So fucked up... Military hides cause of womens deaths

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http://www.truthout.org/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi/57/17327



In a startling revelation, the former commander of Abu Ghraib prison testified that Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez, former senior US military commander in Iraq, gave orders to cover up the cause of death for some female American soldiers serving in Iraq.

Last week, Col. Janis Karpinski told a panel of judges at the Commission of Inquiry for Crimes against Humanity Committed by the Bush Administration in New York that several women had died of dehydration because they refused to drink liquids late in the day. They were afraid of being assaulted or even raped by male soldiers if they had to use the women's latrine after dark.

The latrine for female soldiers at Camp Victory wasn't located near their barracks, so they had to go outside if they needed to use the bathroom. "There were no lights near any of their facilities, so women were doubly easy targets in the dark of the night," Karpinski told retired US Army Col. David Hackworth in a September 2004 interview. It was there that male soldiers assaulted and raped women soldiers. So the women took matters into their own hands. They didn't drink in the late afternoon so they wouldn't have to urinate at night. They didn't get raped. But some died of dehydration in the desert heat, Karpinski said.

Karpinski testified that a surgeon for the coalition's joint task force said in a briefing that "women in fear of getting up in the hours of darkness to go out to the port-a-lets or the latrines were not drinking liquids after 3 or 4 in the afternoon, and in 120 degree heat or warmer, because there was no air-conditioning at most of the facilities, they were dying from dehydration in their sleep."

"And rather than make everybody aware of that - because that's shocking, and as a leader if that's not shocking to you then you're not much of a leader - what they told the surgeon to do is don't brief those details anymore. And don't say specifically that they're women. You can provide that in a written report but don't brief it in the open anymore."

For example, Maj. Gen. Walter Wojdakowski, Sanchez's top deputy in Iraq, saw "dehydration" listed as the cause of death on the death certificate of a female master sergeant in September 2003. Under orders from Sanchez, he directed that the cause of death no longer be listed, Karpinski stated. The official explanation for this was to protect the women's privacy rights.

Sanchez's attitude was: "The women asked to be here, so now let them take what comes with the territory," Karpinski quoted him as saying. Karpinski told me that Sanchez, who was her boss, was very sensitive to the political ramifications of everything he did. She thinks it likely that when the information about the cause of these women's deaths was passed to the Pentagon, Donald Rumsfeld ordered that the details not be released. "That's how Rumsfeld works," she said.

"It was out of control," Karpinski told a group of students at Thomas Jefferson School of Law last October. There was an 800 number women could use to report sexual assaults. But no one had a phone, she added. And no one answered that number, which was based in the United States. Any woman who successfully connected to it would get a recording. Even after more than 83 incidents were reported during a six-month period in Iraq and Kuwait, the 24-hour rape hot line was still answered by a machine that told callers to leave a message.

"There were countless such situations all over the theater of operations - Iraq and Kuwait - because female soldiers didn't have a voice, individually or collectively," Karpinski told Hackworth. "Even as a general I didn't have a voice with Sanchez, so I know what the soldiers were facing. Sanchez did not want to hear about female soldier requirements and/or issues."

Karpinski was the highest officer reprimanded for the Abu Ghraib torture scandal, although the details of interrogations were carefully hidden from her. Demoted from Brigadier General to Colonel, Karpinski feels she was chosen as a scapegoat because she was a female.

Sexual assault in the US military has become a hot topic in the last few years, "not just because of the high number of rapes and other assaults, but also because of the tendency to cover up assaults and to harass or retaliate against women who report assaults," according to Kathy Gilberd, co-chair of the National Lawyers Guild's Military Law Task Force.

This problem has become so acute that the Army has set up its own sexual assault web site.

In February 2004, Rumsfeld directed the Under Secretary of Defense for Personnel and Readiness to undertake a 90-day review of sexual assault policies. "Sexual assault will not be tolerated in the Department of Defense," Rumsfeld declared.

The 99-page report was issued in April 2004. It affirmed, "The chain of command is responsible for ensuring that policies and practices regarding crime prevention and security are in place for the safety of service members." The rates of reported alleged sexual assault were 69.1 and 70.0 per 100,000 uniformed service members in 2002 and 2003. Yet those rates were not directly comparable to rates reported by the Department of Justice, due to substantial differences in the definition of sexual assault.

Notably, the report found that low sociocultural power (i.e., age, education, race/ethnicity, marital status) and low organizational power (i.e., pay grade and years of active duty service) were associated with an increased likelihood of both sexual assault and sexual harassment.

The Department of Defense announced a new policy on sexual assault prevention and response on January 3, 2005. It was a reaction to media reports and public outrage about sexual assaults against women in the US military in Iraq and Afghanistan, and ongoing sexual assaults and cover-ups at the Air Force Academy in Colorado, Gilberd said. As a result, Congress demanded that the military review the problem, and the Defense Authorization Act of 2005 required a new policy be put in place by January 1.

The policy is a series of very brief "directive-type memoranda" for the Secretaries of the military services from the Under Secretary of Defense for Personnel and Readiness. "Overall, the policy emphasizes that sexual assault harms military readiness, that education about sexual assault policy needs to be increased and repeated, and that improvements in response to sexual assaults are necessary to make victims more willing to report assaults," Gilberd notes. "Unfortunately," she added "analysis of the issues is shallow, and the plans for addressing them are limited."

Commands can reject the complaints if they decide they aren't credible, and there is limited protection against retaliation against the women who come forward, according to Gilberd. "People who report assaults still face command disbelief, illegal efforts to protect the assaulters, informal harassment from assaulters, their friends or the command itself," she said.

But most shameful is Sanchez's cover-up of the dehydration deaths of women that occurred in Iraq. Sanchez is no stranger to outrageous military orders. He was heavily involved in the torture scandal that surfaced at Abu Ghraib. Sanchez approved the use of unmuzzled dogs and the insertion of prisoners head-first into sleeping bags after which they are tied with an electrical cord and their are mouths covered. At least one person died as the result of the sleeping bag technique. Karpinski charges that Sanchez attempted to hide the torture after the hideous photographs became public.

Sanchez reportedly plans to retire soon, according to an article in the International Herald Tribune earlier this month. But Rumsfeld recently considered elevating the 3-star general to a 4-star. The Tribune also reported that Brig. Gen. Vincent Brooks, the Army's chief spokesman, said in an email message, "The Army leaders do have confidence in LTG Sanchez."
 
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i cant believe that shit, girls gettin raped in the military.
if i talk bad to someone higher than me i get in trouble, how the fuck people gettin away with rapin a bitch
 
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This was obviously a problem solving test for them, they failed.

Some possible solutions:

-You're in the military.. Carry a weapon to piss
-piss in the barracks
-go in groups.
 

HIM

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F--ked up..cover up's? No surprise there..of course they dont want this stuff to leak to the public, just like the other foul s--t the military does to people in other countries(not the "terrorists")...And they wonder why there is no TRUE Patriotism in this country...But I do feel for the guys, because they want some pussy, but thats not the way to go about getting it...those females need to be protected from their own fellow soldiers and the military needs to do whatever it takes to make sure that happens(as long as they are going to allow women to join)..

I am interested in knowing how many females soldiers died because of this..
 
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This was obviously a problem solving test for them, they failed.

Some possible solutions:

-You're in the military.. Carry a weapon to piss
-piss in the barracks
-go in groups.
Blaming women for being raped - the highest form of homoerotic masturbation

Yea man the bitch deserved it ha ha ha

Pack a glock next time whore

The words of buff bodybuilder named Vinny who sticks shit in his ass
 
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This is why woman should not be in the military..at least one. What are they suppose to provide big lights for insurgents to target with mortars. another question is how many girls got raped? That shit does not get swept under the rug. If you been in the military for 18 years and a bitch been in 2 months and she walks by and hears you and someone using profanity that is called sexual harassment, more then one incident and they could give you the boot..if she walks by your desk or work area and there is a sports illustrated bikiny edition..that could be sexual harassment. The military takes that shit serious especialy after the tailhook situation in the late 80's. Im not defending rapist and there are rapists pedophiles in all walks of life. The military is not gonna turn the cheek on shit like this, unless it happens at a high level and not many know....even then not as a rule.
Did you know woman have to do less push ups and sit ups, and get longer to run during physical tests. Yet they want to be equal...thats why there are alot of shit bag females who make rank and change command policies etc etc....Dont get me wrong their are many woman who make great Marines Soldiers, Sailors. I remeber this one bitch was drinkin with us It was me my boy and her and her friend ..me and her friend was under covers and light was off...she was kissing my boy..I was there the whole time..next day she was embarrased and to the girl I was with she was saying he was trying to rape her....My boy told her bitch you say anything ill kill you....if she would have said something..regardless of outcome it could effect his career.Not to mention all the bullshit
 
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http://www.bushcommission.org/


Here is your "International Commission of Inquiry On Crimes Against Humanity Committed by the Bush Administration"

I know there's a lot of marks in this country, but damn. God damn.


HIM said:
F--ked up..cover up's? No surprise there..of course they dont want this stuff to leak to the public, just like the other foul s--t the military does to people in other countries(not the "terrorists")...And they wonder why there is no TRUE Patriotism in this country...But I do feel for the guys, because they want some pussy, but thats not the way to go about getting it...those females need to be protected from their own fellow soldiers and the military needs to do whatever it takes to make sure that happens(as long as they are going to allow women to join)..

I am interested in knowing how many females soldiers died because of this..
I feel sorry for you, bro. Not enough hours in the day to enlighten people like you. One day, you'll understand. It'll click. And everything will be better. I promise.
 

HIM

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http://www.bushcommission.org/


Here is your "International Commission of Inquiry On Crimes Against Humanity Committed by the Bush Administration"

I know there's a lot of marks in this country, but damn. God damn.




I feel sorry for you, bro. Not enough hours in the day to enlighten people like you. One day, you'll understand. It'll click. And everything will be better. I promise.
Dont feel sorry for me bro...educate me..I am open..I may have pre-judged without knowing all the facts, but I am man enough to admit that and willing to be educated..enlighten me on this situation...I know the military isnt perfect, and I would be a fool to act like there has never been any cover ups...I hope you arent trying to suggest that the military doesnt have cover-ups...but if you choose not to educate me then Its coo...my opinion was stemmed from that situation about female soldiers..if its something I am missing then let me know...
 
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Normally I wouldn't comment on something like this, but today I'm feeling kind of froggy, so here goes...

First off some people in this country still believe that women shouldn't even be in the military. That being said women who do go into the military should know the risk. Secondly if a women is afraid of going to take a piss then going in groups is a good idea and if this doesn't work then just go right outside the barracks. If the women is going to get raped anyways at least be in hear shot of other women who know the situation....