So, who thinks file-sharing is stealing?

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Apr 25, 2002
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How can it be stealing? It's file SHARING. Its not like Im going to a store and ripping it off, and its not like Im bootleggin these songs for profit. Its me and a bunch of other people swapping songs, pics, documents. Is swapping stealing? I trade and share shit with my friends all the time. Is it only considered "stealing" because its on an anonomous level? Or is it because its on a wider level? Ive always dubbed shit, taped off the radio and all that. Ive also paid for overpriced music for all these years to these big ass record companies, and they have the nerve to say IM ripping them off? They mad cause instaed of making 900 Million dollars a year, they only making 750 million a year. Boo Fucking Hoo. That 900 Million was the most the RIAA has ever made in one year back in 2000. Thats the year when Napster was the most popular thing on the net. So whats the deal blaming file sharing for thier finnacial woes. Its deeper than that.

Thats my argument, and Im sticking to it.
 
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Music is intellectual property which is for sale. Filesharing is stealing that property.

I download mp3s constantly, but I'm not gonna sit here and give excuses. I know it's wrong and I'll continue to do it.
 
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hell naw.. that like sayin that makin a dub tape for someone is theft. Which supposedely is also illegal. Fuck em. cos what happens if intellectual property was with minimal distribution/ out of print. The only way to get it is thru file sharing.

just say you burned the file from a USED cd... lol. no one cares bout used cds....

legal or illegal i will continue to do so. this subject does make me angry.

its not like i've downloaded it to profiteer from it.

also, i heard they sued a little girl for downloadin Christina Aguilera and nursery Rhymes??
 
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^^ Hey moron. People MAKE songs, they don't just appear out of thin air. Whoever MAKES a song owns it, and if they don't want you downloading it for free, you are bound by law to respect their wishes.

Whether or not you break the law is up to you.
 
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NOSTRIL KING said:
Filesharing is stealing that property.
Isnt that kind of contradictory though? Sharing is stealing? How so? The music was paid for somewhere. And just because I have accees to it, is that stealing?
 
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MeloTrauma said:
They mad cause instaed of making 900 Million dollars a year, they only making 750 million a year. Boo Fucking Hoo. That 900 Million was the most the RIAA has ever made in one year back in 2000. Thats the year when Napster was the most popular thing on the net. So whats the deal blaming file sharing for thier finnacial woes. Its deeper than that.
That's a good point. Too many people in this world are over paid and under worked. It's like, if you bust your ass, break your back and sweat blood, you get rock bottom pay. Meanwhile, if you become famous, you have everyone in the world love you and cherish something so small such as a signature on a peice of paper, and get damn near any girl you desire, then you get millions. I have little sympothy for the greedy.

It's wrong, but so is the wage ratio between construction workers and "singers".
 
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^^ I thought you were a fucking capitalist? You're starting to sound like 20dicx and faggot ass nefar. If a deregulated free market economy dictated that a street bum gets paid $800,000 a year and that an MD gets paid 4 bucks an hour - it's still based on what society wants and how much it is willing to pay for it. How can you call that wrong? Supply and demand is this country's foundation.
 
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MeloTrauma said:
Isnt that kind of contradictory though? Sharing is stealing? How so? The music was paid for somewhere. And just because I have accees to it, is that stealing?
I have taken a few business law classes, and it talked about this quite frequently in one of them. When you buy copyrighted material, you are purchasing a license. This license comes with a number of distributions that you can make. For instance, a school will purchase Microsoft Windows XP (1 copy) with a license allowing them to distribute it to X amount of computers on their campus. I believe when you purchase a music cd you are allowed 2 licenses.

As far as "sharing", I would have to believe that doing so would consist of lending that CD to someone else and not dubbing it (copyright infringement).
 
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NOSTRIL KING said:
^^ I thought you were a fucking capitalist? You're starting to sound like 20dicx and faggot ass nefar. If a deregulated free market economy dictated that a street bum gets paid $800,000 a year and that an MD gets paid 4 bucks an hour - it's still based on what society wants and how much it is willing to pay for it. How can you call that wrong? Supply and demand is this country's foundation.
It is just a general observation. Construction employees work harder building the houses these musicians piss in, then these artists will in their lifetime, yet the wage ratio is horrible.

Im calling it wrong from a moral standpoint. Who is doing the most to fulfill this country's supply and demand? Artists who create a music cd (material) or construction workers building homes (necessity).