man all i gotta say is mess has set a standard for years on how to bring quality EVERYTHING when it comes to artist devloping and marketing themselves. just because your independent doesnt mean you market and develop yourself that way...you have to give in order to recieve..invest in yourself. start investing in yourself, no wack album covers...no cheap ass videos...no weak ass rhymes and beats...no cheesy ass websites and myspaces....take pride in yourself and develop yourself and your brand. do you but look at the succesful ones and see how there setting themselves apart so they can be seen and heard. good job mess!!!! once again you have found a way yo keep the BAY ALIVE AND THRIVING... through putting out QUALITY SHIT!!!!!!!! the site is way beyond my expectaions, but then again mess has yet to let me down!!!!