

His testimony came during the second day of a hearing to determine if there is enough evidence to send Timothy Galvan and Fidel Torres to trial on charges of murdering 31-year-old Jose Mendoza. He was killed Jan. 4 with a blast from a sawed-off shotgun.

The pair -- described by a deputy district attorney as members of the Norteos gang -- could face the death penalty because of the gang connection.

Apodaca, 20, is being held at Santa Rita county jail for the two felonies. Although he was a member of the same gang as Torres, they didn't spend much time together, Apodaca said.

"We were homeboys," he said. "We weren't friends. We weren't close."

He said Torres admitted during a conversation with Apodaca and other gang members that he drove Timothy Galvan to the house on Viola Court and waited for him around the corner for about a half-hour.

Three men who were playing pool with Mendoza in the garage when he was killed said they caught Galvan as he tried to flee the scene.

Apodaca said Torres' remarks stuck in his mind because gang members thought he should have gone to help Galvan.

Also on Tuesday, one of the three men with Mendoza when he was killed, Jaime Gutierres, said through an interpreter that he heard Mendoza curse somebody outside the garage.

Some time later, about 9 p.m., a man wearing a red bandanna over his face approached the open garage door, yelled "puro norte" (pure north) and fired one shot, hitting Mendoza in the right side of his chest.

The gunman then turned the gun on the other men and fired again but didn't hit anyone.

Gutierres described how he then helped Mendoza's brother, Adalberto Mendoza, and family friend Jose Carranza chase Galvan, catch him and wrestle the gun away.

"I hit him on the head with it and then I threw it away, in the direction of the garden," Gutierres said.

Gutierres then called police, he said.

Galvan's attorney, Thomas Broome, asked Gutierres if he remembered Jose Mendoza yelling "puro sur " (pure south) before he was shot. Gutierres said he didn't.

Broome then asked him if he remembered telling police that in a statement. Gutierres said he didn't.

Norteos are born in the United States and consider members of the rival Mexican Sureo gang their enemies.

But Fremont police Officer Russel Schatzinger, a former member of the Southern Alameda County Gang Task Force, said Norteos will also target Mexican immigrants with no Sureo affiliation.

Deputy District Attorney Joe Eichhorn has said none of the four men are gang members.

Broome questioned this, however, asking Schatzinger if a reference to Sureo in Jose Mendoza's phone book and his shout of "puro sur " might indicate gang involvement.

"Possibly," Schatzinger said.
 
May 21, 2002
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hold up

man these fuckers just print anything to make the story sound good....they got the game wrong....nortenos dont target mexican immigrants....man this is some bullshit the press does, it's just gonna cause more uprising because of their weak azz knowledge on what they are writing....they need to get someone who knows in perspective about this gang shit...this shit makes me mad
 
Aug 6, 2002
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I feel you oso around here the stupid newspapers always write that nortenos kill mexican nationals but never write how they were wearing blue and had dirteen tattoed on their arm. also they always write some bullshit that bullfrogs belong norte and how scraps are merly a way of immagrants protecting themselves. Like i said to me I dont target my hate to immagrants I hate any one who promotes sur or dirteen. And anyone from the 559 especially fresno county knows that MAGEC (multi agency gang enforcement) dont know shit about gangs and they always try to pin everything on the wrong person and they are always quoting some bullshit in the papers
 
Jul 21, 2002
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i don't know if y'all seen that movie full metal jacket or not, but there is this one part where the dood joker writes a column in the marines newpaper that was going back to america from vietnam and he reports that no one was killed although there was alot of gunfire, and his liutenant tells him to change the story and say 2 people got killed so people will be interested in the story, otherwise don't print it. That is what it looks like is goin down here, they prolly left out that the dood that got blasted did have dirteen tats on him and he prolly did say some puro sur shit and then got dealt with. it is way fukked up but that's what the public wants to hear, that this shit is senseless and pre meditated. i am not saying i agree with what went down, cause i honestly don't dig when simple words turn into murder but this is some bullshit from the press once again. And another big thing, what the fukk is up with the one dood that was a norteno plea bargaining and testifyin? that fool is just gonna get it when he gets lokked up, what, does he think that no one will have heard of his rat ass, i agree with oso, that's why trust takes a minute to be gained, a cold fukkin minute "beware of those"
 
Apr 25, 2002
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they were juzt trying to make NORTENOZ look bad TJ.

and wutz with them spelling it "Norteos" LoL fuckin moronz. remyndz me of thiz tyme i actually attempted to walk to tha store with a homeboy, and we got stopped by a pig. he saw my mongolian (which i had to cut bcuz of thoze fuckin pigz) and azked "Are you a Norteno or wut?" i said yea, and he profiled me. he kept insisting he knew everything about us, then when it came to filling in tha Affiliation part, he azked "How do you spell Norteno?" i wuz lyke WUT THA FUCK! he claimed to know everything and told me not to bullshyt him, but he couldnt even SPEILL IT!?