that was the joke of 1999 and well he's still a joke but the production is actually good on it. his rapping ain't anything special but so are a bunch of big names out there these days that are selling. i heard this dude produced some cuts for lil flip, that true? dude should stick to producing then rapping. i don't think anyone will ever take him serious, kinna like when people see jackie chain and be all like "what in fuck"