SADDAM, UDAY, QUSAY.
This thread is intended to enlighten the GOM of what it is we’re fighting against. There have been articles posted on this website, many of which are quite lengthy and I know that some of you don’t have all the time in the world to read through every single one of them, as they can be very time consuming. However, I strongly encourage you to read through this entire thread while I pull the sheets off these filthy animals. If you think the people of the United States have been brainwashed into believing the invasion of Iraq was the right thing to do, then you must think again and look at it from another side. I urge you, Anti-American or not, to read through this thread.
If I didn’t write it, it will be in quotes (except for the interview). Some of these articles are old, some are new. You may have read them before and maybe you haven’t, in any case, I present them (again) before you.
Here are some things you will learn when you read through this thread and the articles provided therein.
1. Saddam has, for many years, tortured and killed thousands of his own citizens (many of them by his own hands, almost all of them by his own command). These tortures and killings were not uncommon or rarely reported incidents, but occurrences that took place systematically.
2. When they used bullets to kill the victim, they would bring the family down to look at the body and pay $5 per bullet they used to kill their loved one.
3. If you speak out against Saddam, (at least) your tongue will be amputated.
4. There have been several torture chambers uncovered in Iraq (the U.S. and Britain bombed as many of them that were found).
5. The sporting world including the Olympic team in Iraq has diminished because players were tortured and killed for losing.
6. Being Muslim was a suitable crime for punishment.
7. Saddam and his family, when torturing their victims, often force their families to watch against their own will. Similarly, the victims are forced to watch as their wives are raped.
8. If you are arrested for stealing, you can pay $1,600 not be tortured, and double that for a murder charge.
9. If you are the wife of a “criminal” then you can be arrested, raped and beaten while your husband watches.
10. There is no required level of crime or action in order to receive torture, any “crime” that they see fit is punishable. Even losing a football game.
11. Variations of torture consist of, execution, hanging, amputation of tongue as well as various other limbs, electric shock, captivity, solitary confinement (for years upon end), rape, repetitive beating by hand and weaponry, burning, having your family members tortured and killed in front of you, ripping off fingers and toe nails, deadly chemical exposure, hot irons and scolding water to the body, stabbing, caned feet (very common by Uday). Your worst imagination can not possibly think of the many ways these “leaders” tortured and killed their own people, I can not stress this enough, thousands upon thousands of civilians have been viciously murdered in cold blood.
12. There is no justice system in Iraq.
13. Many of the people who “support” Saddam have no idea of what goes on behind the curtains; they are blind to the facts and follow a ghost. His military fights for him (there have been several reports of killings and torture of his own military for refusing to fight for him). The people of Iraq are scared to oppose him, they are afraid of what might happen if they stop following him.
14. Qusay ordered the death of over 2,000 prison inmates by way of a bullet to the head, a human size shredder, or a hanging hall. This decision came when they found their prisons were getting overpopulated.
In recent news, video footage has surfaced showing the torture of civilian Iraqi’s. These actions involved the breaking of wrists with a metal rod, cutting off tongues, and dropping one man from a building. If you would like to watch this video footage, then check out the source. http://www.fox21.com/Global/story.asp?S=1504387 (10/30/03)
Since the fall of the regime, civilians and victims have been coming forward with countless stories of terror. For years these victims kept to themselves in fear of future torture and death, but with the collapse of the Baath party, people have begun to speak.
Saddam was never elected into office; it was his close ties with the military and rulers of the country that landed him a position in office. Saddam has been ruling Iraq for 23 years and brought forth seemingly endless torture, death, propaganda, and poverty. The only people who fought for Saddam were his family and those who feared him. The rest of the country either didn’t know, or didn’t care. The people of Iraq didn’t have a voice, they had no right to choose, only to live their life the way Saddam saw fit, and the only other alternative was punishment. Saddam’s dictatorship lead to the atrocious murder of an enormous amount of human lives, more so to the extent that war crimes are being sought against him. From the torture of thousands of his own civilians, to the gassing of 5,000 Kurds (all dead) in a single day, to invading countries based on their own (Iraq’s) financial instability in the oil industry, Saddam, Qusay, and Uday have been destroying their own country for decades with no respect for human life. Now they are suffering the consequences of their actions for the years of hell they put the people of their country through.
The following is a list of crimes Saddam could face. Provided by a Government website.
“Saddam Hussein seized power in 1979. The list of war crimes and crimes against humanity committed by Saddam Hussein and his regime is a long one. It includes:
The use of poison gas and other war crimes against Iran and the Iranian people during the 1980-88 Iran-Iraq war. Iraq summarily executed thousands of Iranian prisoners of war as a matter of policy.
The "Anfal" campaign in the late 1980's against the Iraqi Kurds, including the use of poison gas on cities. In one of the worst single mass killings in recent history, Iraq dropped chemical weapons on Halabja in 1988, in which as many as 5,000 people — mostly civilians — were killed.
Crimes against humanity and war crimes arising out of Iraq's 1990-91 invasion and occupation of Kuwait.
Crimes against humanity and possibly genocide against Iraqi Kurds in northern Iraq. This includes the destruction of over 3,000 villages. The Iraqi government's campaign of forced deportations of Kurdish and Turkomen families to southern Iraq has created approximately 900,000 internally displaced citizens throughout the country.
Crimes against humanity and possibly genocide against Marsh Arabs and Shi'a Arabs in southern Iraq. Entire populations of villages have been forcibly expelled. Government forces have burned their houses and fields, demolished houses with bulldozers, and undertaken a deliberate campaign to drain and poison the marshes. Thousands of civilians have been summarily executed.
Possible crimes against humanity for killings, ostensibly against political opponents, within Iraq.”
http://usinfo.state.gov/regional/nea/iraq/iraq99h.htm
This thread is intended to enlighten the GOM of what it is we’re fighting against. There have been articles posted on this website, many of which are quite lengthy and I know that some of you don’t have all the time in the world to read through every single one of them, as they can be very time consuming. However, I strongly encourage you to read through this entire thread while I pull the sheets off these filthy animals. If you think the people of the United States have been brainwashed into believing the invasion of Iraq was the right thing to do, then you must think again and look at it from another side. I urge you, Anti-American or not, to read through this thread.
If I didn’t write it, it will be in quotes (except for the interview). Some of these articles are old, some are new. You may have read them before and maybe you haven’t, in any case, I present them (again) before you.
"A 31-year-old Kuwaiti woman, Asrar Qabandi, was captured by Iraqi secret police occupying her country in 1990 for "crimes," one of which included speaking with CNN on the phone. They beat her daily for two months, forcing her father to watch. In January 1991, on the eve of the American-led offensive, they smashed her skull and tore her body apart limb by limb. A plastic bag containing her body parts was left on the doorstep of her family's home.”
1. Saddam has, for many years, tortured and killed thousands of his own citizens (many of them by his own hands, almost all of them by his own command). These tortures and killings were not uncommon or rarely reported incidents, but occurrences that took place systematically.
2. When they used bullets to kill the victim, they would bring the family down to look at the body and pay $5 per bullet they used to kill their loved one.
3. If you speak out against Saddam, (at least) your tongue will be amputated.
4. There have been several torture chambers uncovered in Iraq (the U.S. and Britain bombed as many of them that were found).
5. The sporting world including the Olympic team in Iraq has diminished because players were tortured and killed for losing.
6. Being Muslim was a suitable crime for punishment.
7. Saddam and his family, when torturing their victims, often force their families to watch against their own will. Similarly, the victims are forced to watch as their wives are raped.
8. If you are arrested for stealing, you can pay $1,600 not be tortured, and double that for a murder charge.
9. If you are the wife of a “criminal” then you can be arrested, raped and beaten while your husband watches.
10. There is no required level of crime or action in order to receive torture, any “crime” that they see fit is punishable. Even losing a football game.
11. Variations of torture consist of, execution, hanging, amputation of tongue as well as various other limbs, electric shock, captivity, solitary confinement (for years upon end), rape, repetitive beating by hand and weaponry, burning, having your family members tortured and killed in front of you, ripping off fingers and toe nails, deadly chemical exposure, hot irons and scolding water to the body, stabbing, caned feet (very common by Uday). Your worst imagination can not possibly think of the many ways these “leaders” tortured and killed their own people, I can not stress this enough, thousands upon thousands of civilians have been viciously murdered in cold blood.
12. There is no justice system in Iraq.
13. Many of the people who “support” Saddam have no idea of what goes on behind the curtains; they are blind to the facts and follow a ghost. His military fights for him (there have been several reports of killings and torture of his own military for refusing to fight for him). The people of Iraq are scared to oppose him, they are afraid of what might happen if they stop following him.
14. Qusay ordered the death of over 2,000 prison inmates by way of a bullet to the head, a human size shredder, or a hanging hall. This decision came when they found their prisons were getting overpopulated.
In recent news, video footage has surfaced showing the torture of civilian Iraqi’s. These actions involved the breaking of wrists with a metal rod, cutting off tongues, and dropping one man from a building. If you would like to watch this video footage, then check out the source. http://www.fox21.com/Global/story.asp?S=1504387 (10/30/03)
Since the fall of the regime, civilians and victims have been coming forward with countless stories of terror. For years these victims kept to themselves in fear of future torture and death, but with the collapse of the Baath party, people have begun to speak.
Saddam was never elected into office; it was his close ties with the military and rulers of the country that landed him a position in office. Saddam has been ruling Iraq for 23 years and brought forth seemingly endless torture, death, propaganda, and poverty. The only people who fought for Saddam were his family and those who feared him. The rest of the country either didn’t know, or didn’t care. The people of Iraq didn’t have a voice, they had no right to choose, only to live their life the way Saddam saw fit, and the only other alternative was punishment. Saddam’s dictatorship lead to the atrocious murder of an enormous amount of human lives, more so to the extent that war crimes are being sought against him. From the torture of thousands of his own civilians, to the gassing of 5,000 Kurds (all dead) in a single day, to invading countries based on their own (Iraq’s) financial instability in the oil industry, Saddam, Qusay, and Uday have been destroying their own country for decades with no respect for human life. Now they are suffering the consequences of their actions for the years of hell they put the people of their country through.
The following is a list of crimes Saddam could face. Provided by a Government website.
“Saddam Hussein seized power in 1979. The list of war crimes and crimes against humanity committed by Saddam Hussein and his regime is a long one. It includes:
The use of poison gas and other war crimes against Iran and the Iranian people during the 1980-88 Iran-Iraq war. Iraq summarily executed thousands of Iranian prisoners of war as a matter of policy.
The "Anfal" campaign in the late 1980's against the Iraqi Kurds, including the use of poison gas on cities. In one of the worst single mass killings in recent history, Iraq dropped chemical weapons on Halabja in 1988, in which as many as 5,000 people — mostly civilians — were killed.
Crimes against humanity and war crimes arising out of Iraq's 1990-91 invasion and occupation of Kuwait.
Crimes against humanity and possibly genocide against Iraqi Kurds in northern Iraq. This includes the destruction of over 3,000 villages. The Iraqi government's campaign of forced deportations of Kurdish and Turkomen families to southern Iraq has created approximately 900,000 internally displaced citizens throughout the country.
Crimes against humanity and possibly genocide against Marsh Arabs and Shi'a Arabs in southern Iraq. Entire populations of villages have been forcibly expelled. Government forces have burned their houses and fields, demolished houses with bulldozers, and undertaken a deliberate campaign to drain and poison the marshes. Thousands of civilians have been summarily executed.
Possible crimes against humanity for killings, ostensibly against political opponents, within Iraq.”
http://usinfo.state.gov/regional/nea/iraq/iraq99h.htm