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Saigon "Yardfather Volume 1" CD [$10] Abandoned Nation
Saigon "Yardfather Volume II: On The Go Back" CD [$10] Abandoned Nation
Saigon "Warning Shots" CD [$13] Sure Shot (SSR9009)
Saigon "Abandoned Nation" CD [$6] Shadyville
all @ www.sandboxautomatic.com
his official album is coming out this year called "Dear Black America"
Saigon "Yardfather Volume II: On The Go Back" CD [$10] Abandoned Nation
Saigon "Warning Shots" CD [$13] Sure Shot (SSR9009)
Saigon "Abandoned Nation" CD [$6] Shadyville
all @ www.sandboxautomatic.com
his official album is coming out this year called "Dear Black America"
Yup IMO he's by far the best up and comer comin out the east. If you can get your hands on any of the albums that jaytrees put up swoop them up. "Warning Shots" will prolly be the easiest to find. Also try DLin these tracks "Out There" "All I Know" Breathe Through The Years" "True Story" "No Idea" "Shok TV" "What Am I Gonna Do" also any of his Drama King Freestyles.
Also I thought his new album was gonna be called "Greatest Story Never Told" but he could of changed that to "Dear Black America".
From last months XXL
Ive been on some type of probation, parole or in prison since I was 13. Once you in the system, they keep your record until they clear your criminal history. If you're 13 and you have an assault charge, then when your're 16 and you catch another [case] and you're legal, [they take this into account when] they give you a pre-sentencing investagation. If the pre-sentencing report shows that you've had a [previous] assault, it doesnt really look good for you. They looking at you like, Okay, you've been acting this way since you were young. They dont look at the fact that you might've turned your life around. They just look at whats on that paper, and that's how they judge you. That's the system. It's designed to keep us there and keep us down.
I had a fight in [junior high] school. That was my very first time in jail. I went to youth jail for a year. I came back home and got into some more shit. They sent me to Rickers Island. Then I did five years in Napanoch [Eastern Correctional Facility]. I shot two people. That was my last bid, the long one. I came home with years of parole left. I couldnt leave the state of New York. I had to get permission to go to New Jersey.
A lot of people glorify jail. Its not a celebration or a rite of passage but something [that's] destroying us... By putting music videos out with Megan Good visiting [you in jail], young kids think jail's not that bad. That's not reality. Reality is a grown man looking up your anal cavity. They don't show images of people getting stabbed, getting killed and the corrections officerskilling people. They just show one image. My friend Bolo, who is my age and has a 45-years-to-life, started fucking with homos. I knew him from the street and Im like, "This aint you. You're not gay." He's like, "Yo dawg, I don't give a fuck what other people think of me, I'm not living for nobody. My life is basically [over]." When you look at shit from that perspective, what could you say?
Being in jail is like being dead. People who should care disappear out your life. Out of sight, out of mind. My family [stayed in touch with me]. My friends didn't. My friend Ab was the only onewho sent me tapes. The rest of them, they were fake. And that's another thing they dont show in the videos.
I went back [to jail] for a little while [after gaining some acclaim as a rapper]. My friends got me out, but I was doing my thing and I caught a new case. It's so easy once you're on parole. It was a [third-degree] assault, which is just a regular fistfight. So if I get into a regular fistfight, which for you might be a slap on the wrists and court one time, they'll send me back to jail for 18 months. Because I'm on parole, they look at everything differently. That's why I call it a revolving door.
I got through [my time] by writing rhymes, working out and just minding my business. I did a long time in jail. In the beginning of my bid, I did all the wild and crazy shit, but by the middle of it I smartened up. I started to read and see other people my age in there who have 45-years-to-life. I got off parole, so Im just now feeling freedom [for the first time] in 14 years. Im still not feeling like Im totally free, but I feel like Im freer than I was, be-cause Im able to do anything without people telling me what time to come in the house orwhat time to lay my head downand what time to do everything else.
Ive been on some type of probation, parole or in prison since I was 13. Once you in the system, they keep your record until they clear your criminal history. If you're 13 and you have an assault charge, then when your're 16 and you catch another [case] and you're legal, [they take this into account when] they give you a pre-sentencing investagation. If the pre-sentencing report shows that you've had a [previous] assault, it doesnt really look good for you. They looking at you like, Okay, you've been acting this way since you were young. They dont look at the fact that you might've turned your life around. They just look at whats on that paper, and that's how they judge you. That's the system. It's designed to keep us there and keep us down.
I had a fight in [junior high] school. That was my very first time in jail. I went to youth jail for a year. I came back home and got into some more shit. They sent me to Rickers Island. Then I did five years in Napanoch [Eastern Correctional Facility]. I shot two people. That was my last bid, the long one. I came home with years of parole left. I couldnt leave the state of New York. I had to get permission to go to New Jersey.
A lot of people glorify jail. Its not a celebration or a rite of passage but something [that's] destroying us... By putting music videos out with Megan Good visiting [you in jail], young kids think jail's not that bad. That's not reality. Reality is a grown man looking up your anal cavity. They don't show images of people getting stabbed, getting killed and the corrections officerskilling people. They just show one image. My friend Bolo, who is my age and has a 45-years-to-life, started fucking with homos. I knew him from the street and Im like, "This aint you. You're not gay." He's like, "Yo dawg, I don't give a fuck what other people think of me, I'm not living for nobody. My life is basically [over]." When you look at shit from that perspective, what could you say?
Being in jail is like being dead. People who should care disappear out your life. Out of sight, out of mind. My family [stayed in touch with me]. My friends didn't. My friend Ab was the only onewho sent me tapes. The rest of them, they were fake. And that's another thing they dont show in the videos.
I went back [to jail] for a little while [after gaining some acclaim as a rapper]. My friends got me out, but I was doing my thing and I caught a new case. It's so easy once you're on parole. It was a [third-degree] assault, which is just a regular fistfight. So if I get into a regular fistfight, which for you might be a slap on the wrists and court one time, they'll send me back to jail for 18 months. Because I'm on parole, they look at everything differently. That's why I call it a revolving door.
I got through [my time] by writing rhymes, working out and just minding my business. I did a long time in jail. In the beginning of my bid, I did all the wild and crazy shit, but by the middle of it I smartened up. I started to read and see other people my age in there who have 45-years-to-life. I got off parole, so Im just now feeling freedom [for the first time] in 14 years. Im still not feeling like Im totally free, but I feel like Im freer than I was, be-cause Im able to do anything without people telling me what time to come in the house orwhat time to lay my head downand what time to do everything else.
From MTV .com
A lot of MCs decide they want to go pro in the rap game during a moment of blinding, burning urgency. It's the desire to get known now, to get what's yours and maybe even take a bit of someone else's. And when it strikes, you've got to get up and get going.
Unless you're Saigon. When inspiration struck him, he really couldn't get up or go anywhere. Because he was in prison for shooting a kid at a party.
It was the third time he'd been locked up for a shooting-related incident (when he was in eighth grade, he shot a guy who'd been spending time with his then-girlfriend, and about a year and a half later he shot two men outside a nightclub). He freely admits he was already heading down the path to self-ruination, until that one fateful night, in his jail cell, when inspiration struck.
"I was 16 years old, locked up with all these dudes who were urban legends in the 'hood. You get to meet these dudes and I'd be like, 'Damn your name rings so many bells in the 'hood,' " Saigon says. "But these dudes were like, 'Man, you think I care about that? I wanna go home.' This is what really changed my life, when I got around these dudes who I was trying to be like and they was like, 'Man, if I could do it all again I don't think I could care about a reputation.' "
It was then that Saigon — real name Brian Carenard — decided to make rapping his life. He'd been involved in breaking and DJing since he was 9, and got into the lyrical side of things a few years later. But it had never been more than a hobby; now he decided to make it his life. So he took the stage "professionally" for the first time during a prison talent show.
"There's these dudes onstage rapping, and they was good — real good — and I'm in the crowd and I say, 'These dudes is a'ight,' " Saigon laughs. "So somebody heard me and the say, 'Oh, you think you're better? ... Then get up here.' So I'm sitting there thinking of rhymes in my head and I'm like, 'What can I say? This is a prisoner crowd.'
"So there's this one song that I used to do, it ain't even a real song, it was called 'F Police.' So I'm like, 'Hmm, that's what I could do. That always got the party crunk,' " he continues. "So the curtains open and I'm like, 'Yeah, yeah, check it out to all my peoples in the house, let me hear you say "F police." ' It was pandemonium, dudes was jumpin' on their chairs and then I just see the curtains close. I'm like, 'What happened?' The next thing I know, police rushed me, strip searched me, threw me in a box, threw me in the hole. And I'm like, 'What did I do? I'm performing at a talent show.' "
Things weren't going much better for Saigon after he got out of prison. He'd made the rounds on the mixtape circuit and made plenty of fans with his street-weary, conscious rap. But he was having a hard time making it to the big leagues until a couple of chance meetings with a pair of producers: celebrity DJ Mark Ronson (see "Ghostface Killah, Nate Dogg Help DJ Mark Ronson Say 'Ooh Wee' "), who started working on tracks with Saigon, and then with über-hitmaker Just Blaze, who took him under his wing.
Working with Blaze, he's already made a couple of classic cuts, including the linguistically charged "Letter P" and "Color Purple," which calls for an end to the Bloods/Crips gang feud. And with a long-awaited proper debut, Greatest Story Never Told, due later this year, Saigon is poised to truly make it huge.
But record sales are just numbers. And after doing hard time on (and off) the streets, Saigon would prefer to be known as a whole lot more than just the rap game's finest.
"I want to be known as somebody who was born in the '70s, saw the problems on the streets in the '80s, got caught up in those problems in the '90s, and in the 2000s, he started to make a solution to that problem," he says. "If there's problems out there, I'm gonna try to solve them all."
A lot of MCs decide they want to go pro in the rap game during a moment of blinding, burning urgency. It's the desire to get known now, to get what's yours and maybe even take a bit of someone else's. And when it strikes, you've got to get up and get going.
Unless you're Saigon. When inspiration struck him, he really couldn't get up or go anywhere. Because he was in prison for shooting a kid at a party.
It was the third time he'd been locked up for a shooting-related incident (when he was in eighth grade, he shot a guy who'd been spending time with his then-girlfriend, and about a year and a half later he shot two men outside a nightclub). He freely admits he was already heading down the path to self-ruination, until that one fateful night, in his jail cell, when inspiration struck.
"I was 16 years old, locked up with all these dudes who were urban legends in the 'hood. You get to meet these dudes and I'd be like, 'Damn your name rings so many bells in the 'hood,' " Saigon says. "But these dudes were like, 'Man, you think I care about that? I wanna go home.' This is what really changed my life, when I got around these dudes who I was trying to be like and they was like, 'Man, if I could do it all again I don't think I could care about a reputation.' "
It was then that Saigon — real name Brian Carenard — decided to make rapping his life. He'd been involved in breaking and DJing since he was 9, and got into the lyrical side of things a few years later. But it had never been more than a hobby; now he decided to make it his life. So he took the stage "professionally" for the first time during a prison talent show.
"There's these dudes onstage rapping, and they was good — real good — and I'm in the crowd and I say, 'These dudes is a'ight,' " Saigon laughs. "So somebody heard me and the say, 'Oh, you think you're better? ... Then get up here.' So I'm sitting there thinking of rhymes in my head and I'm like, 'What can I say? This is a prisoner crowd.'
"So there's this one song that I used to do, it ain't even a real song, it was called 'F Police.' So I'm like, 'Hmm, that's what I could do. That always got the party crunk,' " he continues. "So the curtains open and I'm like, 'Yeah, yeah, check it out to all my peoples in the house, let me hear you say "F police." ' It was pandemonium, dudes was jumpin' on their chairs and then I just see the curtains close. I'm like, 'What happened?' The next thing I know, police rushed me, strip searched me, threw me in a box, threw me in the hole. And I'm like, 'What did I do? I'm performing at a talent show.' "
Things weren't going much better for Saigon after he got out of prison. He'd made the rounds on the mixtape circuit and made plenty of fans with his street-weary, conscious rap. But he was having a hard time making it to the big leagues until a couple of chance meetings with a pair of producers: celebrity DJ Mark Ronson (see "Ghostface Killah, Nate Dogg Help DJ Mark Ronson Say 'Ooh Wee' "), who started working on tracks with Saigon, and then with über-hitmaker Just Blaze, who took him under his wing.
Working with Blaze, he's already made a couple of classic cuts, including the linguistically charged "Letter P" and "Color Purple," which calls for an end to the Bloods/Crips gang feud. And with a long-awaited proper debut, Greatest Story Never Told, due later this year, Saigon is poised to truly make it huge.
But record sales are just numbers. And after doing hard time on (and off) the streets, Saigon would prefer to be known as a whole lot more than just the rap game's finest.
"I want to be known as somebody who was born in the '70s, saw the problems on the streets in the '80s, got caught up in those problems in the '90s, and in the 2000s, he started to make a solution to that problem," he says. "If there's problems out there, I'm gonna try to solve them all."
I have been a fan of Saigons for awhile now. Dude got a ton of skills. I got all the albums Jaytrees listed and they are all worth the money.
I am really feeling alot of these up and coming East Coast MC's, but the really dope ones IMO are,
Saigon
Papoose
Jae Millz
JR Writer
Hell Rell
Grafh
Illa Ghee
Nashawn
J-Hood
Un Kasa
All of them got lots of skills and if you haven't heard their music you should check them out.
Nuttkace
I am really feeling alot of these up and coming East Coast MC's, but the really dope ones IMO are,
Saigon
Papoose
Jae Millz
JR Writer
Hell Rell
Grafh
Illa Ghee
Nashawn
J-Hood
Un Kasa
All of them got lots of skills and if you haven't heard their music you should check them out.
Nuttkace
