SHITTY RAPPERS?????

[INCHEZ]

here are my questions....

Where do you draw the line when a shitty rapper wants to get down on one of your tracks?

Would you sell your beats to the buyer, regardless of how bad they rap?

and for those in the game......
How far into your career did you rid yourself of wack rappers...... (meaning, when your music was finally sawed after by talented artists, and you did'nt have to hustle your beat, you were finally on the demand)

 

[Tall T]

good question... i dont make beats, but im constantly gettin wack ass rappers who either have no flow to a beat or no lyrics tryin to get me on a track... normally i always say yes too jus cuz im pretty much a nobody still myself but i know i got more talent than these clowns!... by the way, producers get @ me i need hot beats! Lol

 

[Vince V.]

You're not gonna like everyone you do tracks for, that's a fact. Some artists may even have a decent following that you think are wack.
If you feel like passing on cash because so and so won't do the beat justice thats totally on you to decide. I've had tracks I thought were really good that nobody ever bought. Too many opinions and ego's and politics in this game. It all comes down to dollars. Do you want it or not?

A way to start is to categorize your beats. Don't give a "shitty rapper" a beat you think Jay Z might want. Give them the choice of 20 minute specials! Now on the other hand, if you don't have Jay Z worthy tracks, then maybe you should check yourself. I've heard plenty of wack beat guys that think they're the shit because they chopped up a sample and put some drums on it.

That's the problem with the music industry. Everyone thinks they're the shit!
Everyone wants to shine, and everyone wants a piece of your money!
Once you're good and in demand, then comes the "so now your too good to fuck wit me?" speeches.

I stay money motivated and don't let small bucks get in the way of big possibilities. You can always make another beat!

 

[Sick Wid It]

This isn't really limited to rappers. It's not necessarily a good idea to pass on every offer you get from artists you think are wack. If I would have done that, I would have lost out on a lot of money and not did songs that turned out to be very successful, or on very successful projects.

If you really care then my advice would be don't just consider the artist, think about things like do they have a following, will it be properly promoted (as best you can tell), are there any other quality names attached to the project.

At the end of the day if you want to be successful then you have to be about business, not personal feelings. If you're trying to sell your beats for profit, why would you be picky with who your clients are? McDonald's doesn't care who buys their Big Mac's...

 

[CcytzO_Loc]

if your name aint big then i say take every oppurtunity you can to promote yourself....if they wacc but payin you then who cares.......that beat can make money off a wacc rapper or sit there and collect no funds wit no rapper....its on you.....same wit rapping...ill rap on any rappers shit and its even better if im shittin on them in thier song.....you can work your way up to chargin cats this way.......

now its a different story when your workin on your own project......i am piccy about who im gonna let be on my album....not jus cuz of skill either...i know plenty of freestyle rappers who can bust in front of a crowd or battle anyone but cant write songs or record in the booth very well...or if they do write somethin tight its not goin along wit the song your tryin to create.....i have a certain perspective i want out of my album and if you cant get on that vibe then it dont matter what skills or money you got.....you aint gettin on the project......

 

[GHP]

I see it like this I think there are plenty of wack rappers out there that end up blowing up outta nowhere from a one hit wonder. Laffy Taffy Guys, DFB, etc etc who knows you might blow up offa a cat like that. I say if they have paper and they aren't completly corny and sell it to them, even still. Fuck it you spent all the money on equipment and spend all the time making tracks and shit. Its in your best interest to try to capitolize off of your investment by any means especially if you don't have a resume

 

[INCHEZ]

I see it like this I think there are plenty of wack rappers out there that end up blowing up outta nowhere from a one hit wonder. Laffy Taffy Guys, DFB, etc etc who knows you might blow up offa a cat like that. I say if they have paper and they aren't completly corny and sell it to them, even still. Fuck it you spent all the money on equipment and spend all the time making tracks and shit. Its in your best interest to try to capitolize off of your investment by any means especially if you don't have a resume

Well put....

 

[GHP]

another thing, i can think of countless tapes and cds i bought and kept in steady rotation because they had tight beats but the rappers wern't all that great, Pizzo-Heater Man comes to mind. Alot of people don't hardly listen to the lyrics alot of the time anyways its all about the beat and the hook to most of the zombies out there

Plus one of those nobodys might drop some big loot for a Yukmouth or an E-40 verse and put your beat over it, technically you can put that in your portfolio.

 

[siccness-user]

Well put....

last week i recorded the wackest rapper,

my friend, also a producer,

told me, "just tell these niggas to get the fuck out your studio"

"its only making you look bad"

u never gonna get any where with wack rappers...

ever since.. thats what i do

 

[8FIVE8]

when i do tracks with my producers they tell me if its wack or not. They actually work with me and tell me to change shit around. They tell me why i should say this instead of that etc. If u call urself a producer, then produce!!! Tell the artist right away how u want it to sound and all that. Gotta work with eachother. But if the mutherfucker is that wack then i dont know. I'm lucky though. My beatmakers/producers are way too honest with me, so i guess i got it good.

 

[HERESY]

Where do you draw the line when a shitty rapper wants to get down on one of your tracks?

You draw the line when he isn't paying you or it is your project.

Would you sell your beats to the buyer, regardless of how bad they rap?

Yes. I'll sell a beat to the devil if he wants to purchase one. Guess what people are gonna say when he or she comes weak? "The beat was tight but the lyrics suck", "That nigga shouldn't be allowed to rap over tight beats", "WHO DID THE BEAT, HOW MUCH DOES HE CHARGE"?

Years ago my brother took me out of the mindset I had and I was attached to the music I made. Ever since he broke it down to me it's only PRODUCT to be sold, I can make more music, and I shouldn't become attached to it. Ever since then I slang beats, engineer, remove myself FAR FROM the project, and go about my business.

and props to 8five8. You have good producers, and thats what producers should do.