Reagan accomplishments

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1911
Ronald Reagan born Tampico Illinois

1964
Reagan's final starring film: “The Killers”

1967
Reagan becomes governor of California

Reagan cuts budget in California by 10%

Major cuts mental health system in California

Major cuts for the University of California and institutes tuition for the first time in history of the University system.

Begins state repression of anti-Vietnam War protests

1969
Sends armed National Guard to end student strike at the University of California, Berkeley.

1970
Reagan re-elected governor of California

Widespread cuts in state welfare

1973
Reagan defends Nixon during Watergate scandal

1981
Reagan sworn in as U.S. president

Reagan calls for deep budget cuts, primarily from Carter's "Great Society" programs to benefit the poor

Major recession and unemployment, while defense budget and nuclear development remain intact.

"We love your adherence to democratic principle, and to the democratic processes." in a toast of newly re-inaugurated President Ferdinand Marcos by George Bush

Reagan administration attempts to loosen Clean Air Act standards

White House acknowledges that Reagan believes Webber ruling, allowing unions and management to enter into affirmative action agreements voluntarily, should be overturned.

In PBS interview, Reagan argues that New Deal advocates espoused fascism.

Social policy: pro-school prayer, anti-abortion

Reagan doctrine supports Marcos in the Phillipines

El Salvador: El Mazote massacre: slaughter of 800 men, women, children.
70,000 eventually killed.

1982
U.S. Marines arrive in Lebanon

Reagan signs deal to grant tax-exempt status to racially segregated schools. (Bob Jones University, etc.)

Reagan comments that anti-nuclear proliferation demonstrators are supported by Communists

Commodity Credit Corp backs $1.5 billion loan to Iraq as Saddam arms

A coup brings Gen. Efraín Ríos Montt to power in Guatemala, and gives the Reagan administration the opportunity to increase military aid.


1983
10000 U.S. troops invade Granada

Unemployment soars

Reagan expands defense budget

Reagan reveals Space Defense Initiative (SDI), Star Wars

Benigno Aquino shot dead in the Phillipines: 1990, military officials convicted of his murder

Coup in Guatemala replaces Ríos Montt. The new President, Oscar Mejía Víctores, was trained by the U.S.
1983-1989
Reagan ignores AIDS epidemic

1984
Reagan publicly supports Contras in Nicaragua, claiming the Contras are freedom fighters

Reagan signs National Security Decision Directive 138

Congress outlaws direct or indirect support of Contras (2nd Boland Amendment, outlaws funds to C.I.A., defense or any intelligence agencies “supporting, directly or indirectly, military or paramilitary operations in Nicaragua by any nation, group, organization or individual."

U.S. spends $10 million to direct elections in El Salvador

1985
Reagan begins new term as president

Reagan Administration acknowledges “Reagan doctrine” of support for armed insurgencies against Soviet-backed governments in the “Third World”

Senate authorizes 38 million in 'non-military' aid to Contras

Approval of direct & indirect U.S.-Isreali military support of Iran against Iraq. Oliver North allowed control of arms sales to Iran

1986
1500 anti-tank missiles sent to Iran

Reagan seeks $100 million in aid to Contras

U.S. bombs Libya

North admits Iran weapons sales funding Contras, while Reagan signs bill banning arms sales to nations supporting 'terrorists'

Reagan denies weapons sales and their purposes to Iran

Iran-Contra connection investigated – revealing Reagan administration knowledge that weapons were exchanged for hostages and profits were diverted to Nicaraguan Contras

U.S. military support of Honduras soldiers against Nicaragua troops

Immigration Reform and Control Act passes

Reagan speech on South Africa - “constructive engagement”

1987
Reagan denies knowledge of Iran-Contra

Welfare cuts drop 442,000 families, food stamps ended to 1 million

Reagan publicly uses the word “AIDS” for the first time.

1988
Oliver North indicted

1989
Panama 1989-90 Troops, bombing Nationalist government ousted by 27,000 soldiers, leaders arrested, 2000+ killed.

The end of the Presidency
 
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Reagan's support for right-wing murderers, most famously in the Iran-Contra scandal; provision of weapons and military training for murderous dictatorships in Latin America (Argentina, Nicaragua, Honduras, Panama, El Salvador, Grenada, Southeast Asia, the middle east, and Africa; role in perpetuating apartheid in South Africa, unprecedented promotion of nuclear proliferation, his denial of funding the AIDS research, affront to women's rights; undercutting of environmental protections, perpetuation of racial segregation and discrimination, and gutting of social services are only a few of the events that mark the Reagan years as among the most corrupt and devastating in history. This is the Reagan that must not be forgotten.

Great fucking president.

 
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The world is like a ride at an amusement park. It goes up and down and round and round. It has thrills and chills and it's very brightly coloured and it's very loud and it's fun, for a while. Some people have been on the ride for a long time and they begin to question, is this real, or is this just a ride? And other people have remembered, and they come back to us, they say, "hey - don't worry, don't be afraid, ever, because, this is just a ride..." And we... kill those people. Ha ha "Shut him up." "We have a lot invested in this ride. Shut him up. Look at my furrows of worry. Look at my big bank account and my family. This just has to be real." Just a ride. But we always kill those good guys who try and tell us that, you ever notice that? And let the demons run amok. Jesus murdered; Martin Luther King mudered; Malcolm X murdered; Gandhi murdered; John Lennon murdered; Reagan.... wounded.
 
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I tend to think of Reagan in the way of what he did for me... I think about what he did for me besides triple the national debt, beat up on brown countries, sell weapons and arms to Iran AND Iraq (chemical/biological too), negotiate with terrorists, cut taxes for the rich and let loose all the crazy people in San Francisco that I have to give change to because they are mind fucked and drugged up and cant even function to eat or work properly. He ended the cold war though, arguably the soviet union would have collapsed under its own weight anyway but he sped it up with SDI and defense spending.

Thats what Reagan did for me.
I think hes pretty mediocre, definitely not in the worst of presidents but not an FDR or JFK or Lincoln or Wilson, or even Bill Clinton.
 
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tadou said:
LMAO @ Clinton.....come the fuck on.

All Clinton ever was was a lame duck who spooged on a dress.


Did you watch the Ashcroft's testimony on Tuesday?

It's sad when Clinton getting a blowjob and Janet Jackson showing a titty becomes the important issues.
 
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You can throw all that shit about Reagan on the net all you want. Here's a fact, and you can believe it or not, but it is a FACT!! The President Of The United States is a SPOKESMAN who takes the heat for EVERYTHING that goes wrong. The President of the U.S has ADVISORS that pretty much tell him what he SHOULD do. You think Bush said, "Drop those Bombs"?? NO!! Powell said, "I think we should drop those bombs and you need to declare war, GEORGE!!" George said, "OK"...

Same with Reagan, and Clinton, and everybody else. They have ADVISORS, the PRESIDENT isn't as powerful as you people think...it's the people AROUND the President that make shit crack!!
 
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^^^

You've got a good point as always Sydal!

There are a lot of people dissing presidents (Bush, Regan, Clinton, Nixon, or whoever) and I have my own reasons for not liking aspects of each of their administration decisions.....but that doesn't cloud or cover the fact that he is the president, and the president has access to such knowlege and information which they can't exactly leak to the public. I mean the way I think about it now, if he told everyone what the secret service was up to and the new information he recieved from his agents, then they would not be so secret anymore. There are obviously spies and sleeper agents that exist within the borders of the United States, who may look like ordinary people just like you and me but could use information that Bush has against the country! I mean it would completely undermine the entire concept of national security if the President told all!

I tried putting myself in Bush's shoes and now I am starting to see that the position of being President of the United States of America is a very tough position to fill indeed!
 
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^^^ Now that is where the personality conflict comes in. For example, if you take Bush and Clinton and put them in seperate rooms but fed them the same information from the same sources, the decision outcomes would be the same now wouldn't it!

Clinton would probably say, "no that would be bad and I want to have peace," while Bush would say "fuck that, that is whack, I want to blow them up." Of course they should take the heat, but you also have to consider the kinds of pressure they have from their cabinet. After all the president just approves of what the cabinet and the senators put in his ear!
 
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Tadou...if all Senators read every single bill they voted in in their entirety, they would never eat or sleep. As a matter of fact, it is a physical impossibility that every senator in the white house can pour over ever single piece of legislation they vote on.

The process in a post 9/11 environment is this; they trust that if the "president" backs it, it must be a good bill. How could an American Senator vote against something called the Patriot Act? The entire Republican party would attack them as un-American, and thus their constituency would be eliminated.
 
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You're right, there is no way in hell Bush could type out anything, being that he is the intellectual equivalent of Blue from Blue's Clues. For the record, I don't have many major issues with the Patriot Act....which is perhaps somewhere most GOM posters will disagree with me. Indefinite detentions..yes, I have a problem with that...but who the fuck has a problem with increased surveillance capabilities? What are they gonna do, eavesdrop on your conversation with Aunt Thelma about how your sister is a slut and had another kid?

In any case, Congress has proved itself secondary to the president, since whichever party the president is allied with will have his back. Thus, it is not "president" and "congress"...it is "president & party" vs. "remaining dissenters". On paper, congress has more power than the president, but the unfortunate reality of American politics is that party identity and goals transcend all other considerations.
 
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In times of stressed freedom, people make decisions they normally wouldn't make. Like a mother jumping away from an oncoming car, leaving her baby's stroller in the road - it was an involuntary action to move out of the way... she's still gonna regret her baby becoming a pancake. So what if they voted one way, once the bill was in effect, they noticed how poor a decision they made. If you aren't going to let people correct their mistakes, than you might as well give up on the human race as a whole, I pretty much have.
 
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tadou said:
I think the main problem at issue is, Democrats feeling helpless instead of standing up and being counted...setting a BAD impression for other Dems. Who cares if a bill will pass 55-45? BE COUNTED....Who cares if it will pass 60-40? BE COUNTED. But all these 90% votes...85% votes...then Dems BITCHING after the fact about how its a horrible bill......thats just some greasy ass shit.

On top of all, i'm sick of hearing "Bush did this" and "Bush wants do that", when things are passing by 30 vote margins in the Senate and hundreds of votes in the House, BEYOND party lines.
Yet the political power wielded by Bu$hCo + Neil Cavuto + the Washington Post + the Elephants > Any 2 or 3 parties combined. If every Dem and Independant opposed Bush they would still lose. Politicians in our system are not out for fundamentals or ideals..they are out for re-election and personal survival. Read up some Fareed Zakaria...the "plus democratization" of American politics insures that Congresspeople now pour over gallop polls and statistics rather than rely on their party to back them while making unpopular decisions.

And believe me...Bush + Republicans et al would NOT have the political power they do had 9/11 never happened. The fear of Terrorism and the Nuclear Age has prompted a shift to the right among all American sectors...lower, middle, and upper class...even among "minorities" such as yourself, Carlton.

You can scrap that whole "poor Democrats" thing, because I and 99 percent of the Anti-Bushers on this board give 2 fucks about the Democrats. Seriously. Fuck the democratic party from physicality to ideology. The absolute fuck-ups of the Republicans/Bush necessitate some sort of change, thus I myself am forced to pick from the lesser of the two evils. Does Nader have a chance of winning? No, unfortunately, thus I vote for Kerry, even if he "threw away his medals". :O

Bush's party, strategies, and ideology are rooted in obsolete, racist, puerile, simplistic, and unworkable theory. If we continue to allow a man who is a mentally deficient failure to run our country, 9/11 (*GASP*) will look like a peaceful alternative to the utter chaos and destruction America will see. If not one or two years from now, than five or ten. If the last global empire is headed by a foolhardy reactionary like Bush, or any successor in shape or form congruent with his policies, we are all fucking doomed. I salute you, Carlton, for continuing to fight the great battle against logic, reason, common sense, and self-preservation. Like a Black Nazi, the reality of your farce must stare you in the face daily.
 
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how was clinton able to get the country out of deficit for those few years?
losing the house and the senate under the leadership of Newt. and being afraid that he would lose the white house to dole he went along with Newt G. and passed a shitload of conservative plans